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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36575 on: February 22, 2024, 03:23:19 PM »
If the other conferences were smart and NOT short-sighted (and we know this to be untrue), all non-SEC/Big Ten conferences would cozy up to the punching bag that is the NCAA and present a unified front to the SEC/Big Ten. Basically, tell them to eff off with their football demands and let them know that if/when they choose to break away for football, they'll be unwelcome to participate in any other NCAA sports (including the men's b-ball tourney cash cow).

People just do not understand the level of infrastructure necessary to provide administration/structure to dozens of sports. It's easy to crap all over the NCAA - and, rightly so in many cases - but what they do isn't easy. The SEC league office probably has about 30ish employees. The NCAA has more than 3,000.

Telling those two leagues to administer/govern 30+ sports would stop them in their tracks because no conference has the infrastructure in place to do it and it'd take many, many years and tens of millions of dollars to get to that point.

Agree for the most part. Prob, is, most of these dudes making the decisions give no fucks about the other sports anyway. They'd be happy to rid themselves of the Olympic sports that cost them money.

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« Reply #36576 on: February 22, 2024, 04:13:44 PM »
If the other conferences were smart and NOT short-sighted (and we know this to be untrue), all non-SEC/Big Ten conferences would cozy up to the punching bag that is the NCAA and present a unified front to the SEC/Big Ten. Basically, tell them to eff off with their football demands and let them know that if/when they choose to break away for football, they'll be unwelcome to participate in any other NCAA sports (including the men's b-ball tourney cash cow).

People just do not understand the level of infrastructure necessary to provide administration/structure to dozens of sports. It's easy to crap all over the NCAA - and, rightly so in many cases - but what they do isn't easy. The SEC league office probably has about 30ish employees. The NCAA has more than 3,000.

Telling those two leagues to administer/govern 30+ sports would stop them in their tracks because no conference has the infrastructure in place to do it and it'd take many, many years and tens of millions of dollars to get to that point.

Agree for the most part. Prob, is, most of these dudes making the decisions give no fucks about the other sports anyway. They'd be happy to rid themselves of the Olympic sports that cost them money.

I'm not doubting that's true, but you still have to work around Title IX and if you had only a football program, you'd still have to have at least 3-4 women's sports to have equity balance. And, that's to say nothing of the massive revolt that would happen if a school like, say The Ohio State, cut 30ish sports of the 36 it currently offers.

Having said that... the NCAA is the governing body that mandates schools have at least 14 total sponsored sports to be D1. If those schools setup their own infrastructure, they could do whatever they want (within the boundaries of Title IX). But, still, a wholesale cutting of sports would be an enormous shitstorm that no university wants to take on - especially if they were bringing in loads of football $$$. Optics on that are terrible.

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« Reply #36577 on: February 22, 2024, 04:18:17 PM »
You might even be able to successfully argue that they didn't have to follow Title 9 if their athletic departments didn't take government money and were a separate entity that leased space from the University.  If the athletes are eventually deemed employees given a stipend toward optional education, then it could get even muddier.

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« Reply #36578 on: February 22, 2024, 08:55:04 PM »
Things will be much better for us when the P2 breaks off.

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« Reply #36579 on: February 22, 2024, 09:02:53 PM »
You might even be able to successfully argue that they didn't have to follow Title 9 if their athletic departments didn't take government money and were a separate entity that leased space from the University.  If the athletes are eventually deemed employees given a stipend toward optional education, then it could get even muddier.

Yeah - fair point.

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« Reply #36580 on: March 12, 2024, 10:19:05 AM »
https://flywareagle.com/posts/fsu-clemson-ok-state-k-state-texas-tech-join-sec-ku-notre-dame-unc-uva-joining-big-ten
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FSU, Clemson, OK State, K-State, and Texas Tech may join SEC, with KU, Notre Dame, UNC, and UVA joining Big Ten
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« Reply #36581 on: March 12, 2024, 10:26:10 AM »
Don't believe any of that, but would take.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36582 on: March 12, 2024, 10:56:17 AM »
Gross. 

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« Reply #36583 on: March 12, 2024, 11:10:17 AM »
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FSU, Clemson, OK State, K-State, and Texas Tech may join SEC, with KU, Notre Dame, UNC, and UVA joining Big Ten
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I mean, just check out the credentials. This guy knows football.

