Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[CNS]

Here is my understanding.  It is probably wrong, as I really don't read much on this anymore:

WVU and Big East suit ended in Judge saying they both need to take their asses to non-binding arbitration to resolve their issues with WVU leaving.

As I am sure Pete knows, Non-binding arbitration puts both parties in a room with a arbitrator to act as a go between and to help negotiate the issue between the two parties to a common ground resolution.  However, since it is non-binding, they can spend all that time and energy, come up with a common ground resolution, shake hands, then immediately tell everyone to eff off as they leave the room and that they changed their mind, but thanks for the free lunch and drinks.

At that point, it is back to square one = current conference agreement would be the only binding agreement standing.

[jtksu]

So, the judge and mediator both, basically, told them to figure it out on their own?  Doesn't someone, eventually, have to settle this issue without simply passing it on to someone else?

[CNS]

No.  There is an agreement in place(conf agreement).  They both agreed to it.  No one HAS to budge on that.

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[jtksu]

No, I meant the judge/mediator.  Just seems like a lawsuit would eventually have to end in something other than "figure it out yourselves." 

[felix rex]

UConn just has to be beside themselves.

I picture them full of indignation, gesturing wildly about bball status and BCS games everyone made fun of at the time, adamantly insisting to everyone that they have options, a national following, and will be a prize for any conference.

[CNS]

So, the judge and mediator both, basically, told them to figure it out on their own?  Doesn't someone, eventually, have to settle this issue without simply passing it on to someone else?

Also, the arbitrator hasn't said that.  The judge just ordered it a day or two ago so the arbitration prob hasn't taken place yet.

Again, there may be more to this.  I haven't been keeping very close track.

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[CNS]

No, I meant the judge/mediator.  Just seems like a lawsuit would eventually have to end in something other than "figure it out yourselves." 

This is prob a good time for the resident lawyers to kick in, but it is my understanding that it is common for a judge to do all that they can to make two parties of a civil disagreement do all they can to work it out on their own since the judge has no skin in the game yet their judgement is binding legally. 

I would sure think that this will end back up in front of the judge.

[jtksu]

My bad, I thought mediation had already occured.

[MadCat]

Time to merge the Big 12 with the Big East and mercilessly axe the new schools we don't want (hopefully not K-State)

[Dugout DickStone]

If they don't eventually settle it at a mediation, it will have to eventually go to trial.  Unless the agreement they all signed contains a "binding arbitration clause" in which case an arbitrator or arbitrator panel will decide it.

Court ordered mediation doesn't mean anything except the judge told them to try and settle it on their own terms or someone, jury or arbitrator, will settle it beyond their control.

Or so this is what BSAC told me.

[Panjandrum]

If they don't eventually settle it at a mediation, it will have to eventually go to trial.  Unless the agreement they all signed contains a "binding arbitration clause" in which case an arbitrator or arbitrator panel will decide it.

Court ordered mediation doesn't mean anything except the judge told them to try and settle it on their own terms or someone, jury or arbitrator, will settle it beyond their control.

Or so this is what BSAC told me.

This is the kind of analysis I expect from goEMAW.com.

[CyberToothCat]

If they don't eventually settle it at a mediation, it will have to eventually go to trial.  Unless the agreement they all signed contains a "binding arbitration clause" in which case an arbitrator or arbitrator panel will decide it.

Court ordered mediation doesn't mean anything except the judge told them to try and settle it on their own terms or someone, jury or arbitrator, will settle it beyond their control.

Or so this is what BSAC told me.

I don't see how WVU can possibly be in the Big 12 next year.  WVU is leaving the Big East; there's no question about that.  The only issue is WHEN will WVU leave the Big East?  All the Big East has to do is continue to drag its feet until we finally reach the point that it just isn't feasible for WVU to be in the Big 12 next year.  At some point in the very near future, all of these schools will be starting their football season ticket renewals.  It's difficult for athletic departments to tell their ticket holders what the schedule will look like if the schools don't know what the schedules will look like.  All the Big East has to do is delay everything until the Big 12 finally reaches the point that it has to move forward with 9 schools next year.

