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« Reply #30350 on: January 18, 2019, 05:37:26 PM »
Uh, the 2019 Big 12 Championship doesn't have a tv contract yet.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2019/01/14/Media/Big-12.aspx

This isn't in that article but Ourand said that Fox wanted to put the game on FS1 and the conference told them to eff off.

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« Reply #30351 on: January 19, 2019, 12:28:57 AM »
Seems obvious that it’s gonna be ESPN, but since they got leverage now it’s just a matter of seeing how cheaply they can get it, no?

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« Reply #30352 on: January 19, 2019, 01:47:40 PM »
Yeah it's probably going to be ESPN, but it can possibly be a way for someone else to enter the race and consequently become involved with the next television contract negotiations. If NBC Universal becomes interested things will get very compelling.

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« Reply #30353 on: January 19, 2019, 02:36:12 PM »
Uh, the 2019 Big 12 Championship doesn't have a tv contract yet.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2019/01/14/Media/Big-12.aspx

This isn't in that article but Ourand said that Fox wanted to put the game on FS1 and the conference told them to eff off.

As they should

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« Reply #30354 on: January 23, 2019, 11:35:53 AM »
Eff Fox Sports.  They’ll never get ratings good enough to compete with ABC/ESPN as long as they are stuck broadcasting 11:00 am kickoff slots.
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« Reply #30355 on: January 23, 2019, 02:56:36 PM »
Eff Fox Sports.  They’ll never get ratings good enough to compete with ABC/ESPN as long as they are stuck broadcasting 11:00 am kickoff slots.
espn broadcasts 11 am kicks  :dunno:


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« Reply #30356 on: January 23, 2019, 04:06:07 PM »
think i read somewhere that 11am tv ratings are better than the afternoon slots, basically get used to them they aren't going anywhere.

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« Reply #30357 on: January 23, 2019, 04:19:29 PM »
I know that personally 11 am kicks are the easiest to plan the rest of my Saturday around when I am watching the game on tv. If I am attending the game, 2:30 or 3:00 works best, but that is the worst time slot if I am planning on watching at home. I rarely watch any non-KSU game during that time slot. It's best to be at 11 am or late at night.

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« Reply #30358 on: January 23, 2019, 10:01:14 PM »
11am is my favorite time slot for games we should definitely win or definitely lose. I prefer evening for close games.

I don’t really ever want a 2:30 game.

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« Reply #30359 on: January 24, 2019, 02:03:38 PM »
11am is my favorite time slot for games we should definitely win or definitely lose. I prefer evening for close games.

I don’t really ever want a 2:30 game.

2:30 are great for slotting in after your kids sporting event is over but not too late at night.

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« Reply #30360 on: January 24, 2019, 02:15:23 PM »
I like as late as possible and hate waking up early for 11am games
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« Reply #30361 on: January 24, 2019, 02:18:44 PM »
2:30 games are even pushing it a bit as far as making me wake up early to watch.
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« Reply #30362 on: January 24, 2019, 02:21:26 PM »
I can't even say for sure that I watch games any more.

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« Reply #30363 on: January 24, 2019, 07:47:23 PM »
the best time to play is when nebraska isn’t


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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« Reply #30365 on: February 26, 2019, 11:09:02 AM »
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/26/former-big-12-president-proposes-strategic-alliance-with-the-pac-12-the-conferences-should-embrace-the-future-together/

Wefald's proposal.
Holy crap



So much to unpack, and it all involves Wefald being a weirdo

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Gee called the proposal “brilliant,’’ according to Wefald, but declined to comment.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #30366 on: February 26, 2019, 11:09:27 AM »
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/26/former-big-12-president-proposes-strategic-alliance-with-the-pac-12-the-conferences-should-embrace-the-future-together/

Wefald's proposal.
Written by top 5 DUD jon wilner.  Not surprising that there are multiple typos in it and it reads like a 3 year old scribbled it with crayons on the back of a applebees kids menu then barfed on it.

I will say that one saturday a year of wall to wall big 12 v. pac 12 games would be absolutely incredible.
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« Reply #30367 on: February 26, 2019, 11:30:18 AM »
I really like the idea of scrapping the Big 12 Championship game and having our champ just play the Pac champ instead.

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« Reply #30368 on: February 26, 2019, 11:33:23 AM »
I really like the idea of scrapping the Big 12 Championship game and having our champ just play the Pac champ instead.
I think that's a pretty horrible idea in the 4-team playoff era.  Tacking-on an extra loss to one of the two conference's best teams seems like a bad plan.


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« Reply #30369 on: February 26, 2019, 11:41:28 AM »
I really like the idea of scrapping the Big 12 Championship game and having our champ just play the Pac champ instead.
I think that's a pretty horrible idea in the 4-team playoff era.  Tacking-on an extra loss to one of the two conference's best teams seems like a bad plan.

If you have your own CCG, having your best team win the game only serves to keep them from getting eliminated. It doesn't do much to help you get into the playoffs. If you have a CCG against another major conference, your champ gives their champ a loss. That helps a lot more.

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« Reply #30370 on: February 26, 2019, 11:45:02 AM »
I've always said it's best to latch onto the sinkiest ship.
I once blew clove smoke in a guy's face that cut in front of me in the line to KJ's.

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« Reply #30371 on: February 26, 2019, 11:45:36 AM »
You're not adding an extra loss. You're losing a guaranteed in-conference loss and gaining a possible out-of-conference loss. On the whole, your conference will have fewer losses.

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« Reply #30372 on: February 26, 2019, 11:46:39 AM »
Plus that battle of champions would be an absolute cash cow. Everyone would watch it.

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« Reply #30373 on: February 26, 2019, 11:54:08 AM »
You're not adding an extra loss. You're losing a guaranteed in-conference loss and gaining a possible out-of-conference loss. On the whole, your conference will have fewer losses.
Also fewer wins.  And playing the Big 12's second best team is usually an easier task than playing the Pac 12's best team. 

I think the game will serve as an elimination game and I don't think it makes sense to add an extra, tougher hurdle for the Big 12 to pass in order to get to the playoff.  Plus, without a championship game, the Big 12 returns to the problem of crowning a "champion" in a ten team round robin.  The whole thing seems like an enormo pain in the ass with no real benefit. 


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« Reply #30374 on: February 26, 2019, 11:57:12 AM »
What if we did this with the SEC instead?  :dunno: