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« Reply #3525 on: June 12, 2010, 07:54:47 PM »
They way this could unfold . . . would not be shocked to find out someday that Pac, Big 10, SEC, ACC, and MWC commish's colluded.  



my black helicopter theory is that the pac10 and big10 commish colluded.  texas thinks it has leverage and is kind of finding out in this process that it isn't as much as they thought (though it's still quite a bit).  even if on tuesday, the South said "we're stayin'"  delaney could blow that sh*t up by inviting MU (along with others and expanding the big 10 further) and that would force texas to join the pac 10 (on the Pac10's terms), end the big 12, and make the Rose Bowl even bigger (i.e. you'd almost always have ou or texas or usc vs. tosu, mich, or neb)...at this point, the big 10 and pac10 practically own everything of consequence in the upper midwest to the pacific.

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« Reply #3526 on: June 12, 2010, 07:56:10 PM »
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wow...lets see if the BOR has the balls to let us separate.  I promise you we are the next invite....Utah only gets in if we dont accept the bid to the PAC.  My concern is we wont hear about it and they will just say we were the 2nd choice so they dont piss us off and can drag kstate along for the ride.

always gotta keep the "blame KSU backup plan"
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« Reply #3527 on: June 12, 2010, 07:58:01 PM »
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« Reply #3528 on: June 12, 2010, 07:59:18 PM »
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wow...lets see if the BOR has the balls to let us separate.  I promise you we are the next invite....Utah only gets in if we dont accept the bid to the PAC.  My concern is we wont hear about it and they will just say we were the 2nd choice so they dont piss us off and can drag kstate along for the ride.

always gotta keep the "blame KSU backup plan"

Tardville never strays far from the "blame KSU" backup plan.   So many of them still can't reconcile themselves to the reality that they weren't one of the first to be mentioned.


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« Reply #3529 on: June 12, 2010, 07:59:50 PM »
hopefully memphis hop on the mwc train with the big 5
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« Reply #3530 on: June 12, 2010, 08:01:45 PM »
They thing Tardville has to be afraid of is the huge population growth in the Wasatch Range, the 5 county Front Range area is bigger than KC Metro as someone pointed out to me, can't remember who, and I just looked it up again.   20% population growth in the last decade.




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« Reply #3531 on: June 12, 2010, 08:05:40 PM »
hopefully they hop on the mwc train with the big 5

I honestly don't think the MWC will mean anything in the long run, unless the final count for the Big leagues is 80.  I hope that is the case but IMHO 64 is more likely, and we are either last four in or first four out in that scenario.  If it is indeed 80 we should be in no problem.

64 teams 8 divisions and the playoffs begin.
80 teams 10 divisions throw in a couple play-in games and there you have it.

I feel like this could have all been avoided if the NCAA would have developed a playoff system years ago.  I dunno maybe they tried, but the invisible hand wouldn't let it happen.
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« Reply #3532 on: June 12, 2010, 08:06:32 PM »
Finally, Saturday's latest on realignment: A&M may be ready to join SEC   Reply
Multiple sources tell Orangebloods.com Texas A&M has enough votes on its nine-member Board of Regents to join the Southeastern Conference and could announce that move as soon as next week.

The sources said A&M and SEC commissioner Mike Slive are now working feverishly to convince Oklahoma to join the SEC with the Aggies rather than follow Texas to the Pac-10.

Sources said Slive was meeting with A&M officials on Saturday.

There is speculation among several sources in the Big 12 that if OU had to choose between the Pac-10 and SEC, it would choose the SEC. But sources close to OU say, up to this point, the Sooners have made a decision to go with Texas and not break up one of college football's most unique rivalries.

Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione was quoted in the Tulsa World last week saying the Sooners are committed to going where Texas goes.

Sources close to the SEC/Texas A&M talks say Oklahoma is still listening to proposals from the SEC. But the sources said the SEC is not interested in Oklahoma State. Trying to split OU and Oklahoma State could cause resistance in the Oklahoma Legislature, which appears to have more members who've graduated from OSU than OU, according to an informal count.


A&M APPEARS COMMITTED TO SEC

A&M's charge to the SEC is being led by Texas A&M System chancellor Mike McKinney and A&M regent Gene Stallings, who won a national title as coach at Alabama in 1992. That charge includes the argument to Oklahoma that it's better to join the SEC from a regional, financial and athletic standpoint than it is to go west to the Pac-10.

A call to Gov. Rick Perry's office Saturday by Orangebloods.com resulted in a statement from Perry released by spokesman Rob Johnson. The quotes from Perry in the statement were the same he made to the Austin American-Statesman on Thursday.

"We'll let the board of regents at the appropriate universities make the decisions," Perry said. "If it was up to me, I'd have an all-Texas conference.

"I kind of like the old Southwest Conference. But at the end of the day, it will be decisions that each individual university will make."

Sources close to Perry had initially indicated Perry would work to keep Texas and Texas A&M together. But that no longer appears to be the case. When he was asked specifically by the Statesman if Texas and A&M should stay together, Perry said:

"I think to try to sit here and try to play out every scenario that you or anybody else can come up with is not particularly productive. I think what is productive is for boards of regents to be thoughtful; to make wise, good decisions for the university."

It doesn't take binoculars to read between those lines - Perry appears to be letting McKinney, his former chief of staff, do what he thinks is best. Stallings said this week on different radio shows he thinks A&M can stand alone without Texas.

Sources close to Texas have indicated if A&M doesn't stay aligned with Texas in a move to the Pac-10, the Longhorns would not be scheduling A&M in any sport any time soon.

If so, the opening line to the Texas A&M fight song (which is almost entirely about Texas), "Good-bye to Texas University ...", could be taken quite literally.

Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott met with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State officials on Saturday in Oklahoma City before meeting with Texas A&M officials on Sunday, sources said.

A meeting of the Big 12 South athletic directors with Larry Scott is tentatively planned for Monday in Dallas, sources said.


LAST-DITCH EFFORT TO SAVE 10-MEMBER BIG 12

With A&M's talks with the SEC heating up; OU's position possibly, suddenly unclear; and Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State all seemingly firm in their commitment to joining the Pac-10; there appears to be wild, last-second maneuvering to hold the 10 remaining Big 12 schools together.

The effort is being led by commissioner Dan Beebe to show proof of a future television agreement for the 10 remaining schools in the Big 12 on par with the SEC that would preserve individual school's rights to launch their own distribution platforms, including networks.

Beebe would only tell Orangebloods.com on Saturday, "I'm working tirelessly to make a compelling case for our institutions to remain together. I'm trying to present them with proof that shows these 10 institutions are worth more together than if they joined other conferences."

Sources said that proof from Beebe is believed to be assurances from one or more media experts that a 10-member Big 12 can still achieve a TV deal that would pay on par with the SEC's $17 million per school - while also preserving schools' rights to explore their own networks.

Multiple sources have said Texas will finalize plans to join the Pac-10 at a regents meeting planned for Tuesday in Austin. Up to this point, OU, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech have privately vowed to go where Texas goes.

Two Big 12 sources said Texas president Bill Powers, a California-Berkeley graduate, has been the driving force in convincing UT's nine-member regents board the Longhorns' future belongs in the Pac-10.

Those sources say they don't know if Powers would be willing to consider any alternatives that would keep the 10 Big 12 schools together - even if there's proof a possible TV deal on par with the SEC ($17 million) could be reached AND still allow UT and other schools to have an individual network.

Two Big 12 sources say all the athletic directors in the Big 12 South, including Texas A&M's Bill Byrne and Texas' DeLoss Dodds, favor holding the remaining 10 schools together.

But that A&M System Chancellor Mike McKinney and Powers may not be able to be talked back to the table.

"If there's evidence we can be more valuable as a 10-member league than as a 12-member league, and you're going to get to have your own TV network, why would you subject your school to all the travel required in the Pac-10?" said one top official at another Big 12 school.

"We just lost our two worst basketball programs (Nebraska and Colorado). We could play nine conference games in football and choose to have the championship game or not, depending on what Texas wants. The two coaches who always hated the conference title game the most were Mack Brown and Bob Stoops. I think the rest of us would be willing to go with that they wanted."

Messages left by Orangebloods.com with OU, A&M and Texas officials were not immediately returned.


TAPPING THE BRAKES?

Texas Rep. Dan Branch (R-Dallas), who heads the House Higher Education Committee, wants to slow everything down and determine if decisions involving Texas schools in potential conference realignment are being made for the right reasons.

Branch is calling for hearings on Wednesday morning and told Orangebloods.com on Saturday that he'll invite the presidents from Texas, Texas Tech and Texas A&M as well as presidents from Baylor, TCU, SMU, Rice, Houston, UTEP and North Texas.

Branch also plans to invite Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe, Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky and possibly even Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott.

Branch said he also wants to hear testimony from some economists about the long-term financial impact of having major universities in Texas leave the Big 12.

"There's a lot of questions about the look to the west and how that affects multiple sports programs and students and what kind of dollars are involved," said Branch, who attended Oklahoma Christian as an undergrad and SMU law school.

"Why does it make sense to go so quickly? Does it make sense to look west versus east and what are the options?