I don't think WVU can risk just simply walking away from the Big East this year with the expectation of figuring out how much it will cost after they've already gone.  Meaning, they can't tell the Big East to go eff themselves and release their 2012 Big 12 schedule in Feb, and then meet in front of a judge in Apr and find out that the price tag is far more than they expected/can afford.

WVU has to wait until there is some sort of binding decision that tells them what the price tag is.  The Big East has to delay until the Big 12 can't afford to keep waiting on WVU.  It seems to me that the Big East has the upper hand here, simply because WVU's window of opportunity is so short.

[ben ji]

If they don't eventually settle it at a mediation, it will have to eventually go to trial.  Unless the agreement they all signed contains a "binding arbitration clause" in which case an arbitrator or arbitrator panel will decide it.

Court ordered mediation doesn't mean anything except the judge told them to try and settle it on their own terms or someone, jury or arbitrator, will settle it beyond their control.

Or so this is what BSAC told me.

I don't see how WVU can possibly be in the Big 12 next year.  WVU is leaving the Big East; there's no question about that.  The only issue is WHEN will WVU leave the Big East?  All the Big East has to do is continue to drag its feet until we finally reach the point that it just isn't feasible for WVU to be in the Big 12 next year.  At some point in the very near future, all of these schools will be starting their football season ticket renewals.  It's difficult for athletic departments to tell their ticket holders what the schedule will look like if the schools don't know what the schedules will look like.  All the Big East has to do is delay everything until the Big 12 finally reaches the point that it has to move forward with 9 schools next year.

I don't think WVU can risk just simply walking away from the Big East this year with the expectation of figuring out how much it will cost after they've already gone.  Meaning, they can't tell the Big East to go eff themselves and release their 2012 Big 12 schedule in Feb, and then meet in front of a judge in Apr and find out that the price tag is far more than they expected/can afford.

WVU has to wait until there is some sort of binding decision that tells them what the price tag is.  The Big East has to delay until the Big 12 can't afford to keep waiting on WVU.  It seems to me that the Big East has the upper hand here, simply because WVU's window of opportunity is so short.

WV has already thrown all their luggage off the titanic and renamed their lifeboat(see bball practice gym). I doubt they are going to sit around and bullshit with the captain about how much they owe for jumping ship when there wont be a ship or anyone to collect a year or two from now.

As soon as WV gets in the lifeboat and pushes away Louisville and Rutgers jump ship as well and start swimming like hell after the life boat. UConn and Cincy will be floating around the open ocean on wooden door trying to knock each other in the ocean to save their own life.

There will literally be no one left to try and collect any money from WV, the Big East is dead.

[Katpappy]

If they don't eventually settle it at a mediation, it will have to eventually go to trial.  Unless the agreement they all signed contains a "binding arbitration clause" in which case an arbitrator or arbitrator panel will decide it.

Court ordered mediation doesn't mean anything except the judge told them to try and settle it on their own terms or someone, jury or arbitrator, will settle it beyond their control.

Or so this is what BSAC told me.

I don't see how WVU can possibly be in the Big 12 next year.  WVU is leaving the Big East; there's no question about that.  The only issue is WHEN will WVU leave the Big East?  All the Big East has to do is continue to drag its feet until we finally reach the point that it just isn't feasible for WVU to be in the Big 12 next year.  At some point in the very near future, all of these schools will be starting their football season ticket renewals.  It's difficult for athletic departments to tell their ticket holders what the schedule will look like if the schools don't know what the schedules will look like.  All the Big East has to do is delay everything until the Big 12 finally reaches the point that it has to move forward with 9 schools next year.

I don't think WVU can risk just simply walking away from the Big East this year with the expectation of figuring out how much it will cost after they've already gone.  Meaning, they can't tell the Big East to go eff themselves and release their 2012 Big 12 schedule in Feb, and then meet in front of a judge in Apr and find out that the price tag is far more than they expected/can afford.

WVU has to wait until there is some sort of binding decision that tells them what the price tag is.  The Big East has to delay until the Big 12 can't afford to keep waiting on WVU.  It seems to me that the Big East has the upper hand here, simply because WVU's window of opportunity is so short.

