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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2015, 01:57:11 PM »
In all seriousness I think someone like elon musk will figure out how to desalinate the pacific before it gets too bad.

They are already building desalination plants along the coast, where they already have the rights. There will be fights with the coastal commission and envirolibs to get more built. The money for the bullet train to nowhere should be used to build one every 20 miles along the coast.

It would be a lot more cost effective to just import more water from Canada.

Just try and get a pipeline built across washington and oregon. impossible.

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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2015, 01:58:35 PM »
In all seriousness I think someone like elon musk will figure out how to desalinate the pacific before it gets too bad.

They are already building desalination plants along the coast, where they already have the rights. There will be fights with the coastal commission and envirolibs to get more built. The money for the bullet train to nowhere should be used to build one every 20 miles along the coast.

Who is building them?
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2015, 01:58:43 PM »
In all seriousness I think someone like elon musk will figure out how to desalinate the pacific before it gets too bad.

They are already building desalination plants along the coast, where they already have the rights. There will be fights with the coastal commission and envirolibs to get more built. The money for the bullet train to nowhere should be used to build one every 20 miles along the coast.

desalination is nowhere close to cost effective for anything but drinking water (where there are no reasonable alternatives).  california has plenty of drinking water.
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2015, 02:01:49 PM »
The podcast I mentioned discussed desalination too, as did another podcast I listened to last week(Stuff you should know).  They were talking about how much brine is left over from the process and how it is pretty harmful to dump back in the ocean without either spreading it out a bunch or going quite a ways off shore.  Also, it requires a lot of either pressure or heat.  Like a ton.  Supposedly there is a latest tech type plant being built named the Posideon right now in CA and CA will base a lot of their forward plans on how efficient and productive it is.  Kinda an all-in type bet, supposedly. 

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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2015, 02:07:09 PM »
The podcast I mentioned discussed desalination too, as did another podcast I listened to last week(Stuff you should know).  They were talking about how much brine is left over from the process and how it is pretty harmful to dump back in the ocean without either spreading it out a bunch or going quite a ways off shore.  Also, it requires a lot of either pressure or heat.  Like a ton.  Supposedly there is a latest tech type plant being built named the Posideon right now in CA and CA will base a lot of their forward plans on how efficient and productive it is.  Kinda an all-in type bet, supposedly.

you mean that a lot of coastal cities in socal will base their plans on how efficient it is compared to importing water from the north.  for california as a state, desalination is not a serious option to water needs.
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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2015, 02:11:33 PM »
The podcast I mentioned discussed desalination too, as did another podcast I listened to last week(Stuff you should know).  They were talking about how much brine is left over from the process and how it is pretty harmful to dump back in the ocean without either spreading it out a bunch or going quite a ways off shore.  Also, it requires a lot of either pressure or heat.  Like a ton.  Supposedly there is a latest tech type plant being built named the Posideon right now in CA and CA will base a lot of their forward plans on how efficient and productive it is.  Kinda an all-in type bet, supposedly.

you mean that a lot of coastal cities in socal will base their plans on how efficient it is compared to importing water from the north.  for california as a state, desalination is not a serious option to water needs.

Correct, as in if they will continue to pursue it as means to gain potable water rather than some other solution.

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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2015, 02:25:40 PM »
The podcast I mentioned discussed desalination too, as did another podcast I listened to last week(Stuff you should know).  They were talking about how much brine is left over from the process and how it is pretty harmful to dump back in the ocean without either spreading it out a bunch or going quite a ways off shore.  Also, it requires a lot of either pressure or heat.  Like a ton.  Supposedly there is a latest tech type plant being built named the Posideon right now in CA and CA will base a lot of their forward plans on how efficient and productive it is.  Kinda an all-in type bet, supposedly.

They should inject the brine into the San Andreas fault and pray to God it triggers an earthquake that sends LA crumbling into the ocean.

Seriously though, inject the water, don't rough ridin' spread it across the ocean. Good grief.
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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2015, 05:45:39 PM »
ENVIROLIBS  :curse:
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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2015, 09:44:24 PM »
ENVIROLIBS  :curse:

Ironic the pickle they've found themselves in. Nobody preaches and mandates conservation more than cali, yet no state consumes more
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« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2015, 09:55:28 PM »
The podcast I mentioned discussed desalination too, as did another podcast I listened to last week(Stuff you should know).  They were talking about how much brine is left over from the process and how it is pretty harmful to dump back in the ocean without either spreading it out a bunch or going quite a ways off shore.  Also, it requires a lot of either pressure or heat.  Like a ton.  Supposedly there is a latest tech type plant being built named the Posideon right now in CA and CA will base a lot of their forward plans on how efficient and productive it is.  Kinda an all-in type bet, supposedly.

They should inject the brine into the San Andreas fault and pray to God it triggers an earthquake that sends LA crumbling into the ocean.

Seriously though, inject the water, don't rough ridin' spread it across the ocean. Good grief.

I actually really agree with this. Do we honestly need California? If they were to sink, that's one less swing state to worry about next year
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« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2015, 11:00:19 PM »
ENVIROLIBS  :curse:

Ironic the pickle they've found themselves in. Nobody preaches and mandates conservation more than cali, yet no state consumes more

Great talking point  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2015, 11:47:35 PM »
The podcast I mentioned discussed desalination too, as did another podcast I listened to last week(Stuff you should know).  They were talking about how much brine is left over from the process and how it is pretty harmful to dump back in the ocean without either spreading it out a bunch or going quite a ways off shore.  Also, it requires a lot of either pressure or heat.  Like a ton.  Supposedly there is a latest tech type plant being built named the Posideon right now in CA and CA will base a lot of their forward plans on how efficient and productive it is.  Kinda an all-in type bet, supposedly.

