Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[catastrophe]

This really might wind up as two college football leagues won't it... the Disney League and the Fox league.

Things do seem trending in this direction.

[Stupid Fitz]

So who blinks first here? Do TX and OU just pay the buyout and GTFO? Does someone (maybe KU  ) get lucky as crap and get an offer they can't refuse, thus blowing the whole thing up? Does the SEC say, crap, never mind, we are good? Do we end up in the WAC getting $3m a year? I don't have the patience to keep following this, so I need something to happen fairly quick.

TIA

[ben ji]

So who blinks first here? Do TX and OU just pay the buyout and GTFO? Does someone (maybe KU  ) get lucky as crap and get an offer they can't refuse, thus blowing the whole thing up? Does the SEC say, crap, never mind, we are good? Do we end up in the WAC getting $3m a year? I don't have the patience to keep following this, so I need something to happen fairly quick.

TIA

The little 8 stick together and fill their Olympic sized swimming pools with gold coins.

[cfbandyman]

So who blinks first here? Do TX and OU just pay the buyout and GTFO? Does someone (maybe KU  ) get lucky as crap and get an offer they can't refuse, thus blowing the whole thing up? Does the SEC say, crap, never mind, we are good? Do we end up in the WAC getting $3m a year? I don't have the patience to keep following this, so I need something to happen fairly quick.

TIA

The little 8 stick together and fill their Olympic sized swimming pools with gold coins.

Create our own network/app and live off the settled annuity like a boss

[MakeItRain]

So who blinks first here? Do TX and OU just pay the buyout and GTFO? Does someone (maybe KU  ) get lucky as crap and get an offer they can't refuse, thus blowing the whole thing up? Does the SEC say, crap, never mind, we are good? Do we end up in the WAC getting $3m a year? I don't have the patience to keep following this, so I need something to happen fairly quick.

TIA

I didn't think about this until now but I don't think the other schools can afford to leave, especially KU. The ACC and Big 10 aren't going to wait 4 years for them, and there's no way they can afford a buyout.

[Houstoncat93]

Just saw a clip where some CBS talking head thinks this is all headed (eventually) to something akin to minor league baseball but not as formal.

His concept went something like this:

MLB = NFL
Triple A = SEC\B10 (they will have all the money and in the NIL era attract the top athletes)
Double A = PAC12\ACC (they will have good money but not like the SEC\B10 and get second tier ahtletes)
Single A = everybody else, (AAC\LO8) might be a high single A group ahead of the low A group

*LO8 = Leftover 8

He also said with the open transfer portal in place now that players would sort of self promote up through the leagues if they couldn't sign with the Triple A level leagues.

[Houstoncat93]

So who blinks first here? Do TX and OU just pay the buyout and GTFO? Does someone (maybe KU  ) get lucky as crap and get an offer they can't refuse, thus blowing the whole thing up? Does the SEC say, crap, never mind, we are good? Do we end up in the WAC getting $3m a year? I don't have the patience to keep following this, so I need something to happen fairly quick.

TIA

I didn't think about this until now but I don't think the other schools can afford to leave, especially KU. The ACC and Big 10 aren't going to wait 4 years for them, and there's no way they can afford a buyout.

That is a really good point.  That would seem to make sticking together more likely, not because we all really want too but because everybody has too.

[Stupid Fitz]

So who blinks first here? Do TX and OU just pay the buyout and GTFO? Does someone (maybe KU  ) get lucky as crap and get an offer they can't refuse, thus blowing the whole thing up? Does the SEC say, crap, never mind, we are good? Do we end up in the WAC getting $3m a year? I don't have the patience to keep following this, so I need something to happen fairly quick.

TIA

I didn't think about this until now but I don't think the other schools can afford to leave, especially KU. The ACC and Big 10 aren't going to wait 4 years for them, and there's no way they can afford a buyout.

yeah, until yesterday, I assumed it would all blow up and TX and OU would be playing in the SEC by next year and the rest either grabbed shitty teams and taped it together or got lucky and joined the PAC. Now I have no idea how its going to go. The KSU board should def follow our crypto and new to investing threads to make as much money as possible with their final few payouts though.

[MakeItRain]

Just saw a clip where some CBS talking head thinks this is all headed (eventually) to something akin to minor league baseball but not as formal.

