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Quote from: pissclams on March 10, 2015, 08:54:32 AMQuote from: michigancat on March 10, 2015, 08:50:48 AMQuote from: pissclams on March 10, 2015, 08:38:02 AMthis isn't a fraternity thing, or a greek system thing, or a college kid thing. it's a societal thing that exists and is protected in our country.people want to act like you can flip a switch and turn this stuff off after it's been going on for a few hundred years. and some people don't want to change and that should be their prerogative. kicking the SAE's off of OU's campus changes very little in Norman, OK. you mean to tell me that there are racist privileged frat boys in oklahoma? sorry, i'm not buying it.There would not be kids on a party bus singing this song without SAE and their culture which is supported by a national organization going back to the antebellum south along with support from OU. You'll have racist privileged kids, but they wouldn't act like this on their own or in any modern organization.do you really believe that they wouldn't be singing/saying racists stuff outside of/without the sponsorship of, SAE? give me a break.not like this, no. This was way worse than anything you'd see on any campus without the support of fraternities.
Quote from: michigancat on March 10, 2015, 08:50:48 AMQuote from: pissclams on March 10, 2015, 08:38:02 AMthis isn't a fraternity thing, or a greek system thing, or a college kid thing. it's a societal thing that exists and is protected in our country.people want to act like you can flip a switch and turn this stuff off after it's been going on for a few hundred years. and some people don't want to change and that should be their prerogative. kicking the SAE's off of OU's campus changes very little in Norman, OK. you mean to tell me that there are racist privileged frat boys in oklahoma? sorry, i'm not buying it.There would not be kids on a party bus singing this song without SAE and their culture which is supported by a national organization going back to the antebellum south along with support from OU. You'll have racist privileged kids, but they wouldn't act like this on their own or in any modern organization.do you really believe that they wouldn't be singing/saying racists stuff outside of/without the sponsorship of, SAE? give me a break.
Quote from: pissclams on March 10, 2015, 08:38:02 AMthis isn't a fraternity thing, or a greek system thing, or a college kid thing. it's a societal thing that exists and is protected in our country.people want to act like you can flip a switch and turn this stuff off after it's been going on for a few hundred years. and some people don't want to change and that should be their prerogative. kicking the SAE's off of OU's campus changes very little in Norman, OK. you mean to tell me that there are racist privileged frat boys in oklahoma? sorry, i'm not buying it.There would not be kids on a party bus singing this song without SAE and their culture which is supported by a national organization going back to the antebellum south along with support from OU. You'll have racist privileged kids, but they wouldn't act like this on their own or in any modern organization.
this isn't a fraternity thing, or a greek system thing, or a college kid thing. it's a societal thing that exists and is protected in our country.people want to act like you can flip a switch and turn this stuff off after it's been going on for a few hundred years. and some people don't want to change and that should be their prerogative. kicking the SAE's off of OU's campus changes very little in Norman, OK. you mean to tell me that there are racist privileged frat boys in oklahoma? sorry, i'm not buying it.
So is there some kind of a debate ITT or are we just making fun of OU?
Quote from: michigancat on March 10, 2015, 09:00:21 AMQuote from: pissclams on March 10, 2015, 08:54:32 AMQuote from: michigancat on March 10, 2015, 08:50:48 AMQuote from: pissclams on March 10, 2015, 08:38:02 AMthis isn't a fraternity thing, or a greek system thing, or a college kid thing. it's a societal thing that exists and is protected in our country.people want to act like you can flip a switch and turn this stuff off after it's been going on for a few hundred years. and some people don't want to change and that should be their prerogative. kicking the SAE's off of OU's campus changes very little in Norman, OK. you mean to tell me that there are racist privileged frat boys in oklahoma? sorry, i'm not buying it.There would not be kids on a party bus singing this song without SAE and their culture which is supported by a national organization going back to the antebellum south along with support from OU. You'll have racist privileged kids, but they wouldn't act like this on their own or in any modern organization.do you really believe that they wouldn't be singing/saying racists stuff outside of/without the sponsorship of, SAE? give me a break.not like this, no. This was way worse than anything you'd see on any campus without the support of fraternities.i would guess that the real racist hayseeds on OU's campus don't have the social and financial means to survive fraternity life. i would also guess that the majority of kids that have sung this song are simpletons who are just repeating things that they've heard their older brothers or fathers say and acting in a similar fashion. i'd bet that a lot of these guys "have black friends" on campus.
I was being facetious
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on March 10, 2015, 09:48:32 AMSo is there some kind of a debate ITT or are we just making fun of OU?a couple of people who have graduated college are still talking about how they hate fraternities. theres a debate going on with some pretty alarming numbers but obviously no sources to back them up. a few people are making fun of texas and oklahoma but its more background noise.
the real amusing part, to me, is how this was clearly done to show off for their dates. "Check out our crazy racist song ladies"
John O. Moseley Leadership School
Can you imagine all of the dildos at that leadership school trying to out leader each other? Christ almighty.
Is this real?http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/video-purports-to-show-oklahoma-sae-house-mom-using-n-word/
The thread should be about funny SAE things. Just look at that pic below! It's for real!?!? It's not a parody!?!? Are you rough ridin' kidding me!?!?Quote from: chum1 on March 09, 2015, 07:52:09 PMJohn O. Moseley Leadership School
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/10/no-a-public-university-may-not-expel-students-for-racist-speech/
Quote from: Dlew12 on March 10, 2015, 01:02:32 PMhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/10/no-a-public-university-may-not-expel-students-for-racist-speech/hahaha, in your face, Eugene Volokh!I think it's clear from the wording of the University's response that D-Bo & Co. have in mind Tinker vs. Des Moines in which the Supreme Court ruled that students' first amendment rights can only be prohibited by school administrators if they could show that it would cause a substantial disruption of the school's educational mission. D-Bo's response cites the creation of a "hostile learning environment for others."
Quote from: Spracne on March 10, 2015, 01:07:38 PMQuote from: Dlew12 on March 10, 2015, 01:02:32 PMhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/10/no-a-public-university-may-not-expel-students-for-racist-speech/hahaha, in your face, Eugene Volokh!I think it's clear from the wording of the University's response that D-Bo & Co. have in mind Tinker vs. Des Moines in which the Supreme Court ruled that students' first amendment rights can only be prohibited by school administrators if they could show that it would cause a substantial disruption of the school's educational mission. D-Bo's response cites the creation of a "hostile learning environment for others."Yeah, but Tinker was a junior high or something. There's authority that says universities are different.If these kids/ACLU care to challenge this, they'd win.
It seems like a junior high would have more trouble winning than a university.
