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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #7425 on: August 11, 2011, 11:18:51 AM »
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Today was a very busy day in Park Ridge. For the Big Ten, the writing has been on the wall: we're going to 16-team super-conferences.

Invitations to join the conference remain in the hands of the appropriate parties at Notre Dame and Texas. The Big Ten believes that Notre Dame will join once Texas joins the conference. Texas wishes to join the Big Ten with its Longhorn Network, as a non-participant in the Big Ten Network. This scenario remains feasible.

The Big Ten is now operating under the presumption that A&M currently plans to leave the Big XII for the SEC. However, there is haste to consider an invitation to A&M immediately. The message to A&M has not yet been met with adequate response by the relevant parties at A&M. Though an invitation has not been settled upon, one likely will soon be forthcoming to Texas A&M. The Chancellors and Presidents have a conference scheduled to give provisional approval to invite A&M to the conference. It is expected that the Big Ten Chancellors and Presidents will find that A&M would add a unique level of tradition and academic prestige to the conference.

Separately, A&M stands to benefit the most from joining the Big Ten conference. In particular, A&M would reap the benefits from the Big Ten Network - which Park Ridge thinks would vastly outweigh the benefits that A&M would receive from the SEC. In particular, the Big Ten Network's reach is and likely always will capture a vastly wider audience than the Longhorn Network, and with A&M's addition to the Big Ten, will include the geographic footprint of the entire state of Texas.

With regard to the benefits A&M stands to gain from Big Ten membership, the Big Ten feels that the Big Ten Network would obviously more than offset the competition for eyeballs of recruits in the state of Texas from the Longhorn Network. The terms of the offer given to Texas include the right for Texas to maintain and independently operate the Longhorn Network, and thus not share in the financial benefit of the BTN. (Texas would receive equal voting rights and treatment in all other operations and activities of the conference aside from participation in the BTN.)

If A&M left the Big XII for the SEC, the Big Ten believes that the resulting political circumstances in the state of Texas would enable the University of Texas to leave the Big XII to join the Big Ten conference, regardless of the decisions made by the other Texas universities (with regard to the Big XII conference).

The Big Ten is actively pursuing the relevant parties at A&M and expanding discussions. This week, for the first time since the conference explored expansion possibilities, the notion that Texas and Texas A&M could join the Big Ten instead of Texas and Notre Dame as members 13 and 14 were openly considered. In such circumstances, the Big Ten believes that once Texas and Texas A&M join the conference, Notre Dame almost certainly would immediately follow, and several universities are in consideration for the sixteenth member, as I mentioned on the Rock. Should Texas and Texas A&M commit simultaneously to the Big Ten, the Big Ten expects to jointly announce the addition of four teams total to create a 16 team conference shortly thereafter.

We're currently in a period of acceleration of activity much like that which came before the invitation extended to Nebraska. The Big Ten seems poised to act immediately if A&M responds to certain overtures.


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #7427 on: August 11, 2011, 11:29:17 AM »
I'm now coming to the point that I don't really have any confidence in the Big 12-2 remaining viable, and maybe even against my will I am starting to see where people from NU and ATM are coming from with regards to UT.  I also have to give a lot of props to Ttech for refusing to allow UT to broadcast TT vs UT football games on the LHN.  

I guess it just feels like the tide is turning and I would rather this shake out sooner than later.  The end case is hopefully and most likely 16 team conferences, whether it be 4 or 5 of them I think KSU winds up just fine.  My bet would favor there only being 4 16 team conferences, and in that case we might sweat a bit more, but I still think in the end the Cats will wind up at the big boy table.

My fear is if we don't get the 16 team conferences and KSU gets left on the outside looking in.  
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #7428 on: August 11, 2011, 11:30:52 AM »
I don't have any "outside looking in" fear left.  I would prefer the Big East for bb reasons. 

