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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6325 on: October 18, 2010, 09:42:55 AM »
Villanova could move up from FCS to BCS AQ!  :runaway:

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« Reply #6326 on: October 22, 2010, 11:22:29 AM »
Had to bump this...it was on the THIRD page!
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Utah and Colorado will be considered rivals for that purpose.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5711336&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

Looks like the Buffs went from Texas being their bitch, to the 4 Cali schools being their bitches.
4x's the amount of ass-raping...good choice Buffs!

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6327 on: October 22, 2010, 12:06:16 PM »
Had to bump this...it was on the THIRD page!
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Pac-12 divisions set:
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Utah and Colorado will be considered rivals for that purpose.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5711336&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

Looks like the Buffs went from being Texas' being their bitch, to being the 4 Cali schools' being their bitches.
4x's the amount of ass-raping...good choice Buffs!



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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6328 on: October 22, 2010, 01:07:58 PM »
yeah, thx. I'm an idiot! :thumbsup:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6329 on: October 22, 2010, 09:38:05 PM »
GRUMBLINGS :pray:



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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6330 on: October 22, 2010, 09:39:46 PM »
GRUMBLINGS :pray:

Feel free to PM said grumblings

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6331 on: October 22, 2010, 09:42:39 PM »
GRUMBLINGS :pray:

Feel free to PM said grumblings

not so fast. word is this would take 2-4 years and depend on how a couple things play out



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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6332 on: October 22, 2010, 09:47:39 PM »
GRUMBLINGS :pray:

Feel free to PM said grumblings

not so fast. word is this would take 2-4 years and depend on how a couple things play out

oh, that's different, don't PM that bullshit. 

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« Reply #6333 on: October 22, 2010, 09:52:39 PM »
GRUMBLINGS :pray:

Feel free to PM said grumblings

not so fast. word is this would take 2-4 years and depend on how a couple things play out

oh, that's different, don't PM that bullcac. 

Grumblings turn into rumblings that turn into whispers and pretty soon we're hearing tweets about breadsticks.
Just saying there are fortunes to be won or lost by K-State on this deal



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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6334 on: October 25, 2010, 01:25:05 PM »
ESPN makes bid for Longhorns network

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By JOHN OURAND and MICHAEL SMITH
Staff writers
Published October 25, 2010 : Page 01


ESPN has countered a bid by Fox Sports to operate a University of Texas channel and is now viewed by industry insiders as a legitimate competitor to partner with the school on a Longhorns network.

ESPN’s pitch has been buoyed by John Skipper, the network’s executive vice president of content, who recently has engaged officials from Texas and the school’s multimedia rights holder, IMG College, in the negotiations.

Though Skipper has not traveled to Texas for these negotiations, sources said he has been more engaged with IMG College, which is handling the bidding process.

While Texas and IMG originally expected to have a network partner selected by the end of the month, sources say the timetable has shifted and likely will move into November. August is targeted for the formal launch of a Longhorns network, with programming from all of the school’s athletic teams on the channel.

IMG also has had discussions with AT&T, DirecTV, Time Warner Cable and Comcast, as well as private equity firms, in its search for a partner to run the new network. But the competition appears to be down to Fox and ESPN, two networks well-versed in launching channels and navigating the travails of distribution.

Representatives from Fox and ESPN declined to comment on the ongoing talks.

Each network brings strengths to the bidding. Fox guarantees instant distribution with its trio of Fox College Sports channels ? FCS Atlantic, FCS Central and FCS Pacific ? any one of which could be turned into a Longhorns network. Texas officials are said to covet that kind of distribution, which has been traditionally hard to attain for startup networks like this.

The school also is enamored by the strength of ESPN’s brand and believes an association with it will add credibility to a fledgling network. One executive close to the talks said school officials like the cachet of being with ESPN.

ESPN’s value is believed to be in its creative development on the programming side, something school officials deem critical to the network’s long-term sustainability.

Texas’ marquee football and basketball games will go to the Big 12 Conference’s media partners ? Fox and ABC/ESPN ? leaving, at best, one live football game and a handful of live basketball games for the new network. That means the majority of original football and basketball coverage on the new network would come through shoulder programming and studio shows.