"We're talking about changing the habits of a lot of students, and apparently there's a lot of money in play. These are important public assets, our universities. So the members have some questions because it's caused considerable interest, questions, e-mail traffic and blogging that has ended up in the members' districts.

"It's not just being driven by Baylor, which is obviously making a strong push among its alumni around the state. But also the alumni of SMU, TCU, the University of Houston. And we've got people at Texas A&M and even at Tech and Texas who have questions.

"Maybe it is a good thing to move this quickly and this fast. And maybe it is a good thing to have a group of Texas schools go to the Pac-10. But if it is, let's lay out the case before the public."

Branch said House Appropriations Committee chairman Jim Pitts (R-Waxahachie) and Texas House Speaker Joe Straus (R-San Antonio) would also sit in on the hearings.

"We're not trying to micromanage," Branch said. "But on the other hand, we're trying to get plenty of transparency because we're getting a lot of pushback at a lot of questions."

Stay tuned.

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« Reply #3533 on: June 12, 2010, 08:07:26 PM »
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« Reply #3534 on: June 12, 2010, 08:12:52 PM »
So, how close are you to being a fully converted KSU fan?

That already happened a while back.

bullshit.  real kstate fans hate isu.  they don't go around posting about how they feel bad for haverhill (may he rot in hell).
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« Reply #3535 on: June 12, 2010, 08:17:38 PM »
Yep that region is the second fastest growing in the states.  They are at 2,051,330 pop. right now.  Utah is the second fastest growing state. 

10 Fastest-Growing U.S. Metro Areas:  April 1, 2000-July 1, 2006
 
     St. George, Utah                                            39.8%
     Greeley, Colo.                                              31.0%
     Cape Coral-Fort Myers, Fla.                                 29.6%
     Bend, Ore.                                                  29.3%
     Las Vegas-Paradise, Nev.                                    29.2%
     Provo-Orem, Utah                                            25.9%
     Naples-Marco Island, Fla.                                   25.2%
     Raleigh-Cary, N.C.                                          24.8%
     Gainesville, Ga.                                            24.4%
     Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, Ariz.                              24.2%
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« Reply #3536 on: June 12, 2010, 08:19:35 PM »
Utah as a state is almost equal to Kansas Population and they are growing much, much, much faster.


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« Reply #3537 on: June 12, 2010, 08:25:28 PM »
Utah as a state is almost equal to Kansas Population and they are growing much, much, much faster.



About three times as fast.

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« Reply #3538 on: June 12, 2010, 08:25:41 PM »
so say the remaining 5 goes to mwc and they lost utah but recently added boise state. do you think mwc tries anymore moves (fresno state, memphis, houston etc). it seems like nows the time to grab what you can. that one article where mwc was talking about becoming a bcs school they said they were open to being a larger conference.

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« Reply #3540 on: June 12, 2010, 08:26:14 PM »
I'm really not liking these presidents and chancellors that are moving their schools out of the Big 12 just because they can.


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« Reply #3542 on: June 12, 2010, 08:31:35 PM »
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Kansas State president Kirk Schulz said staying close to home is his strong preference.

“The Olympic sports, you can’t imagine people leaving early in the morning, competing and being back home that night,” Schulz said. “Some of those three time-zone conferences, it’s going to take a couple days to play conference opponents.”

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« Reply #3544 on: June 12, 2010, 08:34:00 PM »
any idea how the mwc would feel joining the remaining big 12 schools instead of us joining them since big 12 has bcs

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« Reply #3545 on: June 12, 2010, 08:34:51 PM »
any idea how the mwc would feel joining the remaining big 12 schools instead of us joining them since big 12 has bcs

The MWC commish was quoted as saying everything is on the table. It was from a day or two ago.

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« Reply #3546 on: June 12, 2010, 08:35:00 PM »
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Kansas State president Kirk Schulz said staying close to home is his strong preference.

“The Olympic sports, you can’t imagine people leaving early in the morning, competing and being back home that night,” Schulz said. “Some of those three time-zone conferences, it’s going to take a couple days to play conference opponents.”

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kirk damnett if the big east calls you had better not eff it up.

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« Reply #3547 on: June 12, 2010, 08:36:25 PM »
The MWC commish was quoted as saying everything is on the table. It was from a day or two ago.

nice. im hoping this could work out for us

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« Reply #3548 on: June 12, 2010, 08:37:12 PM »
When conference Armageddon is going down and your school president is talking about Olympic sport athletes missing class you are absolutely mumped.  mumped.

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« Reply #3549 on: June 12, 2010, 08:38:17 PM »
yeah but hopefully someone else with half a brain is able to guide things in the right way. but certainly he seems like a fool

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