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #7429 on: August 11, 2011, 11:31:20 AM »
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« Reply #7431 on: August 11, 2011, 11:35:59 AM »
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Also on this team.  I guess I don't understand what A&M is so pissed off about.  They can start their own network too and show high school games on there if they want.  It won't be as profitable as LHN will be, but they should do that.
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« Reply #7432 on: August 11, 2011, 11:49:38 AM »
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Also on this team.  I guess I don't understand what A&M is so pissed off about.  They can start their own network too and show high school games on there if they want.  It won't be as profitable as LHN will be, but they should do that.

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« Reply #7433 on: August 11, 2011, 11:58:26 AM »
If Notre Dame wants to continue to control it's destiny and have the maximum amount of profitability and autonomy in the "New World Order", they need a conference, and they need one that will let them control their own media rights.  We can provide that.

Can you imagine being a part of a super conference with Notre Dame and Texas that was known as the NWO?  :love:

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« Reply #7434 on: August 11, 2011, 12:14:20 PM »
I'm now coming to the point that I don't really have any confidence in the Big 12-2 remaining viable.  

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« Reply #7435 on: August 11, 2011, 12:21:49 PM »
I'm now coming to the point that I don't really have any confidence in the Big 12-2 remaining viable.  

good lord.

It's still very viable.  They just need to get A&M to shut up so it can die down for a while.

Eventually, we have another TV contract to negotiate in a couple of years.  If schools threaten to leave whenever someone does something that upsets them, it's going to hurt our bargaining power down the road.

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« Reply #7436 on: August 11, 2011, 12:27:03 PM »
I am and have been open to any eventuality but, I still don't see how Texas can feel they'd be any better off anywhere besides in the Big 12.   

Again, if you're Texas WHY would you have any desire to go anywhere else??  Every other conference offers up nothing but obstacles to Texas being at the top of the heap.   If you're CEO of Apple right now, you don't join a major alliance with Microsoft and Oracle where you've got to ask them permission on damn near everything before you do it.


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« Reply #7437 on: August 11, 2011, 12:34:18 PM »
I am and have been open to any eventuality but, I still don't see how Texas can feel they'd be any better off anywhere besides in the Big 12.   

Again, if you're Texas WHY would you have any desire to go anywhere else??  Every other conference offers up nothing but obstacles to Texas being at the top of the heap.   If you're CEO of Apple right now, you don't join a major alliance with Microsoft and Oracle where you've got to ask them permission on damn near everything before you do it.


This is still the best arrangement for Texas in just about every scenario assuming they'll still make the same amount of money minus A&M.

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« Reply #7438 on: August 11, 2011, 12:35:35 PM »
I'm now coming to the point that I don't really have any confidence in the Big 12-2 remaining viable.  

good lord.

What's your opinion on the matter sys?
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« Reply #7439 on: August 11, 2011, 12:37:35 PM »
Texas wouldn't want to play in the Big 10.  Just seems really stupid.

But could you imagine how butthurt Nebraska fans would be if Texas joined their conference and big bro started beating the crap out of them in front of all their new friends?


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« Reply #7440 on: August 11, 2011, 12:39:03 PM »
Texas wouldn't want to play in the Big 10.  Just seems really stupid.

But could you imagine how butthurt Nebraska fans would be if Texas joined their conference and big bro started beating the crap out of them in front of all their new friends?

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« Reply #7441 on: August 11, 2011, 12:44:06 PM »
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Today was a very busy day in Park Ridge. For the Big Ten, the writing has been on the wall: we're going to 16-team super-conferences.

Invitations to join the conference remain in the hands of the appropriate parties at Notre Dame and Texas. The Big Ten believes that Notre Dame will join once Texas joins the conference. Texas wishes to join the Big Ten with its Longhorn Network, as a non-participant in the Big Ten Network. This scenario remains feasible.

The Big Ten is now operating under the presumption that A&M currently plans to leave the Big XII for the SEC. However, there is haste to consider an invitation to A&M immediately. The message to A&M has not yet been met with adequate response by the relevant parties at A&M. Though an invitation has not been settled upon, one likely will soon be forthcoming to Texas A&M. The Chancellors and Presidents have a conference scheduled to give provisional approval to invite A&M to the conference. It is expected that the Big Ten Chancellors and Presidents will find that A&M would add a unique level of tradition and academic prestige to the conference.

