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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14800 on: September 29, 2011, 02:52:47 PM »
http://www.footballrumormill.com/2011/09/29/report-byu-louisville-cincinnati-west-virginia-to-join-big-12/
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Report: BYU, TCU, Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia to join Big 12

BearcatLair.com reports “there are still a lot of details to be worked out as it relates to divisional breakouts, when new league would start play, etc.,” but the Big 12 appears to be moving toward 14 teams. The report says BYU, TCU, Louisville, Cincinnati and West Virginia would join current Big 12 members.
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Good move to future proof the conference when/if UT leaves.  We can claim TCU's TVs to include DFW when negotiating with espn/fox.  
BYU national following, UL, Nati and WVU are decent markets.  All schools moving money into their respective programs.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14801 on: September 29, 2011, 02:56:47 PM »
if Big 12 goes 14 with Mizzou staying and adding BYU, TCU, WV, UL, & UC that means we are utlimately forcing SEC to go after an ACC team to get to 14 or force SEC to go for Houston or USF.

Something like that.

I think we're just trying to solidify, as a group, that we're going to remain a power conference.

If 14 is the number, so be it.

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« Reply #14802 on: September 29, 2011, 02:57:11 PM »
if Big 12 goes 14 with Mizzou staying and adding BYU, TCU, WV, UL, & UC that means we are utlimately forcing SEC to go after an ACC team to get to 14 or force SEC to go for Houston or USF.


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« Reply #14803 on: September 29, 2011, 02:58:04 PM »
http://www.footballrumormill.com/2011/09/29/report-byu-louisville-cincinnati-west-virginia-to-join-big-12/
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Report: BYU, TCU, Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia to join Big 12

BearcatLair.com reports “there are still a lot of details to be worked out as it relates to divisional breakouts, when new league would start play, etc.,” but the Big 12 appears to be moving toward 14 teams. The report says BYU, TCU, Louisville, Cincinnati and West Virginia would join current Big 12 members.
References a premium site though.  :flush:

Good move to future proof the conference when/if UT leaves.  We can claim TCU's TVs to include DFW when negotiating with espn/fox.  
BYU national following, UL, Nati and WVU are decent markets.  All schools moving money into their respective programs.

I think this year proves Texas isn't going anywhere.

I don't know why people keep acting like they're going to go Indy.  That's the worst possible outcome for any school.  Notre Dame just does it because it's who they are.  Washington State has a better looking balance sheet from TV revenue than they do at this point.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14804 on: September 29, 2011, 03:00:50 PM »
http://www.footballrumormill.com/2011/09/29/report-byu-louisville-cincinnati-west-virginia-to-join-big-12/
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Report: BYU, TCU, Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia to join Big 12

BearcatLair.com reports “there are still a lot of details to be worked out as it relates to divisional breakouts, when new league would start play, etc.,” but the Big 12 appears to be moving toward 14 teams. The report says BYU, TCU, Louisville, Cincinnati and West Virginia would join current Big 12 members.
References a premium site though.  :flush:

Good move to future proof the conference when/if UT leaves.  We can claim TCU's TVs to include DFW when negotiating with espn/fox.  
BYU national following, UL, Nati and WVU are decent markets.  All schools moving money into their respective programs.

I think this year proves Texas isn't going anywhere.

I don't know why people keep acting like they're going to go Indy.  That's the worst possible outcome for any school.  Notre Dame just does it because it's who they are.  Washington State has a better looking balance sheet from TV revenue than they do at this point.
I think one thing is clear, Texas is willing to cut off its nose to spite its face.  Texas will do whatever Texas thinks is for its best interest in the short term.

I don't think they should leave or will (because every other conference has told the LHN to GTFO). 

I think TCU provides a modicum of TV leverage if they do leave.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14805 on: September 29, 2011, 03:29:52 PM »
« Last Edit: September 29, 2011, 03:32:07 PM by steve dave »

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« Reply #14807 on: September 29, 2011, 03:39:26 PM »
Using Clay Travis math, this is the potential population of people in the Big 12 footprint.  Considering that WVU has a sizeable fan base in DC and Pittsburgh, I threw all of DC and Pitt into the viewing area.  Louisville is on the Indiana border too, so I'm sure there are Louisville fans there too.  Again, using Clay Travis math/logic.

West   
Texas           25,145,561
Oklahoma    3,751,351
Utah                   2,763,885
Total            31,660,797
   
East   
Kansas           2,853,118
Iowa           3,046,355
Missouri           5,988,927
Ohio                   11,536,504
Kentucky            4,339,367
West Virginia   1,852,994
Indiana           6,483,802
Washington DC   601,723
Pennsylvania   12,702,379
Total                   49,405,169
   
   
                   81,065,966

However, even if you take out border states and just add up population in those states, it gives us 60,000,000 people, so that's something to take into consideration.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14808 on: September 29, 2011, 03:40:33 PM »
Pfft Clay Travis math.  Even Louisville has more Kentucky fans than Louisville fans.
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« Reply #14809 on: September 29, 2011, 03:42:02 PM »
Pfft.  Even Louisville has more Kentucky fans than Louisville fans.