No Denied.  The cost of us potentially losing our tier II contract with Fox, if we don't have the minimum 10 teams for next year, would be too costly to let this happen.  We will have WVU & TCU this year.  When tier I contract negations start, we will hopefully invite Louisville & Notre Dame.  Big East will mearge with CUSA and will still be Big East or some variation of it.

[CNS]

WVU is gonna be here next yr regardless.  If nothing else, they will pull a Missouri, say eff it, leave, schedule w/ new league, all while penalties are being lawyered out. 

Our conf has too much financial interest in the balance to let it go down any other way.

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[ednksu]

I was just going to ask, what is really stopping WVU from saying eff it, we're out, fine us later.  Would the NCAA actually attempt to step in and void schedules or attack a conference head on?

[CNS]

I was just going to ask, what is really stopping WVU from saying eff it, we're out, fine us later.  Would the NCAA actually attempt to step in and void schedules or attack a conference head on?

Schedules would be played, I have no doubt of that.  However, I am assuming that any contract between conference and it's members that limits the amount of warning needed to leave would also state penalties for failing to do so.  So, if no further or additional agreement is made btwn conf and WVU, the existing contract would be enforced.  I don't know what their current contract says about penalties, but I believe it is somewhat light.  I say that because after this WVU to Bi12 thing started the Big East reconvened and voted to change their exit penalties by double.

[Dugout DickStone]

If they don't eventually settle it at a mediation, it will have to eventually go to trial.  Unless the agreement they all signed contains a "binding arbitration clause" in which case an arbitrator or arbitrator panel will decide it.

Court ordered mediation doesn't mean anything except the judge told them to try and settle it on their own terms or someone, jury or arbitrator, will settle it beyond their control.

Or so this is what BSAC told me.

I don't see how WVU can possibly be in the Big 12 next year.  WVU is leaving the Big East; there's no question about that.  The only issue is WHEN will WVU leave the Big East?  All the Big East has to do is continue to drag its feet until we finally reach the point that it just isn't feasible for WVU to be in the Big 12 next year.  At some point in the very near future, all of these schools will be starting their football season ticket renewals.  It's difficult for athletic departments to tell their ticket holders what the schedule will look like if the schools don't know what the schedules will look like.  All the Big East has to do is delay everything until the Big 12 finally reaches the point that it has to move forward with 9 schools next year.

I don't think WVU can risk just simply walking away from the Big East this year with the expectation of figuring out how much it will cost after they've already gone.  Meaning, they can't tell the Big East to go eff themselves and release their 2012 Big 12 schedule in Feb, and then meet in front of a judge in Apr and find out that the price tag is far more than they expected/can afford.

WVU has to wait until there is some sort of binding decision that tells them what the price tag is.  The Big East has to delay until the Big 12 can't afford to keep waiting on WVU.  It seems to me that the Big East has the upper hand here, simply because WVU's window of opportunity is so short.

Would be funny to have WVU win that dogcrap confy again on the way out.

[60scat]

Time to resurrect this thread.

Any new info on WVU and other possible conference members.

Also, shouldn't it be about time to start on scheduling.

[steve dave]

I think the tentative plan is wvu to take mu's confy schedule and tcu to take aTm's

[Deez Nutz]

I think the tentative plan is wvu to take mu's confy schedule and tcu to take aTm's

Yeah, but they will definitely tweek it somewhat.  For instance, Texas does not want to play TCU on the Thanksgiving weekend.

["storm"nut]

I think the tentative plan is wvu to take mu's confy schedule and tcu to take aTm's

Yeah, but they will definitely tweek it somewhat.  For instance, Texas does not want to play TCU on the Thanksgiving weekend.

latest from Chip, this was the plan.

[SwiftCat]

West Virginia will play football in the Big 12 conference next season #ITK

[ben ji]

West Virginia will play football in the Big 12 conference next season #ITK

Hey guyz this swiftcat is tots in the know.

Do you have ESPN insider or something?

[Katpappy]

West Virginia will play football in the Big 12 conference next season #ITK

To much at stake for the Big XII to have WV not be in the 2012 schedule.  #MHCSO(myhumblecommonsenseopinion)