Author Topic: This team... (Read 19367 times)

J · « **on:** February 28, 2015, 05:07:42 PM »

I swear to god...

That_Guy · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:08:36 PM »

Yeah?

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j rake · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:08:56 PM »

it's criminal that this team is a ncaa tourney afterthought.

best .500 team in college hoops history.

j rake · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:21:00 PM »

this is how k-state stacks up against the current last 8 in on bracketmatrix...

K-State: 8 top 50 wins, including 5 top 15 (also beat #51 purdue)
Stanford: 1 top 50 win, none in top 15
Illinois: 3 top 50 wins, 1 in top 15
Purdue: 6 top 50 wins, 1 in top 15
Oregon: 2 top 50 wins, 1 in top 15
Texas A&M: 4 top 50 wins, none in top 15
Temple: 2 top 50 wins, 1 in top 15
NC State: 4 top 50 wins, 1 in top 15
LSU: 6 top 50 wins, none in top 15

kso_FAN · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:24:32 PM »

Those 4 losses over >100 teams will kill us.

j rake · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:28:05 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 28, 2015, 05:24:32 PM

Those 4 losses over >100 teams will kill us.

michigan state lost to the same texas southern team. the long beach loss was on the road in a horrible spot with the maui trip on deck. k-state deserves credit for scheduling the game rather than being penalized too harshly. the tennessee loss, again, on the road. and the loss at texas tech (without foster) isn't as bad as people make it out to be. k-state was favored by 3 points.

sys · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:30:18 PM »

it's those 15 losses.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:32:48 PM »

We had a lot of losses during the Foster suspension/benching. Doesn't the committee give some consideration to starters being out?

ChiComCat · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:34:30 PM »

15 losses would be a record for an at large. Barring us playing into the tournament via the Big 12 in which case its irrelevant, we will have at least 16.

sys · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:36:40 PM »

gotta win two more to possibly get an nit bid? is it .500 or better than .500?

ChiComCat · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:39:05 PM »

Quote from: sys on February 28, 2015, 05:36:40 PM

gotta win two more to possibly get an nit bid? is it .500 or better than .500?

From what I read in some article, there is no strict rule and they could invite us regardless of record.

wetwillie · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:40:43 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 28, 2015, 05:24:32 PM

Those 4 losses over >100 teams will kill us.

Won't fosters suspension be an asterisk or something

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:42:57 PM »

Quote from: ChiCat on February 28, 2015, 05:34:30 PM

15 losses would be a record for an at large. Barring us playing into the tournament via the Big 12 in which case its irrelevant, we will have at least 16.

Records were made to be broken. There has never been a team with 16 losses and as many wins over the RPI top 30 as we have.

sys · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:43:21 PM »

Quote from: ChiCat on February 28, 2015, 05:39:05 PM

From what I read in some article, there is no strict rule and they could invite us regardless of record.

right, but which is the tradition?

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:44:43 PM »

This is where some pundit say, "the objective should be to get the best 68 teams in the tournament, and kstate is clearly one of those teams. As evidenced by all those awesome wins". And then everyone nods and agrees. And then some jack wagon says good teams don't lose to Tech by 50.

CNS · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:46:03 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on February 28, 2015, 05:40:43 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 28, 2015, 05:24:32 PM
Those 4 losses over >100 teams will kill us.

Won't fosters suspension be an asterisk or something

If he was killing it now, this would probably be something that would be considered. Since he isnt, it won't be, imo.

sys · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2015, 05:49:12 PM »

Quote from: sys on February 28, 2015, 05:43:21 PM

right, but which is the tradition?

looked it up myself. it's just .500, not over .500. so any combo of two more wins would give kstate a shot. or a win at ut and then 1st round loss in kc.

SdK · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2015, 06:01:08 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 28, 2015, 05:44:43 PM

This is where some pundit say, "the objective should be to get the best 68 teams in the tournament, and kstate is clearly one of those teams. As evidenced by all those awesome wins". And then everyone nods and agrees. And then some jack wagon says good teams don't lose to Tech by 50.

Just win 2 more KSU and get in the convo. That's all I want. Just to be talked about with a 17+ and 16 record.

#TheWesIsTheFuture

CyberToothCat · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2015, 06:52:50 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 28, 2015, 05:32:48 PM

We had a lot of losses during the Foster suspension/benching. Doesn't the committee give some consideration to starters being out?

When it's a self-inflicted suspension causing his absence, there is zero reason for the committee to give us consideration for losses that occurred during the suspension. Injuries? That's a different story.

Steffy08 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2015, 06:55:51 PM »

The talking point is going to be: "Yes, but K-State had so many more chances to get quality wins."

Somehow, someway, our insane schedule will end up being held against us. Just watch. The media is so predictable.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2015, 07:01:41 PM »

This is kind of how I was as a student. I'd do great on some big test but forget to turn in a bunch of home work that was like 25% of the grade, easy points, just complete this work sheet type stuff, and then I'd get a C- for the quarter.

chum1 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 28, 2015, 07:02:08 PM »

Quote from: sys on February 28, 2015, 05:30:18 PM

it's those 15 losses.

Yeah. Almost all teams have bad losses. Plus, bad losses aren't pertinent to the tournament because there aren't bad teams in the tournament. Given this team's good wins, overall record is the true killer.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 28, 2015, 07:06:49 PM »

bad losses are no big deal. having a bunch of them is a big deal. if we beat Georgia and Texas Southern we're 17-13 and a bubble team.

AndrewVonLintel · « **Reply #23 on:** February 28, 2015, 07:10:19 PM »

my opinion was that we would need 10 or 11 conference wins to get in the dance. I think that we have managed to create a situation where 9-9 in conference play may get us in.....

It is stupid.... but when you beat a bunch of good teams even with ridiculous losses, the NCAA appreciates this. I think that we need to be beat Texas and win the first round of the Tournament and that will probably be enough to squeek in. It may be better to have the most interesting resume in the world instead of beat a bunch of teams you should with a few good wins thrown in.

I think they would rather have us in because we could knock off a much higher ranked team in the first round or at least make it a game (See Arizona, KU, OU x 2, ISU).

With the way this season is going I wouldn't be surprised if they put us in against Wichita State in the opening game?

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 28, 2015, 07:13:20 PM »

guys it ain't happening