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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #17175 on: October 28, 2011, 12:08:46 PM »
Love WVU.  The problem I have is that I feel UT made the decision to add WVU and pass on Louisville.  Not the Conference, collectively.  

Like Pickens said:  Texas is going to have to look like the rest of us in the Big 12 instead of looking like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

I think that the majority of the 8 remaining members would prefer to be in Divisions.  UT, OU on one side.  OSU, BU, Tech, KU, KSU, ISU on the other side.  And the only way we get to Divisions is if we have 12 members.  

I don't buy the fact that we are richer at 10 schools than at 12 schools.  

There is a reason that every power conference is trying to get to 16 schools and expand their TV footprint.  There's a reason that Big10 went to 12 to get a Championship game.  

Yet, here we sit at 10, and UT and OU are better served than the rest of us.  It's the same old crap.  


Hopefully, wVu comes into the conference with a, "Texas who? We march to our own drummer" attitude.

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« Reply #17176 on: October 28, 2011, 12:26:57 PM »

We know Louisville is going to be available.  They're not going to the SEC or ACC.  We can take our time now and work the BYU/Notre Dame angle (if that is preferable) and if and when the time is right make the play for Louisville to fill out the league.


First, I don't think we know Louisville will be available.  Maybe a move to ACC/SEC isn't likely.  But, a year ago, I would have said WVU or TCU in the BigXII was unlikely.  A lot can change in a year.  History has proven as much.  

I don't think a UCONN/Louisville package to the ACC is unforseeable.  ACC is a basketball conference and LVille fits perfectly.

Second, we can all agree that destroying the BigEast is in our best interest.  WVU is probably the death knell.  But LVille is definately the death knell.  

Lastly, if we are going to be shopping for 2 schools in the next few years, we won't find a better fit than LVille.  So, just take them now.  While they're available.  And stop rough ridin' around.        

Notre Dame ain't gonna happen.  Sorry.  If these guys ever decide their football team needs a conference, they're going Big10 and Big10 would do anythign to get em.    


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #17177 on: October 28, 2011, 12:29:40 PM »

We know Louisville is going to be available.  They're not going to the SEC or ACC.  We can take our time now and work the BYU/Notre Dame angle (if that is preferable) and if and when the time is right make the play for Louisville to fill out the league.


First, I don't think we know Louisville will be available.  Maybe a move to ACC/SEC isn't likely.  But, a year ago, I would have said WVU or TCU in the BigXII was unlikely.  A lot can change in a year.  History has proven as much.  

I don't think a UCONN/Louisville package to the ACC is unforseeable.  ACC is a basketball conference and LVille fits perfectly.

Second, we can all agree that destroying the BigEast is in our best interest.  WVU is probably the death knell.  But LVille is definately the death knell.  

Lastly, if we are going to be shopping for 2 schools in the next few years, we won't find a better fit than LVille.  So, just take them now.  While they're available.  And stop rough ridin' around.        

Notre Dame ain't gonna happen.  Sorry.  If these guys ever decide their football team needs a conference, they're going Big10 and Big10 would do anythign to get em.    



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« Reply #17178 on: October 28, 2011, 12:31:19 PM »
Love WVU.  The problem I have is that I feel UT made the decision to add WVU and pass on Louisville.  Not the Conference, collectively.  

Like Pickens said:  Texas is going to have to look like the rest of us in the Big 12 instead of looking like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

I think that the majority of the 8 remaining members would prefer to be in Divisions.  UT, OU on one side.  OSU, BU, Tech, KU, KSU, ISU on the other side.  And the only way we get to Divisions is if we have 12 members.  

I don't buy the fact that we are richer at 10 schools than at 12 schools.  

There is a reason that every power conference is trying to get to 16 schools and expand their TV footprint.  There's a reason that Big10 went to 12 to get a Championship game.  

Yet, here we sit at 10, and UT and OU are better served than the rest of us.  It's the same old crap.  

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« Reply #17179 on: October 28, 2011, 12:37:00 PM »

We know Louisville is going to be available.  They're not going to the SEC or ACC.  We can take our time now and work the BYU/Notre Dame angle (if that is preferable) and if and when the time is right make the play for Louisville to fill out the league.