They should inject the brine into the San Andreas fault and pray to God it triggers an earthquake that sends LA crumbling into the ocean.

Seriously though, inject the water, don't rough ridin' spread it across the ocean. Good grief.

I actually really agree with this. Do we honestly need California? If they were to sink, that's one less swing state to worry about next year

California is the prototypical swing state.

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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2015, 08:21:45 AM »
ENVIROLIBS  :curse:

Ironic the pickle they've found themselves in. Nobody preaches and mandates conservation more than cali, yet no state consumes more

We need to figure out a way for them to be able to consume even more. That state is propping this country up.

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« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2015, 06:52:04 AM »
I don't think anyone is say that at all Dax
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« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2015, 08:57:53 AM »
ENVIROLIBS  :curse:

Ironic the pickle they've found themselves in. Nobody preaches and mandates conservation more than cali, yet no state consumes more

We need to figure out a way for them to be able to consume even more. That state is propping this country up.

It truly is the Santa Maria of the dystopian armada that is liberal economic policy. Which explains why it's sinking the fastest.

As far as destroying ecosystems, Los Angeles' aqueduct from the mono basin and surrounding areas is a fascinating study in short sighted stupidity and the scorched earth that is generally California.
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« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2015, 09:32:38 AM »
ENVIROLIBS  :curse:

Ironic the pickle they've found themselves in. Nobody preaches and mandates conservation more than cali, yet no state consumes more

We need to figure out a way for them to be able to consume even more. That state is propping this country up.

It truly is the Santa Maria of the dystopian armada that is liberal economic policy. Which explains why it's sinking the fastest.

As far as destroying ecosystems, Los Angeles' aqueduct from the mono basin and surrounding areas is a fascinating study in short sighted stupidity and the scorched earth that is generally California.

In terms of creating economy, that aqueduct is a huge success that other states should model.

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« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2015, 09:55:56 AM »
The podcast I mentioned discussed desalination too, as did another podcast I listened to last week(Stuff you should know).  They were talking about how much brine is left over from the process and how it is pretty harmful to dump back in the ocean without either spreading it out a bunch or going quite a ways off shore.  Also, it requires a lot of either pressure or heat.  Like a ton.  Supposedly there is a latest tech type plant being built named the Posideon right now in CA and CA will base a lot of their forward plans on how efficient and productive it is.  Kinda an all-in type bet, supposedly.

you mean that a lot of coastal cities in socal will base their plans on how efficient it is compared to importing water from the north.  for california as a state, desalination is not a serious option to water needs.

The problem is that Nocal poiticians have the ability to decrease water to Socal, and in turn increase prices, so desalination is/will be very viable in the future. Also, many municipalities have/are considering recycled water for landscaping and desal water for drinking.

The drought is caused by nature, but the water shortage is caused by politicians.

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« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2015, 10:48:37 AM »
ENVIROLIBS  :curse:

Ironic the pickle they've found themselves in. Nobody preaches and mandates conservation more than cali, yet no state consumes more

We need to figure out a way for them to be able to consume even more. That state is propping this country up.

It truly is the Santa Maria of the dystopian armada that is liberal economic policy. Which explains why it's sinking the fastest.

As far as destroying ecosystems, Los Angeles' aqueduct from the mono basin and surrounding areas is a fascinating study in short sighted stupidity and the scorched earth that is generally California.

In terms of creating economy, that aqueduct is a huge success that other states should model.

 :lol:
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« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2015, 09:35:48 PM »
The water shortage issue is a farce in the good ole USA.  We have more fresh water than we know what to do with.  We got equipment and manpower to build water districts and channels to spread and distribute fresh water anywhere in the country. 

This water shortage talk is as stupid as the fuel shortage problems manufactured by big corp.  :facepalm: 
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« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2015, 08:51:35 AM »
Katdaddy ftw.


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« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2015, 02:19:46 PM »
Katdaddy ftw.


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He's right that the US has enough water to meet demand for the foreseeable future, but moving water from the eastern US to the west isn't that easy.

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« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2015, 08:13:13 PM »
1 almond: 1 gal water.

1 walnut: 6 gal water. 

Interesting,  if accurate.

How much water does it take to make a person?

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« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2015, 08:20:33 PM »
The greenies and little critter protectors put endangered species and little birds ahead of drinking water, food, and poor people.  Water is being flushed down rivers to the ocean bays to keep some 2 inch fish alive - let the damn things die instead of people.

More like Nestle would rather make profit...but you know, reason. http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/2014/07/12/nestle-arrowhead-tapping-water/12589267/

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« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2015, 09:02:44 PM »
More like Nestle would rather make profit...but you know, reason. http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/2014/07/12/nestle-arrowhead-tapping-water/12589267/

that's really hardly any water at all.
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« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2015, 09:56:31 PM »
Katdaddy ftw.


Gonna win 'em all!

He's right that the US has enough water to meet demand for the foreseeable future, but moving water from the eastern US to the west isn't that easy.

There's plenty of water in California, but NoCal doesn't want to send it to SoCal.