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« Reply #31725 on: July 30, 2021, 11:08:39 PM »
The "The Lawrence/KC Area" tweet is going to be a top 15 thing to have happened during Cigars II.
We have no choice but to respond with a “Manhattan Metroplex” tweet including Lawrence/Topeka/KC/Wichita.

Just spray paint a purple dong on their tweet and send that out.
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« Reply #31726 on: July 31, 2021, 01:09:39 AM »



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If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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« Reply #31727 on: July 31, 2021, 04:34:42 AM »
You motherfuckers really just spend two pages complaining about Gene? My God. What's hilarious about this is I'm certain all of you know that Gene himself has no impact on what's going to happen. There are three outcomes here and none of them will be impacted by a single AD.

We remain in the Big 12 and add members
We get invited to another already existing P5 conference
We get left out and we have to go to a G5 conference

There is no way any of you can think any of these ADs can literally talk their way into a Big 10, Pac 12, or ACC invite, so what are we talking about here?
Who TF said Gene had impact on this?

Talking about Gene openly admitting he didn’t understand the GOR (WackyTuck immediately being triggered and as usual viewing it as a slight against all things Kstate) has virtually nothing to with a belief that Gene himself will impact this situation.

Good grief

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« Reply #31728 on: July 31, 2021, 06:33:47 AM »
So who thinks OU and UT play conference games in the SEC in 2022?

I don't see that happening unless some miracle happens and all the leftovers land in a power conference.

So they play out the remainder of the GOR in the Big 12 for 4 more years?
Or they pay us alot of money

I don’t know what this is so hard to understand

They won’t be playing in the big 12 for four more years, not a chance.  Any big money that gets paid out will be on ESPN’s end not the two schools leaving the conference.
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« Reply #31729 on: July 31, 2021, 06:39:17 AM »
Guys listen to what Fox exec.Tim Brando has to say about the remaining Big XII.
https://youtu.be/oTKwb1rPML0


Good industry perspective.  College football will be "fine"  in a sense that FOX and ESPN will always make an obscene amount of money from the sport, no matter how it's configured.  From a conference perspective, come 2025 (if the B12 is still together) the payout from FOX and ESPN will be a fraction of what it is now with the same or more viewers.

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« Reply #31730 on: July 31, 2021, 08:41:28 AM »



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« Reply #31731 on: July 31, 2021, 09:17:03 AM »
BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, and Central Florida. Sue the eff out of everyone and remain a P5.

This needs to be done by 2023.

It absolutely should not. If the elite 8 holds steady we're all getting $40 million a year for the next 4 years, that's even more than the ACC and Pac 12. No one is making that, even if someone gets a deal from the Big 10 because they won't get a full share right away.

Do nothing until the summer of 2024, then start weighing your options for July 1, 2025.

I really hope you’re right. Many contracts have a material adverse change clause and I’m thinking his scenario is definitely a material change for the big 12. We’ll see I guess.

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« Reply #31732 on: July 31, 2021, 09:27:01 AM »
BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, and Central Florida. Sue the eff out of everyone and remain a P5.

This needs to be done by 2023.

It absolutely should not. If the elite 8 holds steady we're all getting $40 million a year for the next 4 years, that's even more than the ACC and Pac 12. No one is making that, even if someone gets a deal from the Big 10 because they won't get a full share right away.

Do nothing until the summer of 2024, then start weighing your options for July 1, 2025.

I really hope you’re right. Many contracts have a material adverse change clause and I’m thinking his scenario is definitely a material change for the big 12. We’ll see I guess.

It did have that language in it, but espn screwed the pooch on getting their plans to dissolve the big 12 revealed and have likely put themselves in position to pay out the full amount of the contract regardless of who is in the league.
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« Reply #31733 on: July 31, 2021, 09:48:39 AM »
BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, and Central Florida. Sue the eff out of everyone and remain a P5.

This needs to be done by 2023.

It absolutely should not. If the elite 8 holds steady we're all getting $40 million a year for the next 4 years, that's even more than the ACC and Pac 12. No one is making that, even if someone gets a deal from the Big 10 because they won't get a full share right away.

Do nothing until the summer of 2024, then start weighing your options for July 1, 2025.

I really hope you’re right. Many contracts have a material adverse change clause and I’m thinking his scenario is definitely a material change for the big 12. We’ll see I guess.

The adverse change only happens once they leave . The only way they can leave early is if we agree to it. Notice how all the announcements use the end of the GOR as effective date. If they thought they had a way around the GOR we would be hearing more about back channel exit negotiations. 

I really think the Aggies pushed the timeline way up on this plan and they just said well might as well announce now.