His concept went something like this:

MLB = NFL
Triple A = SEC\B10 (they will have all the money and in the NIL era attract the top athletes)
Double A = PAC12\ACC (they will have good money but not like the SEC\B10 and get second tier ahtletes)
Single A = everybody else, (AAC\LO8) might be a high single A group ahead of the low A group

*LO8 = Leftover 8

He also said with the open transfer portal in place now that players would sort of self promote up through the leagues if they couldn't sign with the Triple A level leagues.

So 3 of the 5 leagues would just cede their autonomy rights? No shot.

[Stupid Fitz]

Just saw a clip where some CBS talking head thinks this is all headed (eventually) to something akin to minor league baseball but not as formal.

His concept went something like this:

MLB = NFL
Triple A = SEC\B10 (they will have all the money and in the NIL era attract the top athletes)
Double A = PAC12\ACC (they will have good money but not like the SEC\B10 and get second tier ahtletes)
Single A = everybody else, (AAC\LO8) might be a high single A group ahead of the low A group

*LO8 = Leftover 8

He also said with the open transfer portal in place now that players would sort of self promote up through the leagues if they couldn't sign with the Triple A level leagues.

Not sure something like this would last long. Who is paying to broadcast the shitty leagues? Plus, teams would never crawl out of those shitty leagues because as soon as they got lucky getting a guy the big guys didn't notice, he is transferring out immediately. I guess that still happens, but still.

[pissclams]

Just saw a clip where some CBS talking head thinks this is all headed (eventually) to something akin to minor league baseball but not as formal.

His concept went something like this:

MLB = NFL
Triple A = SEC\B10 (they will have all the money and in the NIL era attract the top athletes)
Double A = PAC12\ACC (they will have good money but not like the SEC\B10 and get second tier ahtletes)
Single A = everybody else, (AAC\LO8) might be a high single A group ahead of the low A group

*LO8 = Leftover 8

He also said with the open transfer portal in place now that players would sort of self promote up through the leagues if they couldn't sign with the Triple A level leagues.

every part of this concept makes me want to barf

[Pete]

With the new transfer rules, there is nothing to stop the SEC schools from recruiting heavily from the campuses of the lower conferences.  If you are a diamond in the rough kid who always wanted to play at the highest level, it's easier to make that happen now.  Sucks for the smaller schools, who are still bound by the 25 annual recruits rule and need to figure out a way to keep depth.

[MakeItRain]

ESPN didn't pick the Stanford game and used their early season game selection to tank the value of the remaining schools.

[MadCat]

ESPN is behind everything bad. 

[Houstoncat93]

Just saw a clip where some CBS talking head thinks this is all headed (eventually) to something akin to minor league baseball but not as formal.

His concept went something like this:

MLB = NFL
Triple A = SEC\B10 (they will have all the money and in the NIL era attract the top athletes)
Double A = PAC12\ACC (they will have good money but not like the SEC\B10 and get second tier ahtletes)
Single A = everybody else, (AAC\LO8) might be a high single A group ahead of the low A group

*LO8 = Leftover 8

He also said with the open transfer portal in place now that players would sort of self promote up through the leagues if they couldn't sign with the Triple A level leagues.

So 3 of the 5 leagues would just cede their autonomy rights? No shot.

He wasn't talking about anything that formal.  Is was more about how it will look and feel given how each group would have access to money.  You could make the argument that today it is like this:

AAA = Power 5
AA = G5
A = non-FBS football

[Pete]

Effectively, the forgotten 8 in the Big 12 are in a lower tier right now. Every recruit now thinks so.

[PhoCat]

So who blinks first here? Do TX and OU just pay the buyout and GTFO? Does someone (maybe KU  ) get lucky as crap and get an offer they can't refuse, thus blowing the whole thing up? Does the SEC say, crap, never mind, we are good? Do we end up in the WAC getting $3m a year? I don't have the patience to keep following this, so I need something to happen fairly quick.

TIA

This is the concern of the for the remaining eight.  If two more teams get offers they can't refuse (and I am sure ESPN is trying to swing that with their conferences) those additional remaining teams, the Big 12 is done and has no legal standing in regard to exit fees from OU and UT or contractual agreements with each other.  When the conference dips below seven teams, its own bylaws says it is done.  The only card the Big 12 as a conference would have left is potential legal action against ESPN, which might be a fun case that lasts years, but would be much tougher to pursue if you start running out of schools willing to back that sucker.  Unless, of course, they can find some TV lawyer who will handle the case like one of those TV asbestos cases where you pay nothing unless you get paid. 

