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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #33025 on: January 27, 2022, 10:25:39 AM »
There is no rebuttal to someone speaking in absolutes about a hypothetical situation from 23 years ago, so it's fruitless to even try.

We win the national championship with a CFP in 1998

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« Reply #33026 on: January 27, 2022, 11:41:53 AM »


K-State will never win an NC. That’s not a K-State thing. That’s a everyone outside 15ish schools thing. With the internet making easy for anyone to be found, there aren’t nearly as many DITR to uncover. No school outside of 12-15 schools have the lines, team speed or depth to win 2 in the playoffs.

I want a 12-team playoff with home first round games because I want to host a playoff game. I want that experience. Expecting anything more than that is just setting myself up for disappointment. I don’t think that’s small-time K-State thinking either. I’ve watched ND, Washington, & Michigan St get boat raced in semis with generational teams.

Yeah honestly the CFP makes it harder for KSU, not easier. Embrace the 1991 model. CU, Washington, BYU, Georgia Tech were getting nattys back then.

But, I (possibly ignorantly) view it similarly to the NCAA tourney. It's just sooooo much more fun when you're in, even if you don't stand a chance. But an upset or a magical little run gives all the feels

I wonder if there could be some study done to show a 6 or more team playoff (w/ auto bids) could help with some attendance issues around college football? Probably wouldn't matter since it's all TV $$, but who knows. Expansion would give 2 or even 3-4 loss teams something to play for deep into the season, giving us a lot more important games and put more pressure on Conference Champ games. Also, I just think about a team like our 2003 squad, playing their best ball in December, not early in the year (injuries and depth issues will obviously do that do middle-bottom tier programs)

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« Reply #33027 on: January 27, 2022, 11:43:22 AM »
If they went with tiered conferences with relegations and promotions college football would probably surpass the NFL in popularity.

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« Reply #33028 on: January 27, 2022, 12:20:10 PM »
If they went with tiered conferences with relegations and promotions college football would probably surpass the NFL in popularity.

I’ve always loved this idea but I think it’s an unpopular one even on this blog site
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« Reply #33029 on: January 27, 2022, 01:43:24 PM »
If they went with tiered conferences with relegations and promotions college football would probably surpass the NFL in popularity.

I’ve always loved this idea but I think it’s an unpopular one even on this blog site
I would fully support this with the ultimate goal of getting KU football relegated to DII where it belongs.
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« Reply #33030 on: January 27, 2022, 01:57:00 PM »
130 schools. - 13 schools per tiers,  10 tiers. Top 5 go up, bottom 5 go down.   Winner of top tier is national champion.

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« Reply #33031 on: January 27, 2022, 02:55:39 PM »
I imagine there would be lots of self-proclaimed national champions in that model if there are several who go undefeated

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« Reply #33032 on: January 27, 2022, 02:57:22 PM »
I imagine there would be lots of self-proclaimed national champions in that model if there are several who go undefeated

You couldn't have multiple undefeated teams in the top tier. It would be a 13 team round robin.

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« Reply #33033 on: January 27, 2022, 02:59:13 PM »
I mean in the other tiers...you know there will be teams saying they could beat teams in the top tier from year to year

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« Reply #33034 on: January 27, 2022, 03:01:12 PM »
I mean in the other tiers...you know there will be teams saying they could beat teams in the top tier from year to year

If they go undefeated in their tier, they'll move up.  They'll be the conference champion but only the designated top tier would be national champ.

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« Reply #33035 on: January 27, 2022, 03:22:41 PM »
You soccer dorks are really pizzing me off. It would never happen.

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« Reply #33036 on: January 27, 2022, 04:39:03 PM »
Do whatever you guys gotta do. Add a few more teams, get to 72 P5's total and redistribute members or something and get us in with the original Big 8 and I'll be happy.







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« Reply #33037 on: January 27, 2022, 04:50:04 PM »
Big 8 sucked Big Ass. BIG TWELVE BABY!

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« Reply #33038 on: January 27, 2022, 05:22:19 PM »
You soccer dorks are really pizzing me off. It would never happen.
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« Reply #33039 on: January 27, 2022, 05:23:55 PM »
A buddy of mine has season tickets to OU so I goo to 3-4 games a season. I would love to have. big 8 and big 12 shirts to wear every time.


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« Reply #33040 on: January 27, 2022, 05:34:28 PM »
Big 8 sucked Big Ass. BIG TWELVE BABY!

OG Big 12 was perfect  :frown:

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« Reply #33041 on: January 27, 2022, 05:35:34 PM »
Big 8 sucked Big Ass. BIG TWELVE BABY!

OG Big 12 was perfect  :frown:
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« Reply #33042 on: January 27, 2022, 06:06:20 PM »
Big 8 sucked Big Ass. BIG TWELVE BABY!

OG Big 12 was perfect  :frown:
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Like Icarus, the Big 12 has always been an experiment.

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« Reply #33043 on: January 27, 2022, 06:11:56 PM »
Big 12 North was so awesome.

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« Reply #33044 on: January 27, 2022, 06:17:25 PM »
Big 12 North was so awesome.
Didn't know how good we had it.
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« Reply #33045 on: January 27, 2022, 08:39:04 PM »
We really did have everything, didn’t we?

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« Reply #33046 on: January 27, 2022, 10:00:36 PM »
You soccer dorks are really pizzing me off. It would never happen.

I'm a soccer dork and I think the idea is amazingly stupid short sighted.

The biggest problem with college football is the inequity and someone wants to install a system that makes the inequity worse? One of college football's greatest strength are regional rivalries, actually it's college football's greatest strength, and that would be taken away? Promotion and relegation works in European football because the countries are tiny and the interest in and infrastructure of that sport over here isn't something we could replicate, especially in college football, it'd literally be the worst sport to do something like that in.

Recruiting and media contracts would also absolutely be disasters.

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« Reply #33047 on: January 27, 2022, 10:20:56 PM »
There is no rebuttal to someone speaking in absolutes about a hypothetical situation from 23 years ago, so it's fruitless to even try.

We win the national championship with a CFP in 1998

 :ROFL: damn  :facepalm:

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« Reply #33048 on: February 03, 2022, 08:43:13 PM »
A buddy of mine has season tickets to OU so I goo to 3-4 games a season. I would love to have. big 8 and big 12 shirts to wear every time.


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« Reply #33049 on: February 03, 2022, 08:52:32 PM »
We really didn’t know how good we had it.