Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[wabash909]

The PAC could do this to force Texas' hand.  If the pac were to take OU, OSU, Tech, KSUcats, and KU it would put big time pressure on Texas to join the PAC.

Force Texas' hand?  Are you rough ridin' serious?  That's like me telling Jessica Alba I'm going to eff Rosanne, Judge Judy, and Drew Carey cause she won't blow me on my terms.  Jessica like UT is the hottest bitch around and knows it.  They'd move on to the next sucker who would break their own leg to get a piece.

Trying to leverage Texas, that's rough ridin' hilarious.

Kim certainly is a treasure.

[Panjandrum]

The fighting Haverhill's?   

ShannonSwafford Shannon Swafford
by GottliebShow
@GottliebShow And with Boren's statement about OU, Iowa state is in the fetal position in a dark room just rocking back and forth.

[MadCat]

Damn it, let me have my moment.

the only glimmer of hope I have is that OU now sounds like Texas did a year ago.  And all texas wanted was everyone to give them their network/money.  so maybe ou is trying to get a deal out of espn too.  which might be in espn's best interest, considering that Fox gets way more inventory with the regional networks.  The difference is that then we weren't trying to gain membership...cause nothing says "please join my conference" like OU's president saying "we're about to get the f outta here".  

Not at all a glimmer of hope.  Ou just undercut any chance we'd ever have of semming stable enough to pull a good school into our conference.

I'm now firmly on the "Please Baby Jesus Please Let Us Get In On Some Pac-18 Action" bandwagon.

Maybe we can temporarily suspend all the religious groups on campus to appease the atheists at Stanford and Cal.

[Panjandrum]

Damn it, let me have my moment.

the only glimmer of hope I have is that OU now sounds like Texas did a year ago.  And all texas wanted was everyone to give them their network/money.  so maybe ou is trying to get a deal out of espn too.  which might be in espn's best interest, considering that Fox gets way more inventory with the regional networks.  The difference is that then we weren't trying to gain membership...cause nothing says "please join my conference" like OU's president saying "we're about to get the f outta here".  

Not at all a glimmer of hope.  Ou just undercut any chance we'd ever have of semming stable enough to pull a good school into our conference.

I'm now firmly on the "Please Baby Jesus Please Let Us Get In On Some Pac-18 Action" bandwagon.

Maybe we can temporarily suspend all the religious groups on campus to appease the atheists at Stanford and Cal.

I'm willing to be the official EMAW ambassador to the Pac in this regard.

[catzacker]

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1259825

When I texted a key source close to Texas Friday night if the Longhorns were preparing to head to the Pac-12 with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, the source texted back, "Leaning that way." The source later said there was a "50 to 60 percent" chance those schools would end up in the Pac-12.

[MakeItRain]

The PAC could do this to force Texas' hand.  If the pac were to take OU, OSU, Tech, KSUcats, and KU it would put big time pressure on Texas to join the PAC.

Force Texas' hand?  Are you rough ridin' serious?  That's like asking would I tell Jessica Alba I'm going to eff Rosanne, Judge Judy, and Drew Carey cause she won't blow me on my terms.  Jessica like UT is the hottest bitch around and knows it.  They'd move on to the next sucker who would break their own leg to get a piece.

Trying to leverage Texas, that's rough ridin' hilarious.

Well, in chatting with a friend, the one legit angle here is the fact that OU and UT may say that they want 18 and not 16 because they don't want to spend all of their time traveling to Corvalis and Pullman for non-revenue sports.  Add two more so they can have a 9 team division that they can save travel costs on.

There is a lot of symmetry to the 18 team model if you go with:

2 Washington
2 Oregon
2 Northern California
2 Southern California
2 Arizona
2 Mountain Time Zone
2 Texas
2 Oklahoma
2 Kansas

I mean this is a batshit crazy theory, but hey, it's not totally crazy.  Gottleib is right that the model is there.

I mean, all you have to do is basically move the Arizona schools to our division and give us Colorado and them Utah. 

Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
USC
Utah

Arizona
Arizona State
Texas
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Colorado

I mean, really, that's not a completely asinine scenario.  It covers nearly every major university west of the Mississippi.  One can assume that if the Pac gets that aggressive, Mizzou finds a home in the Big Ten or SEC fairly easily.

Did you quote the wrong post?  What the hell are you talking about here, seriously?  The point is the Pac can't leverage UT because they can go to the SEC, Big 10, or go indy.  I have no idea what your post means.

[ew2x4]

 

[Acceleration Man]

At this rate, why don't we just cut to the chase and go the NFL route -- 2 major leagues, say the WFC and the EFC (West and East Football Conference). Then, since Kansas is the geographical center of the lower 48, we send half our players to each league. For home games, we paint a line down the middle of BSFS and play two games simultaneously. The WFC game on the west half of the field, and the EFC game on the east half. Would make for grand entertainment, no?