Then again, I am no lawyer, so maybe a KSU and a Baylor would spend the dough in hopes of the big payday that could come.  Are there enough donors willing to pay the jack to mount the legal cases (for the A.D.'s offices may be hurting so bad they can't afford the the amount of money needed for the lawyers needed with their diminished revenues post dissolution). 

[Pete]

Dennis Dodd reported that the Big 12 is confident that the way their agreements are written ensures that the Big 12 can still enforce the grant of rights on other schools, even if there is only 1 school remaining in the Big 12.

I kinda hope KSU just says eff it and rides this bitch all the way down.

[pissclams]

So who blinks first here? Do TX and OU just pay the buyout and GTFO? Does someone (maybe KU  ) get lucky as crap and get an offer they can't refuse, thus blowing the whole thing up? Does the SEC say, crap, never mind, we are good? Do we end up in the WAC getting $3m a year? I don't have the patience to keep following this, so I need something to happen fairly quick.

TIA

This is the concern of the for the remaining eight.  If two more teams get offers they can't refuse (and I am sure ESPN is trying to swing that with their conferences) those additional remaining teams, the Big 12 is done and has no legal standing in regard to exit fees from OU and UT or contractual agreements with each other.  When the conference dips below seven teams, its own bylaws says it is done.  The only card the Big 12 as a conference would have left is potential legal action against ESPN, which might be a fun case that lasts years, but would be much tougher to pursue if you start running out of schools willing to back that sucker.  Unless, of course, they can find some TV lawyer who will handle the case like one of those TV asbestos cases where you pay nothing unless you get paid. 

Then again, I am no lawyer, so maybe a KSU and a Baylor would spend the dough in hopes of the big payday that could come.  Are there enough donors willing to pay the jack to mount the legal cases (for the A.D.'s offices may be hurting so bad they can't afford the the amount of money needed for the lawyers needed with their diminished revenues post dissolution). 

the high price to exit will prevent this from happening

[ChiComCat]

Dennis Dodd reported that the Big 12 is confident that the way their agreements are written ensures that the Big 12 can still enforce the grant of rights on other schools, even if there is only 1 school remaining in the Big 12.

I kinda hope KSU just says eff it and rides this bitch all the way down.

I wish there was a better option but I think that might be it

[MadCat]

Dennis Dodd reported that the Big 12 is confident that the way their agreements are written ensures that the Big 12 can still enforce the grant of rights on other schools, even if there is only 1 school remaining in the Big 12.

I kinda hope KSU just says eff it and rides this bitch all the way down.

Move Big 12 headquarters to Manhattan.

[MakeItRain]

Just saw a clip where some CBS talking head thinks this is all headed (eventually) to something akin to minor league baseball but not as formal.

His concept went something like this:

MLB = NFL
Triple A = SEC\B10 (they will have all the money and in the NIL era attract the top athletes)
Double A = PAC12\ACC (they will have good money but not like the SEC\B10 and get second tier ahtletes)
Single A = everybody else, (AAC\LO8) might be a high single A group ahead of the low A group

*LO8 = Leftover 8

He also said with the open transfer portal in place now that players would sort of self promote up through the leagues if they couldn't sign with the Triple A level leagues.

So 3 of the 5 leagues would just cede their autonomy rights? No shot.

He wasn't talking about anything that formal.  Is was more about how it will look and feel given how each group would have access to money.  You could make the argument that today it is like this:

AAA = Power 5
AA = G5
A = non-FBS football

Gotcha. It's that way now, the Big 10 isn't on the same level as the SEC though. They, along with the Big 12 are effectively one team conferences anyway, the SEC is a two team conference right now. Alabama, Georgia, OU, Clemson, and Ohio State are playing a different game than everyone else. LSU, Florida, A&M, Penn State, Iowa, Oregon, Auburn, etc. have all been solid, but they haven't proven that they are beyond being mediocre or just plain shitty on any given year.

[sonofdaxjones]

ESPN is in survival mode and they’ve come out fighting like a Cocaine Willie/All night binder Sailor Willie hybrid when their 4am breakfast order gets messed up.

[MakeItRain]

Dennis Dodd reported that the Big 12 is confident that the way their agreements are written ensures that the Big 12 can still enforce the grant of rights on other schools, even if there is only 1 school remaining in the Big 12.

I kinda hope KSU just says eff it and rides this bitch all the way down.

I wish there was a better option but I think that might be it

Not that this would happen, but if it did that would be damn near $500 million to a billion dollars in exit fees going to one school.

[sonofdaxjones]

Unless Dennis Dodd is directly quoting an official source I trust nothing he says about the business of college athletics