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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12050 on: September 18, 2011, 04:12:51 PM »
AQ is nonissue in anycase.  Who cares?  The Big 4 conference will split and have their own system anyway.  If K-State is not in one of the four super conferences it's over, TV revenue will be minimal.  No one will pay to watch the minor league of college football.

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we're done. i'm sad. there are no viable options for anything better than something completely horrible if texas2 and oklahoma2 go pac. the good news is that depression is the 4th stage so pretty close to acceptance.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12051 on: September 18, 2011, 04:13:46 PM »
The Left Behind Conference will be a top basketball conference and its football champion would be top 10.

However, no traditional football powerhouse. Conference members should have to make open commitments to football. Facilities/stadium upgrades, etc.
Some network would shell out bucks, I think. Lots of media markets, cincy, kc, louisville, houston, dallas/fort worth.


I think scheduling with change. LB Conference teams will want games against big boys (I'm not talking Duke, Wake, Cuse or Wash. State) for big paydays and exposure.


Top ten in what?  There will be two separate polls: Major League top 25 and Minor League top 25.  Believe me there will be a complete separation in football, the super conferences are going to exist outside of the NCAA.  They will have different recruiting rules, qualifying rules, and possibly will pay players.

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« Reply #12052 on: September 18, 2011, 04:16:34 PM »
I don't see how the left overs don't make a damn attractive AQ conference.  Sure it wont be SEC level but it would be one hell of a scrappy conference.  

K-State
KU
Maybe Mizzou will be taken elsewhere = that is why I said maybe
Cinci  just got BCS status = Recently in a BCS bowl
Louisville  just got BCS status = Recently in BCS running
USF  just got BCS status = Improving and recently in BCS running
AF non BCS = Considered a quality program mid tier comp of BSC conference, easily make a case to be in an AQ conf
TCU just got BCS sorta = Widely considered BCS top caliber
BYU non BCS = widely considered AQ conf quality
Boise State non BCS = Too easy.  Easily BCS NC contender
UConn/Rutgers just got BCS/ = Both BCS bowl/running
Baylor = Improving football program, good Bball
SMU/Houston non BCS/ non BCS = Non BCS but making improvements to return to status re: willing to put money into program SMU in particular

its a joke and will never retain AQ

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Like I said it WOULD NOT be a top flight conference.  Instead a very scrappy conference that just barely makes AQ status right behind top 4 super conferences.  It would be like a a tier 1.5 conference
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« Reply #12053 on: September 18, 2011, 04:17:56 PM »
I don't see how the left overs don't make a damn attractive AQ conference.  Sure it wont be SEC level but it would be one hell of a scrappy conference.  

K-State
KU
Maybe Mizzou will be taken elsewhere = that is why I said maybe
Cinci  just got BCS status = Recently in a BCS bowl
Louisville  just got BCS status = Recently in BCS running
USF  just got BCS status = Improving and recently in BCS running
AF non BCS = Considered a quality program mid tier comp of BSC conference, easily make a case to be in an AQ conf
TCU just got BCS sorta = Widely considered BCS top caliber
BYU non BCS = widely considered AQ conf quality
Boise State non BCS = Too easy.  Easily BCS NC contender
UConn/Rutgers just got BCS/ = Both BCS bowl/running
Baylor = Improving football program, good Bball
SMU/Houston non BCS/ non BCS = Non BCS but making improvements to return to status re: willing to put money into program SMU in particular

its a joke and will never retain AQ

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Like I said it WOULD NOT be a top flight conference.  Instead a very scrappy conference that just barely makes AQ status right behind top 4 super conferences.  It would be like a a tier 1.5 conference

It would be the top flight conference in a newly expanded FCS.
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« Reply #12054 on: September 18, 2011, 04:20:57 PM »
What spots are available and who is left to fill them?

Pac is full.

SEC has 2 spots if you think WVU is in.

ACC has 2 spots.

big 10 has 3 spots, essentially.

Right?

Teams left:

Big XII-
KSU
KU
ISU
Baylor
MU

Big East-
Cinci
UL
Uconn
Rutgers
USF
TCU?

Indy-
BYU

These teams to fight over 7 spots.


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« Reply #12055 on: September 18, 2011, 04:23:07 PM »
The Left Behind Conference will be a top basketball conference and its football champion would be top 10.

However, no traditional football powerhouse. Conference members should have to make open commitments to football. Facilities/stadium upgrades, etc.
Some network would shell out bucks, I think. Lots of media markets, cincy, kc, louisville, houston, dallas/fort worth.


I think scheduling with change. LB Conference teams will want games against big boys (I'm not talking Duke, Wake, Cuse or Wash. State) for big paydays and exposure.


Top ten in what?  There will be two separate polls: Major League top 25 and Minor League top 25.  Believe me there will be a complete separation in football, the super conferences are going to exist outside of the NCAA.  They will have different recruiting rules, qualifying rules, and possibly will pay players.
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« Reply #12056 on: September 18, 2011, 04:23:22 PM »
good post ew

12 teams or so, 7 spots


I would love to see people's rankings
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« Reply #12057 on: September 18, 2011, 04:24:07 PM »
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Assuming #Pac12, ACC full, #WVU team 14 to #SEC, and #ND team 13 to #big 10, if you're KU, KSU, UL, etc., you've got to be swetaing bullets.

