Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

["storm"nut]

Ya, that 2.8-3.8 number that they throw out INCLUDES the NCAA tourney money, it's not just TV.  LOL, they are going to get buried.

Agreed Pete.  The Catholic 7 are going to have to somehow find another revenue source for this to work. At this point, even opening up a theme park should be under consideration or they will end up merging with CUSA in 3-5 years.

Collection plates at games?

[Panjandrum]

Ya, that 2.8-3.8 number that they throw out INCLUDES the NCAA tourney money, it's not just TV.  LOL, they are going to get buried.

Agreed Pete.  The Catholic 7 are going to have to somehow find another revenue source for this to work. At this point, even opening up a theme park should be under consideration or they will end up merging with CUSA in 3-5 years.

I thought the basketball schools only got $1.5 million today, and the reason they split (other than not wanting to play teams like SMU and Tulane) was that they could make more cherry picking from the A-10.

I could easily be wrong.

[ksucrcoop]

Michigan is not Ohio State.

However, together, they are very powerful.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2012/12/19/college-footballs-most-valuable-teams-texas-longhorns-still-on-top/

Michigan - $120 Million valuation
Team from Ohio - $63 Million valuation

Please don't ever put the two in the same category again. Michigan runs the Big Ten - athletically and academically.

[steve dave]

That is definitely not the case

[Kat Kid]

That is definitely not the case

michigan has a huge number of t-shirt fans.  much bigger than osu.

[ksucrcoop]

That is definitely not the case

michigan has a huge number of t-shirt fans.  much bigger than osu.

plus an $8 bill endowment and the largest alumni base of any school.

[steve dave]

That is definitely not the case

michigan has a huge number of t-shirt fans.  much bigger than osu.

irrelevant. go to any CIC event and you know immediately who runs crap.

[michigancat]

They're also a "public ivy". No school but Northwestern touches their academics.

[sonofdaxjones]

Oh please, since half the state of Ohio has moved down my way and the other half vacations here, and I have inlaws from Ohio.   I can say with some degree of objectivity that Ohio State has a massive T-Shirt fanbase.       

[ben ji]

Forgot what poster it was but someone called all the tshirt Michigan fans "Walmart Wolverines"

I giggled

[Panjandrum]

Michigan is not Ohio State.

However, together, they are very powerful.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2012/12/19/college-footballs-most-valuable-teams-texas-longhorns-still-on-top/

Michigan - $120 Million valuation
Team from Ohio - $63 Million valuation

Please don't ever put the two in the same category again. Michigan runs the Big Ten - athletically and academically.

I'm sorry, are you talking to me about this stuff?

[Gooch]

Ohio State has a massive T-Shirt fanbase.       

Yes, PI'd the crap out of one in Jacksonville last year. Dude almost cried.

[Pete]

Michigan is a hugely influential school, but Ohio State makes more money than Michigan, and spends more money on sports than Michigan.  This from a Michigan site http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/comparison-athletic-departments-operating-budgets-u-m-black

TOP FIVE

School    Revenue    Expenses    Subsidies    Subsidies %
1. Texas    $150,295,926    $133,686,815    $0    0%
2. Ohio State    $131,815,821    $122,286,869    $0    0%
3. Alabama    $124,498,616    $105,068,152    $5,235,300    4.2%
4. Florida    $123,514,257    $107,157,831    $4,367,071    3.5%
5. Michigan    $122,739,052    $111,844,553    $272,684    0.2%
 

BIG TEN

School    Revenue    Expenses    Subsidies    Subsidies %
1. Ohio State    $131,815,821    $122,286,869    $0    0%
2. Michigan    $122,739,052    $111,844,553    $272,684    0.2%
3. Penn State    $116,118,025    $101,336,483    $0    0%
4. Wisconsin    $96,288,191    $95,623,345    $7,237,901    7.5%
5. Iowa    $93,353,561    $88,057,486    $564,680    0.6%
6. Michigan State    $84,510,199    $84,004,229    $3,650,280    4.3%
7. Nebraska    $83,679,756    $81,916,484    $0    0%
8. Minnesota    $78,924,683    $78,924,683    $7,778,861    9.9%
9. Illinois    $77,863,883    $73,476,818    $3,983,640    5.1%
10. Indiana    $71,017,355    $69,314,511    $2,686,769    3.8%
11. Purdue    $66,202,493    $59,429,383    $0    0%
Northwestern    N/A    N/A    N/A    N/A

[bakerman]

looks like we've got an old fashioned mgoblog.com vs. forbes.com off

 

[MakeItRain]

Wisconsin receives over 7 mil in subsidies

All of those schools with those budgets receiving subsidies should be ashamed

[MadCat]

Wisconsin receives over 7 mil in subsidies

All of those schools with those budgets receiving subsidies should be ashamed

K-State recently quit receiving subsidies, correct?  Not making a counterpoint, just want to know...

[GoodForAnother]

Wisconsin receives over 7 mil in subsidies

All of those schools with those budgets receiving subsidies should be ashamed

K-State recently quit receiving subsidies, correct?  Not making a counterpoint, just want to know...

If we haven't stopped yet, we're in the process of phasing out.

[MakeItRain]

We don't receive any subsidies.  I believe we have been off of them for two full years.

[Pete]

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/story/2012-05-14/ncaa-college-athletics-finances-database/54955804/1#mainstory

Subsidy: The sum of students fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money. The NCAA and others consider such funds "allocated" or everything not generated by the department's athletics functions.

Percent subsidy: Percent of revenues come from allocated sources.

Those "subsidies" for UW and Minn, for example, could be from about anything.  Hard to tell.  But, they are really rough ridin' big, that's for sure.

[kim carnes]

Wisconsin receives over 7 mil in subsidies

All of those schools with those budgets receiving subsidies should be ashamed

What do you expect?   It's a blue state.

[SkinnyBenny]

 

[Not Sure]

Wisconsin receives over 7 mil in subsidies

All of those schools with those budgets receiving subsidies should be ashamed

I can't believe Minnesota gives that much out in subsidies.  What a crappy return on that investment.

[SkinnyBenny]

 

[ChiComCat]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8773423/boise-state-trying-get-big-east-mountain-west-allow-broncos-retain-home-tv-rights-according-sources

I couldn't imagine either conference allowing it.  If someone gets away with this, I worry more would try.

[Katpappy]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8773423/boise-state-trying-get-big-east-mountain-west-allow-broncos-retain-home-tv-rights-according-sources

I couldn't imagine either conference allowing it.  If someone gets away with this, I worry more would try.

Who do they think they are; ND of the west!