[Panjandrum]

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1259825

When I texted a key source close to Texas Friday night if the Longhorns were preparing to head to the Pac-12 with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, the source texted back, "Leaning that way." The source later said there was a "50 to 60 percent" chance those schools would end up in the Pac-12.

But Texas' move to the Pac-12 would also be difficult because of the legislative heat the Longhorns would likely face. Legislative sources said Friday night that part of the reason Texas A&M was allowed to withdraw from the Big 12 was because of assurances from the rest of the Big 12 that the league would survive.

Now that it appears the Big 12 is in serious jeopardy, lawmakers will not be so passive, sources said.

Two Big 12 sources said if Oklahoma and Texas are preparing to lead a charge to the Pac-12 there would almost certainly be a tortious interference lawsuit filed against the Southeastern Conference. That's if Texas A&M indeed submits its application for membership to the SEC next Tuesday or Wednesday as expected, according to sources.

"Texas A&M leaving has started this whole thing," one source said. "There is a big-time lawsuit here."

The potential of such legal action and the real possibility the Big 12 could collapse prompted another Big 12 source to wonder if the SEC would now hesitate to accept Texas A&M, considering the fallout that could befall the Big 12.

Messages left with officials from Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech as well as Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott were not returned Friday night.

[Panjandrum]

The PAC could do this to force Texas' hand.  If the pac were to take OU, OSU, Tech, KSUcats, and KU it would put big time pressure on Texas to join the PAC.

Force Texas' hand?  Are you rough ridin' serious?  That's like asking would I tell Jessica Alba I'm going to eff Rosanne, Judge Judy, and Drew Carey cause she won't blow me on my terms.  Jessica like UT is the hottest bitch around and knows it.  They'd move on to the next sucker who would break their own leg to get a piece.

Trying to leverage Texas, that's rough ridin' hilarious.

Well, in chatting with a friend, the one legit angle here is the fact that OU and UT may say that they want 18 and not 16 because they don't want to spend all of their time traveling to Corvalis and Pullman for non-revenue sports.  Add two more so they can have a 9 team division that they can save travel costs on.

There is a lot of symmetry to the 18 team model if you go with:

2 Washington
2 Oregon
2 Northern California
2 Southern California
2 Arizona
2 Mountain Time Zone
2 Texas
2 Oklahoma
2 Kansas

I mean this is a batshit crazy theory, but hey, it's not totally crazy.  Gottleib is right that the model is there.

I mean, all you have to do is basically move the Arizona schools to our division and give us Colorado and them Utah. 

Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
USC
Utah

Arizona
Arizona State
Texas
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Colorado

I mean, really, that's not a completely asinine scenario.  It covers nearly every major university west of the Mississippi.  One can assume that if the Pac gets that aggressive, Mizzou finds a home in the Big Ten or SEC fairly easily.

Did you quote the wrong post?  What the hell are you talking about here, seriously?  The point is the Pac can't leverage UT because they can go to the SEC, Big 10, or go indy.  I have no idea what your post means.

I'm not responding to your post.  I'm just all over the place right now.

[wabash909]

This is where Baylor comes in.  Them cats is lawyered up.

[MakeItRain]

This is where Baylor comes in.  Them cats is lawyered up.

Yeah if Ken Starr can get a bro hemmed up for getting a blow job, he and his henchmen can certainly milk a crap ton of cash out of all of these University Presidents lying their asses off.

[Panjandrum]

This is where Baylor comes in.  Them cats is lawyered up.

And I was just getting into the Pac-18.  

[TheHamburglar]

This is where Baylor comes in.  Them cats is lawyered up.

I would like to paraphrase Lewis Black when talking about Ken Starr.  "Everyone wanted Bill Clinton punished, not impeached but punished. What did the Republicans do, they hired a guy named Ken Starr.  They handed him a guy and said 'go get him'.  What did Ken Starr do, he promptly took the gun and  "

If this is the guy leading the charge against UT, we're screwed.

[MakeItRain]

This is where Baylor comes in.  Them cats is lawyered up.

I would like to paraphrase Lewis Black when talking about Ken Starr.  "Everyone wanted Bill Clinton punished, not impeached but punished. What did the Republicans do, they hired a guy named Ken Starr.  They handed him a guy and said 'go get him'.  What did Ken Starr do, he promptly took the gun and  "

If this is the guy leading the charge against UT, we're screwed.

I don't get it, pretty sure he accomplished his goal and then some.  History will view him as getting a sitting President impeached for getting head.  That's exactly the guy you want on your side if you're trying to get cash in court.

[ew2x4]

Ughh, Big East. Gonna be a BLAST. Can't wait for that one to fall apart too.