Separately, A&M stands to benefit the most from joining the Big Ten conference. In particular, A&M would reap the benefits from the Big Ten Network - which Park Ridge thinks would vastly outweigh the benefits that A&M would receive from the SEC. In particular, the Big Ten Network's reach is and likely always will capture a vastly wider audience than the Longhorn Network, and with A&M's addition to the Big Ten, will include the geographic footprint of the entire state of Texas.

With regard to the benefits A&M stands to gain from Big Ten membership, the Big Ten feels that the Big Ten Network would obviously more than offset the competition for eyeballs of recruits in the state of Texas from the Longhorn Network. The terms of the offer given to Texas include the right for Texas to maintain and independently operate the Longhorn Network, and thus not share in the financial benefit of the BTN. (Texas would receive equal voting rights and treatment in all other operations and activities of the conference aside from participation in the BTN.)

If A&M left the Big XII for the SEC, the Big Ten believes that the resulting political circumstances in the state of Texas would enable the University of Texas to leave the Big XII to join the Big Ten conference, regardless of the decisions made by the other Texas universities (with regard to the Big XII conference).

The Big Ten is actively pursuing the relevant parties at A&M and expanding discussions. This week, for the first time since the conference explored expansion possibilities, the notion that Texas and Texas A&M could join the Big Ten instead of Texas and Notre Dame as members 13 and 14 were openly considered. In such circumstances, the Big Ten believes that once Texas and Texas A&M join the conference, Notre Dame almost certainly would immediately follow, and several universities are in consideration for the sixteenth member, as I mentioned on the Rock. Should Texas and Texas A&M commit simultaneously to the Big Ten, the Big Ten expects to jointly announce the addition of four teams total to create a 16 team conference shortly thereafter.

We're currently in a period of acceleration of activity much like that which came before the invitation extended to Nebraska. The Big Ten seems poised to act immediately if A&M responds to certain overtures.


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« Reply #7442 on: August 11, 2011, 12:45:03 PM »
Has there been any known discussions of an invitation to the Big 12 if A&M leaves?  Like one team to keep it Big 12 -2?

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« Reply #7443 on: August 11, 2011, 12:45:45 PM »
Has there been any known discussions of an invitation to the Big 12 if A&M leaves?  Like one team to keep it Big 12 -2?

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« Reply #7444 on: August 11, 2011, 12:46:06 PM »
Has there been any known discussions of an invitation to the Big 12 if A&M leaves?  Like one team to keep it Big 12 -2?

No.

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« Reply #7445 on: August 11, 2011, 12:47:06 PM »
Has there been any known discussions of an invitation to the Big 12 if A&M leaves?  Like one team to keep it Big 12 -2?

BYU (see gpc thread for the scoop on if mormons are christians or not)

Is that from a legit source, or just dudes on GPC arguing over stupid stuff?

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« Reply #7446 on: August 11, 2011, 12:47:28 PM »
Texas wouldn't want to play in the Big 10.  Just seems really stupid.

But could you imagine how butthurt Nebraska fans would be if Texas joined their conference and big bro started beating the crap out of them in front of all their new friends?

Would be hilarious when Nub then tried to join the Pac-12 because they "fit in better academically".

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« Reply #7447 on: August 11, 2011, 12:51:48 PM »
What's your opinion on the matter sys?

given above.  none of the rumors being promulgated make any sense.  therefore, they won't occur, and anyone that takes them seriously should be lolled @.
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« Reply #7448 on: August 11, 2011, 01:06:09 PM »
right now the big 12 is basically jett pink.  it was dead man walking thanks to some meddling by the big 10 aka gage fuckface.  then trace gets fired and things change.   all of the sudden, the big 12 is now viable again.  to complete the analogy, jeff is the sec, jenni is the pac 10, and zoila is the big east - lol.

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« Reply #7449 on: August 11, 2011, 01:16:02 PM »
this is all nothing more than aTm being butthurt about the LHN.

aTm isn't going anywhere, jfc people.