First, I don't think we know Louisville will be available.  Maybe a move to ACC/SEC isn't likely.  But, a year ago, I would have said WVU or TCU in the BigXII was unlikely.  A lot can change in a year.  History has proven as much.  

I don't think a UCONN/Louisville package to the ACC is unforseeable.  ACC is a basketball conference and LVille fits perfectly.

Second, we can all agree that destroying the BigEast is in our best interest.  WVU is probably the death knell.  But LVille is definately the death knell.  

Lastly, if we are going to be shopping for 2 schools in the next few years, we won't find a better fit than LVille.  So, just take them now.  While they're available.  And stop rough ridin' around.        

Notre Dame ain't gonna happen.  Sorry.  If these guys ever decide their football team needs a conference, they're going Big10 and Big10 would do anythign to get em.    



If Notre Dame ends up playing football in a conference, I think the ACC is more likely than the Big 10.

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« Reply #17180 on: October 28, 2011, 12:37:25 PM »
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« Reply #17181 on: October 28, 2011, 01:29:29 PM »
Love WVU.  The problem I have is that I feel UT made the decision to add WVU and pass on Louisville.  Not the Conference, collectively.  

Like Pickens said:  Texas is going to have to look like the rest of us in the Big 12 instead of looking like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

I think that the majority of the 8 remaining members would prefer to be in Divisions.  UT, OU on one side.  OSU, BU, Tech, KU, KSU, ISU on the other side.  And the only way we get to Divisions is if we have 12 members.  

I don't buy the fact that we are richer at 10 schools than at 12 schools.  

There is a reason that every power conference is trying to get to 16 schools and expand their TV footprint.  There's a reason that Big10 went to 12 to get a Championship game.  

Yet, here we sit at 10, and UT and OU are better served than the rest of us.  It's the same old crap.  

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #17182 on: October 28, 2011, 01:54:51 PM »
...and the band plays on
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #17183 on: October 28, 2011, 01:59:14 PM »
Anyone have any word on grant of rights?  The way I'm reading the statement, UT caved on the 10 years in order to get WVU and stay at 10.

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« Reply #17184 on: October 28, 2011, 02:00:13 PM »
Louisville sucks. S. Florida all the way.

This bitching thread is going to smoke 700 pages. So epic. Someone needs to write a book based on it.

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« Reply #17185 on: October 28, 2011, 02:01:19 PM »
It could be like the Twilight series!  :runaway:

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« Reply #17186 on: October 28, 2011, 02:04:10 PM »
God damnit. I want 12.

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« Reply #17187 on: October 28, 2011, 02:07:22 PM »
Anyone have any word on grant of rights?  The way I'm reading the statement, UT caved on the 10 years in order to get WVU and stay at 10.

quote/link please.

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« Reply #17188 on: October 28, 2011, 02:08:08 PM »
Anyone have any word on grant of rights?  The way I'm reading the statement, UT caved on the 10 years in order to get WVU and stay at 10.

if true. looks like Texas saved the conference once again.  thank god they put up w/ us  :love:

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« Reply #17189 on: October 28, 2011, 02:09:44 PM »
Anyone have any word on grant of rights?  The way I'm reading the statement, UT caved on the 10 years in order to get WVU and stay at 10.

quote/link please.

I was wrong, it was a quote from a source, not a statement.


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The hold up, according to a source familiar with the Board meetings, was to further consider Louisville's candidacy. The source said Oklahoma president David Boren wanted to make a pitch for the Cardinals.

However, according to a source close to Boren, the president wasn't in disagreement with others, including Texas, on expansion or grant of rights. It was believed Texas wanted six years and Oklahoma at least 10.

"Our schools are in agreement on expansion and grant of rights," the source told The Star.

Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2183#ixzz1c6ZyVMLl

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2183

Now, I read that source as UT caving on 10 years.

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« Reply #17190 on: October 28, 2011, 02:13:48 PM »
Anyone have any word on grant of rights?  The way I'm reading the statement, UT caved on the 10 years in order to get WVU and stay at 10.

quote/link please.

I was wrong, it was a quote from a source, not a statement.


Quote
The hold up, according to a source familiar with the Board meetings, was to further consider Louisville's candidacy. The source said Oklahoma president David Boren wanted to make a pitch for the Cardinals.

However, according to a source close to Boren, the president wasn't in disagreement with others, including Texas, on expansion or grant of rights. It was believed Texas wanted six years and Oklahoma at least 10.

"Our schools are in agreement on expansion and grant of rights," the source told The Star.

Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2183#ixzz1c6ZyVMLl

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2183

Now, I read that source as UT caving on 10 years.

I like the 10yr thing if true.  May be worth the only 10 teams thing.

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« Reply #17191 on: October 28, 2011, 02:15:14 PM »
Anyone have any word on grant of rights?  The way I'm reading the statement, UT caved on the 10 years in order to get WVU and stay at 10.

quote/link please.

I was wrong, it was a quote from a source, not a statement.


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The hold up, according to a source familiar with the Board meetings, was to further consider Louisville's candidacy. The source said Oklahoma president David Boren wanted to make a pitch for the Cardinals.

However, according to a source close to Boren, the president wasn't in disagreement with others, including Texas, on expansion or grant of rights. It was believed Texas wanted six years and Oklahoma at least 10.

"Our schools are in agreement on expansion and grant of rights," the source told The Star.

Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2183#ixzz1c6ZyVMLl

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2183

Now, I read that source as UT caving on 10 years.

I like the 10yr thing if true.  May be worth the only 10 teams thing.

Umm hell yes.  10 years is the best possible outcome. 

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #17192 on: October 28, 2011, 02:16:05 PM »
Can we change the name of this silly thread?  As 8man alluded to, this ship is not sinking.


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« Reply #17193 on: October 28, 2011, 02:16:42 PM »
Can we change the name of this silly thread?  As 8man alluded to, this ship is not sinking.

No, denied.  It stands on its own now.  The message is not found in the title.  

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« Reply #17194 on: October 28, 2011, 02:16:49 PM »
Anyone have any word on grant of rights?  The way I'm reading the statement, UT caved on the 10 years in order to get WVU and stay at 10.

quote/link please.

I was wrong, it was a quote from a source, not a statement.


Quote
The hold up, according to a source familiar with the Board meetings, was to further consider Louisville's candidacy. The source said Oklahoma president David Boren wanted to make a pitch for the Cardinals.

However, according to a source close to Boren, the president wasn't in disagreement with others, including Texas, on expansion or grant of rights. It was believed Texas wanted six years and Oklahoma at least 10.

"Our schools are in agreement on expansion and grant of rights," the source told The Star.

Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2183#ixzz1c6ZyVMLl

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2183

Now, I read that source as UT caving on 10 years.

I like the 10yr thing if true.  May be worth the only 10 teams thing.

Hell, yes that would be worth it.  Didn't MU want 10 as part of them staying put??

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« Reply #17195 on: October 28, 2011, 02:18:17 PM »
This shall always be the cigars thread to me.

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« Reply #17196 on: October 28, 2011, 02:20:34 PM »
Can we change the name of this silly thread?  As 8man alluded to, this ship is not sinking.

If we can call a 10 school conference the Big 12 we sure as crap can keep calling this the smoke your cigars thread.

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« Reply #17197 on: October 28, 2011, 02:32:57 PM »
Sorry other big east teams.  Hope everything works out.

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« Reply #17198 on: October 28, 2011, 02:38:42 PM »
Can we change the name of this silly thread?  As 8man alluded to, this ship is not sinking.

If we can call a 10 school conference the Big 12 we sure as crap can keep calling this the smoke your cigars thread.
Ok, limestone.


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« Reply #17199 on: October 28, 2011, 03:17:19 PM »
Can we change the name of this silly thread?  As 8man alluded to, this ship is not sinking.

If we can call a 10 school conference the Big 12 we sure as crap can keep calling this the smoke your cigars thread.
Ok, limestone.

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