Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[michigancat]

Ugh...if stupid rough ridin' UT would have caved within this conference, we'd still have a place to play football. If OU was originally leaving cuz UT were assholes, what sense does it make to go with UT?

Yeah, makes no sense. chip is just a mouthpiece.

OU is leaving for stability, IMO.

The only thing making the Big 12 unstable is them being butthurt over LHN. So they go to the Pac with UT and a full-blown LHN.

[wetwillie]

Texas caved.  What a bunch of rough ridin' pussies.

my guess is pac caved.

Larry Scott couldn't stomach whiffing on TX again.  Can't blame him after he got CU and Utah.

[mcmwcat]

OU is leaving for stability, IMO.

ou should be able to leave whenever they want a find a landing spot.

[wabash909]

Can't wait to hear Chip explain UT's abandonment or restructuring of the LHN that made the PAC possible.

Those mother f*ckers could have done the same here and still had their kingdom in the Big XII.

[ew2x4]

Ugh...if stupid rough ridin' UT would have caved within this conference, we'd still have a place to play football. If OU was originally leaving cuz UT were assholes, what sense does it make to go with UT?

Yeah, makes no sense. chip is just a mouthpiece.

OU is leaving for stability, IMO.

The only thing making the Big 12 unstable is them being butthurt over LHN. So they go to the Pac with UT and a full-blown LHN.

Until UT goes indy.

[catzacker]

Can't wait to hear Chip explain UT's abandonment or restructuring of the LHN that made the PAC possible.

Those mother f*ckers could have done the same here and still had their kingdom in the Big XII.

Yeah.  Don't get that at all.

[michigancat]

Ugh...if stupid rough ridin' UT would have caved within this conference, we'd still have a place to play football. If OU was originally leaving cuz UT were assholes, what sense does it make to go with UT?

Yeah, makes no sense. chip is just a mouthpiece.

OU is leaving for stability, IMO.

The only thing making the Big 12 unstable is them being butthurt over LHN. So they go to the Pac with UT and a full-blown LHN.

Until UT goes indy.

that's not very realistic. They may think they're Notre Dame, but they aren't.

[ew2x4]

Ugh...if stupid rough ridin' UT would have caved within this conference, we'd still have a place to play football. If OU was originally leaving cuz UT were assholes, what sense does it make to go with UT?

Yeah, makes no sense. chip is just a mouthpiece.

OU is leaving for stability, IMO.

The only thing making the Big 12 unstable is them being butthurt over LHN. So they go to the Pac with UT and a full-blown LHN.

Until UT goes indy.

that's not very realistic. They may think they're Notre Dame, but they aren't.

Somewhere between BYU and ND is all they need.

[catzacker]

Pitt and Cuse to the ACC, and they way they did it, should only make you more confident in the survival of the Big 12 containing UT and OU.

Explain.

First of all, it is evidence that OU is bluffing. If they wanted to leave, they would have left like Cuse and Pitt did (and NU and CU last year).

Secondly, it makes UT to the ACC much less likely. who do they go with? KU? Tech? Please.

Third, (and this is huge a stretch), Cuse and Pitt may have left due to a lack of attractive expansion options for the Big East (KU, KSU, MU).

I fail to see how the actions of pitt and cuse in any way mean that OU is bluffing.  Completely different cirumstances, factors, environment.  Neither of those two have enough cache' to go wherever they want, neither have a  crazy baptist school threatening to sue everyone.  ou isn't bluffing, they're just figuring a way out, but they still want out.  that's their intention.  

UT is left scrambling (sort of).  We're f'd.  

[ew2x4]

Best case scenario at this point will probably a Big XII/BE/BYU, Boise State, Air Force mash up. eff this crap.

[wabash909]

With the Big East/Big XII becoming the new Conference USA, this will finally be the catalyst for the Big 10 to acquire Notre Dame for full membership of all sports.  ND won't keep all their minor sports in there now.

You would think MU gets their invite now.  In reality, I could see KU going Big 10 as well.

[catzacker]

If OU and UT weren't so completely mumped in the head, they'd realized that the stability they want just got gift wrapped to them....Keep the big12 alive, add TCU, UL, and BYU.  The big12 doesn't have to die, just one conference.  let that be the big east.  

[ew2x4]

If OU and UT weren't so completely mumped in the head, they'd realized that the stability they want just got gift wrapped to them....Keep the big12 alive, add TCU, UL, and BYU.  The big12 doesn't have to die, just one conference.  let that be the big east. 

Kind of what I was thinking.

[gokatgo]

If OU and UT weren't so completely mumped in the head, they'd realized that the stability they want just got gift wrapped to them....Keep the big12 alive, add TCU, UL, and BYU.  The big12 doesn't have to die, just one conference.  let that be the big east. 

Kind of what I was thinking.

No, two have to die.

4x16=64


We're mumped

[wabash909]

4, 16 team conferences is a media driven fabrication.

[ew2x4]

4, 16 team conferences is a media driven fabrication.

Exactly.

This is our in to build our conference back up.

[EMAWzified]

Notre Dame will now be forced to join the BIG on the BiG's terms. Stupid of Beebe and Dodds not stressing that to ND the last two weeks.

[wabash909]

The four, sixteen team super conference is a vehicle for sports writers to try and kill the bowls for the long coveted playoff system.

The tv networks would actually prefer that there are NOT only four tier 1 conferences.

[wabash909]

Is there a reason the PAC has to stop at 16?

Could there be a home for KU, State, Baylor, ISU?  Create a true super conference that leaves much of this intact and addresses the entire travel problem by structuring a real East and West division of the conference?

I know, sounds Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but this was a talking point at some point way back around page 100 or something.

[fatty fat fat]

the irony of bitching about conference alignment is summed up by the post above.

[EMAWzified]

Is there a reason the PAC has to stop at 16?

More schools to split the $.

[sonofdaxjones]

Folks, at this juncture, the goal is to keep (and has always been) K-State in an AQ conference, playing conference games against AQ conference opponents.  

The bowls and possibly even the TV networks are going to fight like hell to stop a super conference scenario . . . even schools and coaches don't want that on many levels because if you're a coach, and you don't make the so called super conference playoffs a few years in a row, guess what?  Your ass is out of there, you make bowl games, you live a lot longer.

[Skipper44]

Is there a reason the PAC has to stop at 16?

Could there be a home for KU, State, Baylor, ISU?  Create a true super conference that leaves much of this intact and addresses the entire travel problem by structuring a real East and West division of the conference?

I know, sounds Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but this was a talking point at some point way back around page 100 or something.

one rumor is discussions of a similar pac 10 & big 12 partnership is how/when Larry Scott realized how unstable the big 12 a actually was......

[sonofdaxjones]

Had the conference listened to K-State alum Kevin Weiberg a few years ago, none of this would be happening.

[wabash909]

the irony of bitching about conference alignment is summed up by the post above.

Nailed it again, fatty.  Damn you're good.