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« Reply #12058 on: September 18, 2011, 04:25:34 PM »
The Left Behind Conference will be a top basketball conference and its football champion would be top 10.

However, no traditional football powerhouse. Conference members should have to make open commitments to football. Facilities/stadium upgrades, etc.
Some network would shell out bucks, I think. Lots of media markets, cincy, kc, louisville, houston, dallas/fort worth.


I think scheduling with change. LB Conference teams will want games against big boys (I'm not talking Duke, Wake, Cuse or Wash. State) for big paydays and exposure.



What makes you think a league that doesn't get on tv will have the recruitment power to get players good enough to be a top 10 team?

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« Reply #12059 on: September 18, 2011, 04:26:00 PM »
SEC our only option?

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« Reply #12060 on: September 18, 2011, 04:26:11 PM »
i swear to god though if rough ridin' rutgers and uconn are able to squeak into the acc, i am just going to be right back at the anger stage though. rough ridin' uconn and rutgers. seriously?

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« Reply #12061 on: September 18, 2011, 04:27:34 PM »
I believe Pitt and Cuse, but Rutgers and Uconn leave me scratching my head. Almost a fearful move from the ACC.

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« Reply #12062 on: September 18, 2011, 04:27:39 PM »
i'm hoping the mwc even lets us in.  imagine us having to go independent :dunno:


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12063 on: September 18, 2011, 04:28:01 PM »
good post ew

12 teams or so, 7 spots


I would love to see people's rankings

Gawd damn it that was brought up several pages ago and none of you ass hats even looked at it. K-State will be fighting with TCU, Baylor, ISU, Cincy, S. Florida, KU, BYU and Louisville for the last couple of spots. I don't see Baylor, ISU, TCU, Cincy or South Florida getting in. I think we will be a package deal with KU and end up in either the ACC or SEC.
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« Reply #12064 on: September 18, 2011, 04:28:44 PM »
good post ew

12 teams or so, 7 spots


I would love to see people's rankings

Gawd damn it that was brought up several pages ago and none of you ass hats even looked at it. K-State will be fighting with TCU, Baylor, ISU, Cincy, S. Florida, KU, BYU and Louisville for the last couple of spots. I don't see Baylor, ISU, TCU, Cincy or South Florida getting in. I think we will be a package deal with KU and end up in either the ACC or SEC.

It was posted a while ago, but LOTS of things have changed since.

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« Reply #12065 on: September 18, 2011, 04:28:56 PM »
What spots are available and who is left to fill them?

Pac is full.

SEC has 2 spots if you think WVU is in.

ACC has 2 spots.

big 10 has 3 spots, essentially.

Right?

Teams left:

Big XII-
KSU
KU
ISU
Baylor

MU

Big East-
Cinci
UL
Uconn
Rutgers
USF
TCU?

Indy-
BYU

These teams to fight over 7 spots.

you can basically strike the mormons, the baptists, and havs off that list imo
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12066 on: September 18, 2011, 04:29:22 PM »
TCU will go somewhere that doesn't already have a Texas in.

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« Reply #12067 on: September 18, 2011, 04:30:20 PM »
cannot wait to see baylor/ken's response to everything on monday. 

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« Reply #12068 on: September 18, 2011, 04:30:39 PM »
I just want to be in the big boy conference  :frown:

Someone give me their percentage predictos for every conference.

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« Reply #12069 on: September 18, 2011, 04:30:51 PM »
TCU will go somewhere that doesn't already have a Texas in.

No way TCU gets into the big league, IMO.

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« Reply #12070 on: September 18, 2011, 04:30:58 PM »
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What makes you think a league that doesn't get on tv will have the recruitment power to get players good enough to be a top 10 team?

Cable TV has an insatiable for content. There would be a contract.

I also don't see a 64 set in stone working. Unlike pro teams, unsuccessful schools can't move to another city. Also, do Wake, Duke, Vandy, Northwestern want to be involved in pay or play?


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« Reply #12071 on: September 18, 2011, 04:31:22 PM »
What spots are available and who is left to fill them?

Pac is full.

SEC has 2 spots if you think WVU is in. TCU, KSU (Not really going to happen they would stay at 14 first

ACC has 2 spots. Rutgers, UConn

big 10 has 3 spots, essentially. KU,MU,ISU unless they get Rutgers before they say yes to ACC

Right?

Teams left:

Big XII-
KSU
KU
ISU
Baylor
MU

Big East-
Cinci
UL
Uconn
Rutgers

USF
TCU?

Indy-
BYU

These teams to fight over 7 spots.



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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12072 on: September 18, 2011, 04:32:08 PM »
ACC will stay in one time zone

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« Reply #12073 on: September 18, 2011, 04:32:27 PM »
cannot wait to see baylor/ken's response to everything on monday. 

and that is why the mid/lower big 12/east schools are having issues.  eff waiting till tomorrow, act NOW.
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« Reply #12074 on: September 18, 2011, 04:32:33 PM »
I just want to be in the big boy conference  :frown:

Someone give me their percentage predictos for every conference.

Big 10 is the one that boggles my mind. I can't see them wanting anyone but ND and MAYBE Mizzou. No AAU status could kill us on that one.