Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[wiley]

personally, i'm just thankful we've lasted as a bcs school for this long. it's been an absolute dream.

Deloss Dodds has forgotten about us. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

What’s a tough pill to swallow is the mountain west, or whatever crappy conference we end up in, is probably where we “deserve” to be, given our size as a university and athletic department.  But it still doesn’t change the fact that moving to a crappy conference is not good for anything we do athletically or institutionally.  Our only saving grace, institutionally, is if we drag Kansas with us.  Because if kids (not just recruits) have a choice in this state whether to go to a Pac 10 school or a mountain west school, which one are they going to choose?  Because the choice is pretty fracking clear in Colorado…CSU’s enrollment is around 25K, CU’s is around 54K…sound familiar?  And that’s in a state with nearly double the population of Kansas.  Kansas (the university of) better hope that they can whore themselves out well enough AND that A&M or OU decide not to take the Pac-10 offer and go to the SEC, cause they are just as fracked as we are if they have to go to the Mountain West.   Bill f’ing Self is not going to coach in the Mountain West conference, nor is any coach worth a sh*t once he leaves.  Name a fracking non-bcs member that has won a national championship in basketball…….you have to go back to Lousiville in 1986 (they were an independent then).  Kansas fans want, desperately, to think that they’ll be able to maintain their “status” if they were relegated to the mountain west, but that’s a pipe dream.

If the Big 12 dissolves, it is very likely that some other conference will get the automatic qualification for a BCS game. How would a conference including BYU, Utah, Boise State, TCU, K-State, and KU not get that qualification? This would be a better conference than the Big East in football. This would also be a better basketball conference than the SEC, and you don't see big time coaches bolting Kentucky.

[ew2x4]

No chance that the Big XII just doesn't add teams to the roster. I think we could pick and grab some decent teams.

[Rage Against the McKee]

No chance that the Big XII just doesn't add teams to the roster. I think we could pick and grab some decent teams.

Maybe, but if all we have to work with is KU, K-State, Iowa State, and Baylor, it's pretty tough. The MWC already has its own network and teams in large markets who might actually start giving a crap about college football if they were in a BCS conference.

[I_have_purplewood]

No chance that the Big XII just doesn't add teams to the roster. I think we could pick and grab some decent teams.

Maybe, but if all we have to work with is KU, K-State, Iowa State, and Baylor, it's pretty tough. The MWC already has its own network and teams in large markets who might actually start giving a crap about college football if they were in a BCS conference.

I think you're forgetting about Mizzou and Nebraska.  If the Texas teams bolt for the Pac 10, the Big 10 won't settle for Mizzou and Nebraska.  imo

[Rage Against the McKee]

you have to go back to Lousiville in 1986 (they were an independent then).

UNLV 1990

[Rage Against the McKee]

No chance that the Big XII just doesn't add teams to the roster. I think we could pick and grab some decent teams.

Maybe, but if all we have to work with is KU, K-State, Iowa State, and Baylor, it's pretty tough. The MWC already has its own network and teams in large markets who might actually start giving a crap about college football if they were in a BCS conference.

I think you're forgetting about Mizzou and Nebraska.  If the Texas teams bolt for the Pac 10, the Big 10 won't settle for Mizzou and Nebraska.  imo

If they want Mizzou and Nebraska now, I would think that they would want them even more in this scenario, as well as one or two big east teams.

[catzacker]

you have to go back to Lousiville in 1986 (they were an independent then).

UNLV 1990

yes, forgot about them.  they sure had a nice little mid-major run. 

[ew2x4]

No chance that the Big XII just doesn't add teams to the roster. I think we could pick and grab some decent teams.

Maybe, but if all we have to work with is KU, K-State, Iowa State, and Baylor, it's pretty tough. The MWC already has its own network and teams in large markets who might actually start giving a crap about college football if they were in a BCS conference.

TCU, Boise State, Utah, BYU, would all kill to be a part of the Big XII. Don't kid yourself.

That would dissolve the MWC. If we could nab Louisville and/or Cincinatti, it would be a good conference. Almost better than what the Big XII was.

[Rage Against the McKee]

No chance that the Big XII just doesn't add teams to the roster. I think we could pick and grab some decent teams.

Maybe, but if all we have to work with is KU, K-State, Iowa State, and Baylor, it's pretty tough. The MWC already has its own network and teams in large markets who might actually start giving a crap about college football if they were in a BCS conference.

TCU, Boise State, Utah, BYU, would all kill to be a part of the Big XII. Don't kid yourself.

That would dissolve the MWC. If we could nab Louisville and/or Cincinatti, it would be a good conference. Almost better than what the Big XII was.

The whole "We don't gain any market from adding Houston" argument kind of goes out the window now as well.

[felix rex]

No chance that the Big XII just doesn't add teams to the roster. I think we could pick and grab some decent teams.

Maybe, but if all we have to work with is KU, K-State, Iowa State, and Baylor, it's pretty tough. The MWC already has its own network and teams in large markets who might actually start giving a crap about college football if they were in a BCS conference.

TCU, Boise State, Utah, BYU, would all kill to be a part of the Big XII. Don't kid yourself.

That would dissolve the MWC. If we could nab Louisville and/or Cincinatti, it would be a good conference. Almost better than what the Big XII was.

I still remember taunting TCU fans about how much better we were just because we were BCS. 

[ew2x4]

No chance that the Big XII just doesn't add teams to the roster. I think we could pick and grab some decent teams.

Maybe, but if all we have to work with is KU, K-State, Iowa State, and Baylor, it's pretty tough. The MWC already has its own network and teams in large markets who might actually start giving a crap about college football if they were in a BCS conference.

TCU, Boise State, Utah, BYU, would all kill to be a part of the Big XII. Don't kid yourself.

That would dissolve the MWC. If we could nab Louisville and/or Cincinatti, it would be a good conference. Almost better than what the Big XII was.

The whole "We don't gain any market from adding Houston" argument kind of goes out the window now as well.

Yeah, sign them up. The biggest question is if we aim for 12 or 16.

[catzacker]

just a question in all of this "dissolve the mwc and reform the big 12" talk....why the shazbot! would we think that Bebee would have any vision of this or could get this done? 

[I_have_purplewood]

Has anyone been to the TCU, Utah, BYU sites welcoming our new brethren?  Might be a nice jester. 

[ew2x4]

just a question in all of this "dissolve the mwc and reform the big 12" talk....why the shazbot! would we think that Bebee would have any vision of this or could get this done? 

No other choice. Plus I'm sure there will be plenty of suitors coming to him for open spots.

[OK_Cat]

Has anyone been to the TCU, Utah, BYU sites welcoming our new brethren?  Might be a nice jester. 

show them the goEMAW.com commercial

[ew2x4]

810 just went to Beebe's press conference.

[EllToPay]

Beebe is absolutely clueless.

[Paul Moscow]

Summarize please

[Dr Rick Daris]

Summarize please

yes please

[Paul Moscow]

Summarize please

yes please

Kinda surprised we still have to ask for this

[EMAWzified]

Why not Cincy and Louisville? The football payoff for them would be huge, it would give the Big-10 competition in its own backyard and they bring a lot more homes/TVs than Utah or Boise.

[EllToPay]

Terrible, short answers. Has no contingency plans. Reporters hammering him on the recent reports, and he continue to says he's 'optimistic.'

Stuttering, repeating the same things over again.

:clack: <--- ETP if he was attending the news conference

[Saulbadguy]

Talking mainly about championship game locales and all that.

[Saulbadguy]

Avoiding questions about realignment, totally.