Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[KCFDcat]

Sounds like Arizona is going to have to decide ....

The mistake here would be to assume that UofA is going to have a choice.  High probability that the ABOR will do whatever Crow (ASU) wants.  And what Crow wants is to build the world's largest JUCO within the academic halo of a conference affiliation with Stanford, and to a lesser extent, Cal.  He'd also like to kill college athletics (really).

yeah sounds like if ASU wants to stay, UA is gonna be forced to stay with them.

Absolutely brutal, if you're a UA fan you have to absolutely hate ASU right now.

[ChiComCat]

Everything I've read about Crow points to his being a dumbass.  Now, if his dumbassery was a long-term play to kill college athletics at ASU, then he's absolutely killing it.

[KCFDcat]

Rumors that OSU and WSU have agreed to give a share of their media deal to OR/WA if they stay. absolute insanity.

[ChiComCat]

Schulz is showing off his Conference Armageddon Participation Certificate and telling the rest of the Pac 12 how to hold this thing together

[Rage Against the McKee]

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1687478811313451009

[Houstoncat93]

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/1687481150355472384?t=U7ovq9FMa6YvuKLstomcWg&s=19

[wetwillie]

The ABOR being able to tell UA they can't move makes 0 sense to me.  A BOR has never stopped a school in realignment and I don't believe it will happen now.

[Houstoncat93]

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1687478811313451009?t=7IjOhxvkxrpJimiQY6NsgA&s=19

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1687479430057201664?t=hxl-WvDTQLEXulW4r6OxcQ&s=19

Looks like the Hail Mary must have just fallen short.

[DaBigTrain]

[DaBigTrain]

This would make a great reality tv show

[deputy dawg]

Get AZ, sit tight, and watch the rest try to scratch their way out of the sack of crap that is the PAC. 

[ChiComCat]

I don't really want to, but I think it would be fun to take UConn just so Arizona St and Utah know there is one less seat at the table

[WildcatNkilt]

I'm on team take AZ to get to 14 and wait until Oregon and Washington decide what they want to do. 

If Oregon and Washington go to big 10, I still think you wait at 14 to see what happens with ACC.  If ASU wants to stay in the PAC that bad, let them. 

[sonofdaxjones]

No school with choices should sign on to another "if certain subscription levels are met" deal unless the base finances are amazing.   

[Stupid Fitz]

No school with choices should sign on to another "if certain subscription levels are met" deal unless the base finances are amazing.

No school outside of "the leftovers" would ever do that in the first place.

[Kid In the Hall]

Any guesses as to the level of cuts (begging) that Schultz/Wazzu and OSU did? Down to a $15 million cut? $10 million? $5 million?

[sonofdaxjones]

No school with choices should sign on to another "if certain subscription levels are met" deal unless the base finances are amazing.

No school outside of "the leftovers" would ever do that in the first place.

But . . . they kind of did that once and on top of that, Larry forgot to mention that $60 million dollar bill.

[sonofdaxjones]

Any guesses as to the level of cuts (begging) that Schultz/Wazzu and OSU did? Down to a $15 million cut? $10 million? $5 million?

I can't see how Wazzu could afford halving their TV payout.

I also looked and Utah Athletics received $12 million dollars in subsidization from the academic side of the house in 2022.   Without it, they would have been $10 million in the red at current expense levels. 

[Kid In the Hall]

Any guesses as to the level of cuts (begging) that Schultz/Wazzu and OSU did? Down to a $15 million cut? $10 million? $5 million?

I can't see how Wazzu could afford halving their TV payout.

I also looked and Utah Athletics received $12 million dollars in subsidization from the academic side of the house in 2022.   Without it, they would have been $10 million in the red at current expense levels.

I don't either, but if your choice is the $3 million per year that Mountain West teams get and a reduced share of Pac 12 revenue...

And, with Utah, that nugget of info makes their posturing even more ridiculous.

[KCFDcat]

I don't really want to, but I think it would be fun to take UConn just so Arizona St and Utah know there is one less seat at the table

yormark should just leak that big 12 officials are in Connecticut or something. Really get everyone riled up.

[MadCat]

I don't really want to, but I think it would be fun to take UConn just so Arizona St and Utah know there is one less seat at the table

[KCFDcat]

Any guesses as to the level of cuts (begging) that Schultz/Wazzu and OSU did? Down to a $15 million cut? $10 million? $5 million?

I can't see how Wazzu could afford halving their TV payout.

I also looked and Utah Athletics received $12 million dollars in subsidization from the academic side of the house in 2022.   Without it, they would have been $10 million in the red at current expense levels.

In general pac 12 finances are an absolute disaster. Doesn't Cal have debt in the 100's of millions?

If UO/UW/AZ/ASU leave, I can't imagine the remaining get a tv deal thats worth anything north of 8 million per. So I guess giving up 5 million of the current 20 to oregon washington is a better deal.

[WildcatNkilt]

I don't really want to, but I think it would be fun to take UConn just so Arizona St and Utah know there is one less seat at the table

yormark should just leak that big 12 officials are in Connecticut or something. Really get everyone riled up.

I'm more and more pro UCONN.  If BY can split off the basketball $$, the conference could be getting a pretty legit payout.  ASU and Utah do not help that cause. 

[KCFDcat]

I don't really want to, but I think it would be fun to take UConn just so Arizona St and Utah know there is one less seat at the table

yormark should just leak that big 12 officials are in Connecticut or something. Really get everyone riled up.

I'm more and more pro UCONN.  If BY can split off the basketball $$, the conference could be getting a pretty legit payout.  ASU and Utah do not help that cause.

I'm very pro UCONN. very.

[Houstoncat93]

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1687503791032086531?t=FFNraoD-Bd6pL5Fx2WQejw&s=19

Despite some apparent last minute heroics and/or cold feet looks like things are once again progressing to the immanent death of the PAC.