Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Pendergast]

Yes, we're safe.

Next question.

[LilSmokyMcIntyre]

 

Is it weird that I couldn't care less about any of this stuff?

Now that I know we're safe I don't either.

Are we really safe? 

What if we (the other schools in the Big 12) force an expansion down UT's throat that they don't necessarily want.  Such as adding FSU and Clemson now, and promising GT a spot when ND joins as a full member.  Texas could easily say "screw this" and do their own thing.  The Big 12 is still very vulnerable.  We like to talk about how it is ironclad because of the GOR, but it only takes 6 votes to dissolve the conference.  Poof, no GOR.  Poof, no buyouts.  Poof, no TV contract.

Texas can get Tech, OU, OSU, WVU and one other (KU?) to vote with them.  Then invite FSU, Clem, GT and ND.  They've got a 10 team league, just like they wanted.  A 10-team league with no deadweight in the form of redundant schools or small fanbases (TCU, BU, KSU, ISU).  That hypothetical 10-team league is worth just as much to ABC/ESPN/FOX as the 14-team league with TCU/BU/KSU/ISU added in.  What's to stop Texas and its friends from doing this?  FSU wouldn't mind if they didn't have regular trips to Ames, MHK, Waco on their schedule. Neither would ND.  They'd be fine with such an arrangement.

Texas only has one vote, but I think it's in our best interests to figure out what Texas wants and then vote that way.  If that means inviting FSU and then waiting at 11 until ND is available, so be it.  If that means staying at 10 forever, so be it.  If that means expanding to 12 now with FSU and Clem then expanding to 14 later with ND and GT, so be it.  Whatever Texas wants, that's what we want.

 

[Ira Hayes]

Whatever Texas wants, that's what we want.

Yes.  And I think it is very realistic that we don't want Florida State or Clemson.  At least not now.  They will be far more desperate in a year or two.  As will Notre Dame. Just wait until they really know how much money they are missing out on.

These things can take some time. We are now confirmed as one of the four power football conferences.  Even with just 10 schools.  What is the benefit to us if we add new members?

[06wildcat]

What don't you fucks understand about ND not joining unless the ACC is gone?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Whatever Texas wants, that's what we want.

Yes.  And I think it is very realistic that we don't want Florida State or Clemson.  At least not now.  They will be far more desperate in a year or two.  As will Notre Dame. Just wait until they really know how much money they are missing out on.

These things can take some time. We are now confirmed as one of the four power football conferences.  Even with just 10 schools.  What is the benefit to us if we add new members?

Kansas State playing annual games on ABC against FSU and Clemson seems like a pretty rough ridin' big deal to me.

[SkinnyBenny]

Whatever Texas wants, that's what we want.

Yes.  And I think it is very realistic that we don't want Florida State or Clemson.  At least not now.  They will be far more desperate in a year or two.  As will Notre Dame. Just wait until they really know how much money they are missing out on.

These things can take some time. We are now confirmed as one of the four power football conferences.  Even with just 10 schools.  What is the benefit to us if we add new members?

No, denied. A year ago the Big 12 was as good as dead. We were Ken Starr-ing aTm to make them stay because we were so desperate. A lot can change in a year. Lots of curve balls can be thrown. Jump on it immediately.

[Ira Hayes]

What don't you fucks understand about ND not joining unless the ACC is gone?

The ACC is gone.  Did you miss last Friday?

[wetwillie]

What don't you fucks understand about ND not joining unless the ACC is gone?

The ACC is gone.  Did you miss last Friday?

[Pete]

What don't you fucks understand about ND not joining unless the ACC is gone?

All of it.  I don't understand all of it.


They get more power (relative to their conference mates), money, and publicity if they join the Big 12.  Those three things are kinda big, IMO.

[Ira Hayes]

Whatever Texas wants, that's what we want.

Yes.  And I think it is very realistic that we don't want Florida State or Clemson.  At least not now.  They will be far more desperate in a year or two.  As will Notre Dame. Just wait until they really know how much money they are missing out on.

These things can take some time. We are now confirmed as one of the four power football conferences.  Even with just 10 schools.  What is the benefit to us if we add new members?

No, denied. A year ago the Big 12 was as good as dead. We were Ken Starr-ing aTm to make them stay because we were so desperate. A lot can change in a year. Lots of curve balls can be thrown. Jump on it immediately.

We have a bowl deal with the SEC for at least the next five years.  We are big time.  This is real.

You must be a short person with a small penis and low self asteem.

[SkinnyBenny]

Whatever Texas wants, that's what we want.

Yes.  And I think it is very realistic that we don't want Florida State or Clemson.  At least not now.  They will be far more desperate in a year or two.  As will Notre Dame. Just wait until they really know how much money they are missing out on.

