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« Reply #21650 on: September 04, 2012, 11:43:29 PM »
I've maintained a consistent approach.

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« Reply #21651 on: September 05, 2012, 02:30:00 PM »
I've maintained a consistent approach.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21652 on: September 05, 2012, 10:10:30 PM »
A&M is non-stop entertainment.  Mizzou was/is/always blah.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21653 on: September 06, 2012, 05:57:07 PM »
The Big 12 Conference, ABC/ESPN and Fox will announce a 13-year media rights deal Friday worth $2.6 billion, an average of $200 million per year and worth $20 million per school, industry sources told ESPN.

The Big 12's board of directors will formally vote on the new deal Friday morning, when they're expected to approve the package that will run through the 2024-25 school year.

ABC/ESPN and Fox will share the league's football inventory, while ABC/ESPN will be the exclusive provider for Big 12 men's basketball.

The new deal includes grant of rights, meaning if a Big 12 school leaves for another league in the next 13 years, that school's media rights, including revenue, would remain with the Big 12 and not their new conference.

When asked about the deal, ESPN had no comment.

The "grant of rights" agreement is huge for the Big 12's future stability. Just last year, it appeared the league would implode by losing Texas and Oklahoma to the Pac-12. However, both schools stayed. The Big 12 did lose Missouri and Texas A&M to the SEC, but replaced them this season with West Virginia and TCU.

The Big 12's $20 million per school average is slightly behind the Pac-12's $21 million per school media rights deal and on par with the Big Ten's per school average. The Big 12's new deal also will rank ahead of the SEC and ACC's per school averages -- at least for now. The SEC is expected to have a more lucrative deal in the coming months.

The Big 12's new deal means the Big 12 and Pac-12 are the only two conferences with telecast agreements with two over-the-air national networks in ABC and Fox.

The Big 12 joins the Big Ten and Pac-12 as the only conferences with "grant of rights" media deals.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21654 on: September 06, 2012, 06:08:16 PM »
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ABC/ESPN and Fox will share the league's football inventory, while ABC/ESPN will be the exclusive provider for Big 12 men's basketball.


Sounds like Fox may have got some tier one games out of the deal. Probably better for us as espn has tons of inventory, and well be on national tv more in good time slots on the fox stations.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21655 on: September 06, 2012, 06:09:02 PM »
So we are actually way ahead of the Big 10 with all our other crap that they don't get, right?  Like, does this include our old new fox deal?  and obviously not Tier 3.  How rich are we?  I want a chart showing how far above everyone we currently are for face rubbing in.

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« Reply #21656 on: September 06, 2012, 06:19:18 PM »
The floor is 30 million now. The new playoff money has to be figured out still but that's going to be huge.

Fb/bb tier one and two 20 million
Tier 3...3-5 million
Champions bowl 4 million
Other Big 12 bowls 2-3 million
Whatever we get from new playoff...???

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21657 on: September 06, 2012, 06:24:48 PM »
We're not making more than the pac-12?  CU wins again.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21658 on: September 06, 2012, 06:25:23 PM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21659 on: September 06, 2012, 06:49:34 PM »
Is this for tier 1 only or what the eff is this?  What a shitty, uninformative article

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21660 on: September 06, 2012, 06:57:37 PM »
We're not making more than the pac-12?  CU wins again.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21661 on: September 06, 2012, 07:20:07 PM »
No tier 3 in the Pac so still an opportunity to say suck it, CU

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« Reply #21662 on: September 06, 2012, 08:11:27 PM »
No tier 3 in the Pac so still an opportunity to say suck it, CU

The PAC's TV contracts are a little convoluted, but ESPN, FOX and the PAC 12 Networks all get to have some Tier 1, Tier 2 and Tier 3 games from the PAC.  The PAC 12 gets $21 million per year from ESPN/FOX, compared to $20 million for the Big 12.  The PAC 12 schools also get to share in the revenue from the PAC 12 network.  The revenue from those networks (7 total?) is expected to grow overtime, but many estimates put it at around $8-$10 million per school in a couple of years.  In the Big 12, it's every man for himself.  Small market teams like K-State are behind the 8-ball and will only get something like $3-$5 million per year from our Tier 3 rights.  Schools like Texas will get revenue that is comparable to the PAC 12 schools, but K-State will be several million behind.

The Big Ten is currently the richest conference and it will get to renegotiate its TV contract in about 3 years, at which point it will increase its lead on the Big 12.  Again, Texas will be making enough from the LHN to keep it in the range of what the Big Ten will get, but K-State will be millions behind.

The SEC is working on its Tier 1/Tier 2 contracts and is also planning to start an SEC network.  Once all of that is done, the SEC will likely have Tier 1/Tier 2 revenue of $20-$22 million (or more), plus revenue from its Tier 3 SEC network.  Again, revenue for Texas will be comparable, but K-State will be millions behind.

I think K-State is and will be ahead of all schools in the ACC ( and the Big East, MWC, etc, etc), so we have that going for us.

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« Reply #21663 on: September 06, 2012, 08:13:30 PM »
Sounds like the big 12's deal sucks guys  :frown:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21664 on: September 06, 2012, 08:21:18 PM »
Sounds like the big 12's deal sucks guys  :frown:

2 years ago we thought we were going to the mountain west, 1 year ago we thought we were going to the big east.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21665 on: September 06, 2012, 08:22:41 PM »
So we are actually way ahead of the Big 10 with all our other crap that they don't get, right?  Like, does this include our old new fox deal?  and obviously not Tier 3.  How rich are we?  I want a chart showing how far above everyone we currently are for face rubbing in.

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« Reply #21666 on: September 06, 2012, 08:24:00 PM »
Sounds like the big 12's deal sucks guys  :frown:

2 years ago we thought we were going to the mountain west, 1 year ago we thought we were going to the big east.

Yeah but just a couple months ago we were told the big 12 was super awesome and that we would all be super rich.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21667 on: September 06, 2012, 08:25:08 PM »
Guys, this kinda sucks, I doubt we will be able to ever poach anything besides loser Big East schools. #ten4ever

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« Reply #21668 on: September 06, 2012, 08:27:40 PM »
This rough ridin' sucks.  I thought we were in line to get 20 mil for our tier 1 rights alone.  What the eff happened?  Bowlsby screwed up

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21669 on: September 06, 2012, 08:32:55 PM »
This rough ridin' sucks.  I thought we were in line to get 20 mil for our tier 1 rights alone.  What the eff happened?  Bowlsby screwed up

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21670 on: September 06, 2012, 08:36:13 PM »
Utah gets more money than we do.  Utah.  I don't even know where Utah is.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21671 on: September 06, 2012, 08:39:51 PM »
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« Reply #21672 on: September 06, 2012, 08:46:27 PM »
I can't believe OU signed on for this. What a bunch of dumbasses.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21673 on: September 06, 2012, 08:57:29 PM »
Welp.  How bout dem Cardinoleyellowjacktigerclumps?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21674 on: September 06, 2012, 09:12:01 PM »
I agree it sucks we've still behind the PAC, but I don't know why you are panicking now, it's always been ~1.3B for T1 and ~1.2B for T2. If anything, all the delays from Bowlsby working deals between ABC/ESPN/Fox grew the deal an extra $100MM for the life of the contract, or ~$750k per team per year.
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