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« Reply #36584 on: March 12, 2024, 11:29:54 AM »
His name is an anagram of Swami.  Coincidence?  :surprised:

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« Reply #36585 on: March 12, 2024, 12:03:27 PM »
I don't believe any of that either, but do take a great deal of delight in this line:

"Another possibility raised was Texas A&M leaving the SEC and joining the Big Ten since Texas is now the Lone Star State's marquee brand in the conference."

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« Reply #36586 on: March 12, 2024, 12:17:14 PM »
Look guys these talking heads are doing things to support the "Super 2", in the same way Endeavor supported Big 12 talking heads to help get the four corner schools.  They are having fun and getting lots of bait clicks for their "X" and YouTube programs.
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« Reply #36587 on: March 12, 2024, 12:19:15 PM »
Does the Big 12 conference have enough leverage in basketball to throw their weight around in the CFP negotiations.  Big 12 schools refusing to schedule SEC / Big 10 schools in basketball could have an impact.

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« Reply #36588 on: March 12, 2024, 12:29:37 PM »
Could be scare tactics, but I actually think this could happen

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1767566547218772344

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36589 on: March 12, 2024, 12:31:01 PM »
Does the Big 12 conference have enough leverage in basketball to throw their weight around in the CFP negotiations.  Big 12 schools refusing to schedule SEC / Big 10 schools in basketball could have an impact.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36590 on: March 12, 2024, 12:34:39 PM »
Could be scare tactics, but I actually think this could happen

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1767566547218772344

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« Reply #36591 on: March 12, 2024, 12:52:03 PM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36592 on: March 12, 2024, 04:35:20 PM »
Could be scare tactics, but I actually think this could happen

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1767566547218772344
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« Reply #36593 on: March 12, 2024, 06:08:13 PM »
I don't believe any of that either, but do take a great deal of delight in this line:

"Another possibility raised was Texas A&M leaving the SEC and joining the Big Ten since Texas is now the Lone Star State's marquee brand in the conference."

This is backwards. aTm belongs in the SEC. Texas SHOULD HAVE joined the big 10, if they insisted on leaving. That's what Bill Powers wanted, but he went and died.

That said, I do enjoy the dynamic of aTm trying to escape big brother's shadow, and then big brother showing up at his dorm and giving him a swirly. (I'm a UT alum.)

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« Reply #36594 on: March 12, 2024, 07:49:38 PM »
I don't believe any of that either, but do take a great deal of delight in this line:

"Another possibility raised was Texas A&M leaving the SEC and joining the Big Ten since Texas is now the Lone Star State's marquee brand in the conference."

This is backwards. aTm belongs in the SEC. Texas SHOULD HAVE joined the big 10, if they insisted on leaving. That's what Bill Powers wanted, but he went and died.

That said, I do enjoy the dynamic of aTm trying to escape big brother's shadow, and then big brother showing up at his dorm and giving him a swirly. (I'm a UT alum.)

How does an alum of the Jayhawks and Longhorns end up on a board consisting of friends and alumni of the Wildcats?  I hope Texas works their evil magic on the SEC and in the near future the crying and bitching from SEC teams becomes great enough to destroy them.  Ride on MR. Longhorn!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36595 on: March 12, 2024, 08:26:54 PM »
Could be scare tactics, but I actually think this could happen

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1767566547218772344
I’ve been suggesting this for decades.

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« Reply #36597 on: March 12, 2024, 09:15:23 PM »
A&M already left one conference to try to break away from Texas. I wouldn't be shocked at all if they did it again. And I think it would be hilarious.

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« Reply #36598 on: March 12, 2024, 09:24:33 PM »
I don't believe any of that either, but do take a great deal of delight in this line:

"Another possibility raised was Texas A&M leaving the SEC and joining the Big Ten since Texas is now the Lone Star State's marquee brand in the conference."

This is backwards. aTm belongs in the SEC. Texas SHOULD HAVE joined the big 10, if they insisted on leaving. That's what Bill Powers wanted, but he went and died.

That said, I do enjoy the dynamic of aTm trying to escape big brother's shadow, and then big brother showing up at his dorm and giving him a swirly. (I'm a UT alum.)

How does an alum of the Jayhawks and Longhorns end up on a board consisting of friends and alumni of the Wildcats?  I hope Texas works their evil magic on the SEC and in the near future the crying and bitching from SEC teams becomes great enough to destroy them.  Ride on MR. Longhorn!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #36599 on: March 12, 2024, 10:11:44 PM »
I don't believe any of that either, but do take a great deal of delight in this line:

"Another possibility raised was Texas A&M leaving the SEC and joining the Big Ten since Texas is now the Lone Star State's marquee brand in the conference."

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