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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #29500 on: October 20, 2016, 11:18:54 PM »
Don't most of those PAC schools participate in way more sports than the NCAA minimum?

Couldn't they decide to just trim the fat?

Everyone is talking about tv (i.e., football revenues) you mongoloid.

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« Reply #29501 on: October 20, 2016, 11:20:48 PM »
Mizzou wants everyone to know that it was Boren/Dodd's fault:

https://missouri.rivals.com/news/zero-trust-inside-mizzou-s-move-to-the-southeastern-conference
Did that aTm guy really write a book called "100 Year Decision"? Good grief.

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« Reply #29502 on: October 20, 2016, 11:32:58 PM »

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« Reply #29503 on: October 20, 2016, 11:36:03 PM »
i'd love to hear Doug go off on this subject when he is a solid 4
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GOTTLIEB: “Unequivocally it’s worse for everybody. Unequivocally. I think it’s sad. You know, the great thing about old people that go to all the games, they can draw up memories of ‘I remember when Norm Stewart came in here and Big Country beat him at the buzzer.’ Nobody in the SEC has any appreciation for how good Missouri was, for Dr. Detroit and Doug Smith and Jon Sundvold and all those guys. Nobody has any appreciation for it. There’s sweat equity. They cut off the sweat equity…Missouri was synonymous with the Big Eight. Colorado, Missouri and the fifth down. Who gives a crap about that now? Or Matt Davison’s catch, Nebraska, Missouri. Who gives a crap now? Jason Sutherland, the most hated player in the history of the Big 12 Conference. Nobody in the SEC knows who the eff he is now. Jason Sutherland shows up at an Oklahoma State-Missouri game, he gets booed lustily. Right? They remember me. He goes to a Missouri-Kentucky game on the road, they're like, 'Who’s that?' Jason Sutherland. So? I don't think people have enough appreciation for history.”

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« Reply #29504 on: October 21, 2016, 12:36:38 AM »
Clay Travis is such a disingenuous piece of crap. They don't give a damn about Missouri, never have never will. They don't give a crap about Arkansas and Missouri is lower on the totem pole than they are. All Mizzou was for the SEC was a dick measuring contest; "look what we did to the Big 12, now take your ass out east." Aside from K-Staters and KU fans that are from the Kansas City area, no one in this conference misses them at all. Congrats Missouri you are the Maryland, Colorado, Boston College, and Rutgers of conference expansion; no one gives a crap.

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« Reply #29505 on: October 21, 2016, 09:19:16 AM »
Don't most of those PAC schools participate in way more sports than the NCAA minimum?

Couldn't they decide to just trim the fat?

Some may, but I don't think we have a realistic chance of anyone outside of ASU/UA.

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« Reply #29506 on: October 21, 2016, 09:24:27 AM »
Clay Travis is such a disingenuous piece of crap. They don't give a damn about Missouri, never have never will. They don't give a crap about Arkansas and Missouri is lower on the totem pole than they are. All Mizzou was for the SEC was a dick measuring contest; "look what we did to the Big 12, now take your ass out east." Aside from K-Staters and KU fans that are from the Kansas City area, no one in this conference misses them at all. Congrats Missouri you are the Maryland, Colorado, Boston College, and Rutgers of conference expansion; no one gives a crap.


All of this.

I ended up getting a free suite ticket to a Sprint Center game between Mizzou and Hawaii a couple years back.  That place was maybe...maaaaybe...a third full.  And not a single person could give a crap about the game.  The only thing that got them going was some football video at halftime and James Franklin's injured ass walking around in a letter jacket.

I'd argue that KC as a whole lost a ton of interest in Mizzou when they left.  A ton.  And most folks that I know would rather tell them to pound sand than schedule a game with them.

Well, except the ones that want an easy win in most major sports.

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« Reply #29507 on: October 21, 2016, 09:33:44 AM »
Fans of Arizona schools would never allow them to leave the Pac12.  It's absurd that you guys are still bringing it up. 

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« Reply #29508 on: October 21, 2016, 09:37:43 AM »
Fans of Arizona schools would never allow them to leave the Pac12.  It's absurd that you guys are still bringing it up.
would be interesting to poll all 74 of them


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« Reply #29509 on: October 21, 2016, 09:42:58 AM »
I know two Arizona fans in kc. That's 2 more than missouri fans I know in kc
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« Reply #29510 on: October 21, 2016, 10:03:18 AM »
Here is another part of Arizona's gripe:

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/football/2015/10/19/9571185/arizona-wildcats-football-rich-rodriguez-goes-off-on-pac-12-scheduling-student-welfare

From Rich Rod last year:

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"I think it's ridiculous. I understand TV is going to pick the times, and they have the right to do it, and they're paying us all this money so they're able to pick the games. But every road game is a late night, and you're getting back with no open date, so you have to turn around and go back on the road again."

"Don't go on your soapbox and talk about student-athlete welfare and then have these kids get back at five or six in the morning, and then you're going to go back on the road again. If we're in it for that part of it, there's gotta be a better way. At some point, the conference has to have a little bit of ability to step in and say 'Hey, give this team one afternoon road game. Maybe all the rest of 'em are night, but give them one break so they get home at a reasonable hour'. It's silly. It really is. I'm going to complain about it now, and then I won't have to complain about it again, cuz the no open date thing is still disturbing. But the late night road game combined with no open dates is a little bit not being cognizant of what these student-athletes go through. It's not good."