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« Reply #31734 on: July 31, 2021, 10:55:51 AM »
Yea this would have been kept quiet for much longer if not leaked.
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« Reply #31735 on: July 31, 2021, 12:03:22 PM »
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-07-08-sp-135-story.html

Pretty interesting to read a newspaper article from 1990 foreshadowing the past 30 years or so
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« Reply #31736 on: July 31, 2021, 12:24:30 PM »
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-07-08-sp-135-story.html

Pretty interesting to read a newspaper article from 1990 foreshadowing the past 30 years or so

Well, I was but a wee lad back in 1990, but the fact that this was known back in 1990 just shows how inept the Big XII leadership has been this whole time. The writing has been on the walls and they just stuck their head in the sand thinking everything would be fine.

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« Reply #31737 on: July 31, 2021, 12:31:58 PM »
Guys listen to what Fox exec.Tim Brando has to say about the remaining Big XII.
https://youtu.be/oTKwb1rPML0


Good industry perspective.  College football will be "fine"  in a sense that FOX and ESPN will always make an obscene amount of money from the sport, no matter how it's configured.  From a conference perspective, come 2025 (if the B12 is still together) the payout from FOX and ESPN will be a fraction of what it is now with the same or more viewers.

What I got out of the interview was the Fox exsc. seems like this was a gift for his network and seems very happy about the rife with us and ESPN.  Which means that he would like to see the Big XII stay together and more then likely they will guide us on which teams we need for the largest payout.  Since they're not happy with the PAC, they may offer us a large network contract with the addition of select schools.  This could include SEC schools.  I'm hoping for a network battle before this is all over.
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« Reply #31738 on: July 31, 2021, 12:43:06 PM »
A Fox vs ESPN network battle for the Big XII following a PAC implosion would be amazing.

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« Reply #31739 on: July 31, 2021, 12:58:52 PM »
PAC schools issues sound a lot like the what Big XII went thru in 2010-12.  It could blow up during the 2023 tv contract.
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« Reply #31740 on: July 31, 2021, 08:28:25 PM »
Sankey was on with Powl last Friday and it’s abundantly clear he wants the SEC to monopolize college football. 

Anti CFPO expansion, backtracked briefly, the reasserted that he’s not interested in CFPO expansion. 

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« Reply #31741 on: July 31, 2021, 09:35:45 PM »
Sankey was on with Powl last Friday and it’s abundantly clear he wants the SEC to monopolize college football. 

Anti CFPO expansion, backtracked briefly, the reasserted that he’s not interested in CFPO expansion.

https://theathletic.com/2737943/2021/07/29/after-adding-oklahoma-and-texas-what-is-the-secs-endgame-the-rest-of-the-ncaa-fears-a-super-league/?amp

The Athletic did a story a few days ago referencing his reading of the book on the formation of The Premier League.

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« Reply #31742 on: July 31, 2021, 09:56:58 PM »
SECspn = WWF/WWE
NCAA = NWA
B10/PAC * FOX = WCW and the bigger NWA promotions
Everyone else = old regional promotions under the NCAA umbrella
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« Reply #31743 on: July 31, 2021, 10:06:03 PM »
This guy is interesting:

https://youtu.be/RYDZdyvcSoQ
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« Reply #31744 on: July 31, 2021, 10:15:49 PM »
SECspn = WWF/WWE
NCAA = NWA
B10/PAC * FOX = WCW and the bigger NWA promotions
Everyone else = old regional promotions under the NCAA umbrella

A good thread would be a separate realignment thread told almost exclusively with the aid of prof'l wrestling vids/storylines.

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« Reply #31745 on: July 31, 2021, 11:02:14 PM »
This guy is interesting:

https://youtu.be/RYDZdyvcSoQ

That video is 48 minutes long. How interesting?

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« Reply #31746 on: July 31, 2021, 11:13:32 PM »
This guy is interesting:

https://youtu.be/RYDZdyvcSoQ

That video is 48 minutes long. How interesting?

About the first 24 min, after that it's just UCF stuff.
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« Reply #31747 on: July 31, 2021, 11:19:14 PM »
I’ll take the katpappy summary of the first 24 minutes.

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« Reply #31748 on: July 31, 2021, 11:33:20 PM »
I’ll take the katpappy summary of the first 24 minutes.

He thinks the Big XII will grab four teams that includes Colorado, Nebraska, UCF, and one of the Arizona schools.  He says Nubs and AZ schools aren't happy in their conferences.  Probably won't happen until UT & OU leave.
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« Reply #31749 on: August 01, 2021, 01:02:12 AM »
So he's an idiot?
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