These things can take some time. We are now confirmed as one of the four power football conferences.  Even with just 10 schools.  What is the benefit to us if we add new members?

No, denied. A year ago the Big 12 was as good as dead. We were Ken Starr-ing aTm to make them stay because we were so desperate. A lot can change in a year. Lots of curve balls can be thrown. Jump on it immediately.

We have a bowl deal with the SEC for at least the next five years.  We are big time.  This is real.

You must be a short person with a small penis and low self asteem.

lol

[Ira Hayes]

I understand that the reality we are facing stretches the imagination...

But if nothing else changes, in 3-4 years Iowa State's program will be making $10-20 Million more per year than Notre Dame's.

Now does it make sense?

[Ira Hayes]

Whatever Texas wants, that's what we want.

Yes.  And I think it is very realistic that we don't want Florida State or Clemson.  At least not now.  They will be far more desperate in a year or two.  As will Notre Dame. Just wait until they really know how much money they are missing out on.

These things can take some time. We are now confirmed as one of the four power football conferences.  Even with just 10 schools.  What is the benefit to us if we add new members?

No, denied. A year ago the Big 12 was as good as dead. We were Ken Starr-ing aTm to make them stay because we were so desperate. A lot can change in a year. Lots of curve balls can be thrown. Jump on it immediately.

We have a bowl deal with the SEC for at least the next five years.  We are big time.  This is real.

You must be a short person with a small penis and low self ass team.

lol

FMP

[Dugout DickStone]

The Missouri Meltdown

[Katpappy]

Happy thoughts guys.  Whatever ole Deloss Dodds wants he gets.  FSU, Clemson and ND are big time.  We're not the Big 8 anymore.   

[Panjandrum]

What don't you fucks understand about ND not joining unless the ACC is gone?

What don't you understand about the ACC's lack of relevance in the new world order?

[Panjandrum]

The Missouri Meltdown

I'll love being at Ground Zero for this.

[Panjandrum]

Listening to Neinas on College Football Live.  What a boss.

Just an amazing man.  He said nothing, but he said everything.  Ya know?

[WildcatNkilt]

The Missouri Meltdown

I'll love being at Ground Zero for this.

All this conference realignment crap the past few years has really made me understand the hate Beems
and his cronies have for Mizzou.  They really are the worst.

[jmlynch1]

Can someone explain to the mouthbreathers why we need to TKO the ACC? Our fanbase acts like this and then wonders why Frank goes to S. Carolina.

[SkinnyBenny]

Ya, I had no idea who Neinas was when they first announced he would be the interim and now I want him forever. What are the odds that Bowlsby could possibly be as much of a badass as him?

[Super PurpleCat]

Is it weird that I couldn't care less about any of this stuff?

Now that I know we're safe I don't either.

Are we really safe? 

What if we (the other schools in the Big 12) force an expansion down UT's throat that they don't necessarily want.  Such as adding FSU and Clemson now, and promising GT a spot when ND joins as a full member.  Texas could easily say "screw this" and do their own thing.  The Big 12 is still very vulnerable.  We like to talk about how it is ironclad because of the GOR, but it only takes 6 votes to dissolve the conference.  Poof, no GOR.  Poof, no buyouts.  Poof, no TV contract.

Texas can get Tech, OU, OSU, WVU and one other (KU?) to vote with them.  Then invite FSU, Clem, GT and ND.  They've got a 10 team league, just like they wanted.  A 10-team league with no deadweight in the form of redundant schools or small fanbases (TCU, BU, KSU, ISU).  That hypothetical 10-team league is worth just as much to ABC/ESPN/FOX as the 14-team league with TCU/BU/KSU/ISU added in.  What's to stop Texas and its friends from doing this?  FSU wouldn't mind if they didn't have regular trips to Ames, MHK, Waco on their schedule. Neither would ND.  They'd be fine with such an arrangement.

Texas only has one vote, but I think it's in our best interests to figure out what Texas wants and then vote that way.  If that means inviting FSU and then waiting at 11 until ND is available, so be it.  If that means staying at 10 forever, so be it.  If that means expanding to 12 now with FSU and Clem then expanding to 14 later with ND and GT, so be it.  Whatever Texas wants, that's what we want.

Hey Mr. Paranoid: they could've done this at any point in the last two years, or any year since 1996 but they didn't.

Relax.  Puff puff pass.

[DQ12]

Can someone explain to the mouthbreathers why we need to TKO the ACC? Our fanbase acts like this and then wonders why Frank goes to S. Carolina.

We don't need to do anything.

[WildcatNkilt]

Any new Big 12 logo should include Neinas' face. 

[Panjandrum]

What are the odds that Bowlsby could possibly be as much of a badass as him?

High.