[MadCat]

EDIT: Nevermind

[nicname]

Did you quote the wrong post?  What the hell are you talking about here, seriously?  The point is the Pac can't leverage UT because they can go to the SEC, Big 10, or go indy.  I have no idea what your post means.

I think some around here are putting UT on a bit higher of a pedestal than they are worthy of.  I, for one would love to UT go indy, it would be a laugh riot.

[TheHamburglar]

This is where Baylor comes in.  Them cats is lawyered up.

I would like to paraphrase Lewis Black when talking about Ken Starr.  "Everyone wanted Bill Clinton punished, not impeached but punished. What did the Republicans do, they hired a guy named Ken Starr.  They handed him a guy and said 'go get him'.  What did Ken Starr do, he promptly took the gun and  "

If this is the guy leading the charge against UT, we're screwed.

I don't get it, pretty sure he accomplished his goal and then some.  History will view him as getting a sitting President impeached for getting head.  That's exactly the guy you want on your side if you're trying to get cash in court.

He got the guy impeached, but by the end no one really cared.  He showed that gawd-awful 4 hour deposition then released that 700 page report that no one read.  1 month after Clinton was impeached no one gave a crap anymore.  The guy lied under oath and by the time Ken Starr was done Ken Starr came out looking like the bigger a-hole.  1 month after the impeachment Ken Starr was a bigger villain that Clinton. 

[SkinnyBenny]

big win for Ken tonight against the horny horny frogs

[Katpappy]

This is where Baylor comes in.  Them cats is lawyered up.

I would like to paraphrase Lewis Black when talking about Ken Starr.  "Everyone wanted Bill Clinton punished, not impeached but punished. What did the Republicans do, they hired a guy named Ken Starr.  They handed him a guy and said 'go get him'.  What did Ken Starr do, he promptly took the gun and  "

If this is the guy leading the charge against UT, we're screwed.

I don't get it, pretty sure he accomplished his goal and then some.  History will view him as getting a sitting President impeached for getting head.  That's exactly the guy you want on your side if you're trying to get cash in court.

He got the guy impeached, but by the end no one really cared.  He showed that gawd-awful 4 hour deposition then released that 700 page report that no one read.  1 month after Clinton was impeached no one gave a crap anymore.  The guy lied under oath and by the time Ken Starr was done Ken Starr came out looking like the bigger a-hole.  1 month after the impeachment Ken Starr was a bigger villain that Clinton. 

Oh really, a sitting predz that was impeached...voting for impeachment and being impeached aren't the same.  Please read history book before you post. 

[TheHamburglar]

This is where Baylor comes in.  Them cats is lawyered up.

I would like to paraphrase Lewis Black when talking about Ken Starr.  "Everyone wanted Bill Clinton punished, not impeached but punished. What did the Republicans do, they hired a guy named Ken Starr.  They handed him a guy and said 'go get him'.  What did Ken Starr do, he promptly took the gun and  "

If this is the guy leading the charge against UT, we're screwed.

I don't get it, pretty sure he accomplished his goal and then some.  History will view him as getting a sitting President impeached for getting head.  That's exactly the guy you want on your side if you're trying to get cash in court.

He got the guy impeached, but by the end no one really cared.  He showed that gawd-awful 4 hour deposition then released that 700 page report that no one read.  1 month after Clinton was impeached no one gave a crap anymore.  The guy lied under oath and by the time Ken Starr was done Ken Starr came out looking like the bigger a-hole.  1 month after the impeachment Ken Starr was a bigger villain that Clinton. 

Oh really, a sitting predz that was impeached...voting for impeachment and being impeached aren't the same.  Please read history book before you post. 

Not sure where you are coming from...are you saying Clinton wasn't impeached or are you defending Ken Starr for getting Clinton impeached even though he is remembered by history as the bigger villain?

[Panjandrum]

http://twitter.com/#!/DanWetzel/status/109850046832459777

Baylor AD Ian McCaw said B12 expansion plans are essentially on hold until Oklahoma makes up its mind to stay or go

Get the non-perishables, the gun, and the flashlight because we're going to need to head to the bunker at this point and hopefully come back up with some semblance of civilization left after Armageddon.

[SoonerHoopsfan]

[MakeItRain]

Did you quote the wrong post?  What the hell are you talking about here, seriously?  The point is the Pac can't leverage UT because they can go to the SEC, Big 10, or go indy.  I have no idea what your post means.

I think some around here are putting UT on a bit higher of a pedestal than they are worthy of.  I, for one would love to UT go indy, it would be a laugh riot.

On a higher pedestal than they are worthy?  Who the hell is higher?  UT had the highest revenues in the country before the LHN.  UT is right in the middle of the second most highly populated state in the country.  The only state that is growing as fast as Texas is Arizona.  UT has led merchandise sales six years in a row.  There is no bigger fish than the University of Texas-Austin.