A part of the ire of their new TV contract is all of the late games.  There are a lot of 8 PM start times, and the Pac 12 is very geographically dispersed.  You wouldn't think that, but think about how long it takes to fly from Phoenix to Seattle.

They'd probably play more 11 AM/2:30 PM/6:00 PM games here.  On occasion, they'd play a primetime 7:00 PM game, but depending on the time of year, that will either be 5:00 PM or 6:00 PM AZ time.  After the rest of the country hits daylight savings time, AZ gains an hour, so when they play at 8 PM in Seattle, it's 9 PM in Arizona.

Again, very slim chance, but there's been a lot of anger fermenting from them over the last several years.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #29511 on: October 21, 2016, 10:09:54 AM »
think of how long it takes to fly from scottsdale to morgantown via wherever you have to fly to before you drive to morgantown

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« Reply #29512 on: October 21, 2016, 10:12:29 AM »
think of how long it takes to fly from scottsdale to morgantown via wherever you have to fly to before you drive to morgantown
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« Reply #29513 on: October 21, 2016, 10:27:39 AM »
think of how long it takes to fly from scottsdale to morgantown via wherever you have to fly to before you drive to morgantown

They would most likely prevent them from playing each other but once every several years.

If we went back to divisions, it's unlikely that they will do a strict rotation.

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« Reply #29514 on: October 21, 2016, 10:52:51 AM »
Really though, that powermizzou thing was a good read even if it was all "blame Texas and Boren". Just confirms that folks making the conference realignment decisions have the mentalities of 9 year old girls.

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« Reply #29515 on: October 21, 2016, 10:59:04 AM »
Clay Travis is such a disingenuous piece of crap. They don't give a damn about Missouri, never have never will. They don't give a crap about Arkansas and Missouri is lower on the totem pole than they are. All Mizzou was for the SEC was a dick measuring contest; "look what we did to the Big 12, now take your ass out east." Aside from K-Staters and KU fans that are from the Kansas City area, no one in this conference misses them at all. Congrats Missouri you are the Maryland, Colorado, Boston College, and Rutgers of conference expansion; no one gives a crap.


As a KC Metro native I confess to enjoying the total meltdown that the majority of the Snyder era brought to the MU fan base .   That said, you couldn't be more right.   They're just part of the SEC underclass that runs around yelling SEC SEC SEC, because that's all they have.   

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« Reply #29516 on: October 21, 2016, 11:36:08 AM »
think of how long it takes to fly from scottsdale to morgantown via wherever you have to fly to before you drive to morgantown

The latest kickoff they would have would be 4PM EDT and they would be flying east to west to get back. So even playing a 6 PM CDT kickoff against West Virginia would get them to the airport in Pittsburgh at 9PM in Arizona. They're currently playing many games where they're at halftime at 9PM Pacific time.

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« Reply #29517 on: October 21, 2016, 01:02:29 PM »
think of how long it takes to fly from scottsdale to morgantown via wherever you have to fly to before you drive to morgantown

The latest kickoff they would have would be 4PM EDT and they would be flying east to west to get back. So even playing a 6 PM CDT kickoff against West Virginia would get them to the airport in Pittsburgh at 9PM in Arizona. They're currently playing many games where they're at halftime at 9PM Pacific time.

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« Reply #29518 on: October 21, 2016, 01:24:30 PM »
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« Reply #29519 on: October 21, 2016, 01:48:07 PM »
All Arizona/Arizona St vs WVU games will be played at Arrowhead.  Problem solved. 

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« Reply #29520 on: October 22, 2016, 04:34:28 PM »
So apparently Ramsack is "Mike from Ft. Collins"  :ROFL:

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« Reply #29521 on: October 22, 2016, 05:36:28 PM »
So apparently Ramsack is "Mike from Ft. Collins"  :ROFL:

 :ROFL: I heard that too

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« Reply #29522 on: October 22, 2016, 10:16:51 PM »
So apparently Ramsack is "Mike from Ft. Collins"  :ROFL:

WTF does that mean?  I'm not Mike from Ft Collins, nor do I know who "Mike from Ft Collins" is or what he stands for.  I only started looking at this site 2-3 months ago when it was assumed that the Big 12 was going to expand because I was pretty sure CSU was going to be one of the expansion teams. 

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« Reply #29523 on: October 22, 2016, 10:18:40 PM »
So apparently Ramsack is "Mike from Ft. Collins"  :ROFL:

WTF does that mean?  I'm not Mike from Ft Collins, nor do I know who "Mike from Ft Collins" is or what he stands for.  I only started looking at this site 2-3 months ago when it was assumed that the Big 12 was going to expand because I was pretty sure CSU was going to be one of the expansion teams.


Mike, you rascal!

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« Reply #29524 on: October 22, 2016, 11:03:45 PM »
I think i speak for everyone when i say, Ill suffer this ruse no more, Mike from Ft. Collins