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« Reply #14810 on: September 29, 2011, 03:56:20 PM »
Boooooo Cincy.

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« Reply #14811 on: September 29, 2011, 04:02:49 PM »
Pfft.  Even Louisville has more Kentucky fans than Louisville fans.

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I mod'd my post.  I get what you were saying but that wasn't clear in my pfft post.

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« Reply #14812 on: September 29, 2011, 04:26:13 PM »
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15660469/tennessee-ad-sec-needs-to-discuss-further-expansion-soon?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

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Hart says the addition of Texas A&M as the SEC's 13th team was a good one, but the league's leaders must take their next steps deliberately because the SEC will expand again. He says those conversations will take place "in short order."

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« Reply #14813 on: September 29, 2011, 04:31:03 PM »
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15660469/tennessee-ad-sec-needs-to-discuss-further-expansion-soon?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

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Hart says the addition of Texas A&M as the SEC's 13th team was a good one, but the league's leaders must take their next steps deliberately because the SEC will expand again. He says those conversations will take place "in short order."

 :sdeek: :horrorsurprise: :runaway: :jerk:

eff em.  Gonna be too late if the BYU and BE rumors are true.  Not only would we have stolen WV, but we may make the confy secure enough that MU would stick.

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« Reply #14814 on: September 29, 2011, 04:33:21 PM »
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15660469/tennessee-ad-sec-needs-to-discuss-further-expansion-soon?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

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Hart says the addition of Texas A&M as the SEC's 13th team was a good one, but the league's leaders must take their next steps deliberately because the SEC will expand again. He says those conversations will take place "in short order."

 :sdeek: :horrorsurprise: :runaway: :jerk:

eff em.  Gonna be too late if the BYU and BE rumors are true.  Not only would we have stolen WV, but we may make the confy secure enough that MU would stick.

I think it would be funny if they are left with USF.

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« Reply #14815 on: September 29, 2011, 04:33:58 PM »
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Hearing rumblings that TCU to the Big 12 might actually happen - aren't you just craving more realignment talk!!

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Interesting note on @gac1033 the last 5 nat'l TV Games with TCU drew a bigger audience in DFW than the last 5 nat'l TV games for the Aggies.

ian fitzsimmons works for the espn dalls radio station btw

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« Reply #14816 on: September 29, 2011, 04:42:15 PM »
It would appear that we've gone to war with the SEC.

Way to go, Schulzy.  Put an EMAW in the drivers's seat of this thing and watch stuff get done.

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« Reply #14817 on: September 29, 2011, 04:48:19 PM »
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Hearing rumblings that TCU to the Big 12 might actually happen - aren't you just craving more realignment talk!!

Ian1033 Ian Fitzsimmons
Interesting note on @gac1033 the last 5 nat'l TV Games with TCU drew a bigger audience in DFW than the last 5 nat'l TV games for the Aggies.

ian fitzsimmons works for the espn dalls radio station btw
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One of those was the Rosebowl.


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« Reply #14818 on: September 29, 2011, 04:48:57 PM »
eff it, let's take all of them. 

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« Reply #14819 on: September 29, 2011, 04:49:00 PM »
it's amazing what unlimited soup, salad and breadsticks will do for a guy

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« Reply #14820 on: September 29, 2011, 04:50:47 PM »
eff it, let's take all of them. 

Screw it.  Let's go to 16 and do pods.

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« Reply #14821 on: September 29, 2011, 04:51:32 PM »
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Shulzy!!!!

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« Reply #14822 on: September 29, 2011, 04:51:44 PM »
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Hearing rumblings that TCU to the Big 12 might actually happen - aren't you just craving more realignment talk!!

Ian1033 Ian Fitzsimmons
Interesting note on @gac1033 the last 5 nat'l TV Games with TCU drew a bigger audience in DFW than the last 5 nat'l TV games for the Aggies.

ian fitzsimmons works for the espn dalls radio station btw
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One of those was the Rosebowl.
One of those Aggie games was the Cotton Bowl

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« Reply #14823 on: September 29, 2011, 04:52:34 PM »
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Shulzy!!!!

He said, "Missouri?  No, denied.  WVU?  No, denied.  Louisville?  No, denied.  You can have South Florida.  Have a nice day."

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« Reply #14824 on: September 29, 2011, 04:53:38 PM »
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Shulzy!!!!

He said, "Missouri?  No, denied.  WVU?  No, denied.  Louisville?  No, denied.  You can have South Florida.  Have a nice day."

My god!  WV is now the pretty girl.  Who woulda thought?