Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[ben ji]

Still think the Big East survives and won't get torn apart like lots of people are claiming.  Penn State doesn't want Pitt in the Big 10, I just don't see WVU in the SEC or the ACC for that matter.   I don't see the ACC basketball powers all that excited to bring Syracuse in, and the Big 10 has that market captured already with Penn State . . . Penn State brings Penn, NY and Jersey, they don't need Cuse or Rutgers.   I also don't see the ACC all that excited about Louisville or Cinncy and neither of those schools are Big 10 material.

When do we fit dax for a clownsuit?

seems odd to single out dax in this thread.

I randomly started reading pages in the 400's, this jumped out at me.

[Belvis Noland]

I randomly started reading pages in the 400's, this jumped out at me.

when do we fit ben ji for a clownsuit?

[MadCat]

I randomly started reading pages in the 400's, this jumped out at me.

when do we fit ben ji for a clownsuit?

Wait until he catches up.

[420seriouscat69]

  http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=10765296

[sonofdaxjones]

What in the world.

[Pete]

As I understand it the Grant of Rights is different than a penalty fee in one major respect.  On the GOR, the conference HAS the money, and can simply not give it to the offending school.  On the penalty fee, the conference has to attempt to go take money from the offending school.

While its tied up in the court system, with a GOR the conference HAS the money and do with it what they please.

[p1k3]

I hope they go. Good grief. In hindsight all the Big 12 teams to leave have ended up being a good thing.

[DQ12]

I hope they go. Good grief. In hindsight all the Big 12 teams to leave have ended up being a good thing.

i think it would be horrible if ku left.  i'd hate them forever.  it would be the meanest thing they could ever do to Kansas State/the state of Kansas.

[p1k3]

I hope they go. Good grief. In hindsight all the Big 12 teams to leave have ended up being a good thing.

i think it would be horrible if ku left.  i'd hate them forever.  it would be the meanest thing they could ever do to Kansas State/the state of Kansas.

Would it really hurt us at all though?

[DQ12]

I hope they go. Good grief. In hindsight all the Big 12 teams to leave have ended up being a good thing.

i think it would be horrible if ku left.  i'd hate them forever.  it would be the meanest thing they could ever do to Kansas State/the state of Kansas.

Would it really hurt us at all though?

yeah.  for a lot of reasons.

[wabash909]

@Bob_Kizer: @scoJAYHAWK   trying to finalize conference exit fee with Big12. hard to keep it all straight. Especially who would team 16 be?

[wetwillie]

@Bob_Kizer: @scoJAYHAWK   trying to finalize conference exit fee with Big12. hard to keep it all straight. Especially who would team 16 be?

Don't know this kizer fellow, is he ku's dude?

[Panjandrum]

@Bob_Kizer: @scoJAYHAWK   trying to finalize conference exit fee with Big12. hard to keep it all straight. Especially who would team 16 be?

Don't know this kizer fellow, is he ku's dude?

He's just some financial advisor.

[MadCat]

Kizer Sose!

[EMAWmeister]

Honestly?  MWC is the only long term solution.   

NOPE.

[catzacker]

I don't know why people are laughing this off, of the rumored teams, ku is the one who is most likely to go (not that they were first choice but others will say no).

[EMAWmeister]

I don't know why people are laughing this off, of the rumored teams, ku is the one who is most likely to go (not that they were first choice but others will say no).

If KU leaves, they are dumber than we thought.

[kim carnes]

I don't know why people are laughing this off, of the rumored teams, ku is the one who is most likely to go (not that they were first choice but others will say no).

of all the teams that have left, ku is by far the least important to the success of this conference.  even less so than colorado.

[chum1]

I don't know why people are laughing this off, of the rumored teams, ku is the one who is most likely to go (not that they were first choice but others will say no).

I think they're stuck here.

[catzacker]

I don't know why people are laughing this off, of the rumored teams, ku is the one who is most likely to go (not that they were first choice but others will say no).

of all the teams that have left, ku is by far the least important to the success of this conference.  even less so than colorado.

if they left, it would set a horrible precedent.  essentially, the GOR would mean nothing.  it would provide no assurance for anyone and you're left with an unstable conference.  we're just assuming we'll be able to add FSU...but again, given the precedent, FSU could just wipe its ass with the GOR and walk away when the SEC came around.

[kim carnes]

I don't know why people are laughing this off, of the rumored teams, ku is the one who is most likely to go (not that they were first choice but others will say no).

of all the teams that have left, ku is by far the least important to the success of this conference.  even less so than colorado.

if they left, it would set a horrible precedent.  essentially, the GOR would mean nothing.  it would provide no assurance for anyone and you're left with an unstable conference.  we're just assuming we'll be able to add FSU...but again, given the precedent, FSU could just wipe its ass with the GOR and walk away when the SEC came around.

well, i guess i don't care.

[MakeItRain]

I don't know why people are laughing this off, of the rumored teams, ku is the one who is most likely to go (not that they were first choice but others will say no).

of all the teams that have left, ku is by far the least important to the success of this conference.  even less so than colorado.

if they left, it would set a horrible precedent.  essentially, the GOR would mean nothing.  it would provide no assurance for anyone and you're left with an unstable conference.  we're just assuming we'll be able to add FSU...but again, given the precedent, FSU could just wipe its ass with the GOR and walk away when the SEC came around.

Weird interpretation.  Of course you could leave with a GOR, no one ever contended that you couldn't.  You would also leave your money and ability to make any more TV money.  Look at what CU is going through, hemorrhaging cash but not making any.  Then imagine doing that for over a decade.  KU isn't leaving, the BOR isn't that dumb, I think.

[Pete]

If KU leaves, it fucks KSU in LOADS of ways.

Anyone playing it off as otherwise is either rough ridin' stupid, enormously jealous and hurt, or both.

[Pete]

I don't know why people are laughing this off, of the rumored teams, ku is the one who is most likely to go (not that they were first choice but others will say no).

of all the teams that have left, ku is by far the least important to the success of this conference.  even less so than colorado.

Weird interpretation.  Of course you could leave with a GOR, no one ever contended that you couldn't.  You would also leave your money and ability to make any more TV money.  Look at what CU is going through, hemorrhaging cash but not making any.  Then imagine doing that for over a decade.  KU isn't leaving, the BOR isn't that dumb, I think.

KU has the donors to recover from a GOR loss.  The Board of Regents is the only thing that could keep them if Dana Anderson, Anschutz, Compton, Ward, Hall, etc., want them to go.
if they left, it would set a horrible precedent.  essentially, the GOR would mean nothing.  it would provide no assurance for anyone and you're left with an unstable conference.  we're just assuming we'll be able to add FSU...but again, given the precedent, FSU could just wipe its ass with the GOR and walk away when the SEC came around.

[Stevesie60]

How much would it be worth the be the only relevant school in the state? 10 years of TV rights?