Fox owns the cable rights to the Big 12 through 2011-12 and ABC/ESPN owns the network rights through 2015-16, but any games not picked up by those networks would be available for broadcast to Texas.

The Fox and ESPN bids include a financial investment to start the network and resources to make its content appealing, from sports shows to entertainment programming from the school’s Austin, Texas, home.

Two weeks ago, Fox Sports appeared to be the clear front-runner, but ESPN announced its interest in a big way last week when Skipper took on a greater role in the talks.

Texas Athletic Director DeLoss Dodds has said that Texas will not have an ownership stake in the new channel. Industry sources say a number of ownership scenarios are still being considered. One scenario has IMG College and the media partner creating a network as a joint venture, in which case Texas would receive a rights fee and would not have an ownership stake.

Another scenario exists that involves Texas joining IMG College and the media partner in a three-way deal in which revenue would be shared among them.

Dodds has said that Texas can expect about $3 million in annual revenue from the new network once it’s launched, and the revenue would increase based on the network’s success. The Longhorns are not expected to carry any risk if the network were to fail.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6335 on: October 25, 2010, 01:34:37 PM »
ESPN makes bid for Longhorns network

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By JOHN OURAND and MICHAEL SMITH
Staff writers
Published October 25, 2010 : Page 01


ESPN has countered a bid by Fox Sports to operate a University of Texas channel and is now viewed by industry insiders as a legitimate competitor to partner with the school on a Longhorns network.

ESPN’s pitch has been buoyed by John Skipper, the network’s executive vice president of content, who recently has engaged officials from Texas and the school’s multimedia rights holder, IMG College, in the negotiations.

Though Skipper has not traveled to Texas for these negotiations, sources said he has been more engaged with IMG College, which is handling the bidding process.

While Texas and IMG originally expected to have a network partner selected by the end of the month, sources say the timetable has shifted and likely will move into November. August is targeted for the formal launch of a Longhorns network, with programming from all of the school’s athletic teams on the channel.

IMG also has had discussions with AT&T, DirecTV, Time Warner Cable and Comcast, as well as private equity firms, in its search for a partner to run the new network. But the competition appears to be down to Fox and ESPN, two networks well-versed in launching channels and navigating the travails of distribution.

Representatives from Fox and ESPN declined to comment on the ongoing talks.

Each network brings strengths to the bidding. Fox guarantees instant distribution with its trio of Fox College Sports channels ? FCS Atlantic, FCS Central and FCS Pacific ? any one of which could be turned into a Longhorns network. Texas officials are said to covet that kind of distribution, which has been traditionally hard to attain for startup networks like this.

The school also is enamored by the strength of ESPN’s brand and believes an association with it will add credibility to a fledgling network. One executive close to the talks said school officials like the cachet of being with ESPN.

ESPN’s value is believed to be in its creative development on the programming side, something school officials deem critical to the network’s long-term sustainability.

Texas’ marquee football and basketball games will go to the Big 12 Conference’s media partners ? Fox and ABC/ESPN ? leaving, at best, one live football game and a handful of live basketball games for the new network. That means the majority of original football and basketball coverage on the new network would come through shoulder programming and studio shows.

Fox owns the cable rights to the Big 12 through 2011-12 and ABC/ESPN owns the network rights through 2015-16, but any games not picked up by those networks would be available for broadcast to Texas.

The Fox and ESPN bids include a financial investment to start the network and resources to make its content appealing, from sports shows to entertainment programming from the school’s Austin, Texas, home.

Two weeks ago, Fox Sports appeared to be the clear front-runner, but ESPN announced its interest in a big way last week when Skipper took on a greater role in the talks.

Texas Athletic Director DeLoss Dodds has said that Texas will not have an ownership stake in the new channel. Industry sources say a number of ownership scenarios are still being considered. One scenario has IMG College and the media partner creating a network as a joint venture, in which case Texas would receive a rights fee and would not have an ownership stake.

Another scenario exists that involves Texas joining IMG College and the media partner in a three-way deal in which revenue would be shared among them.

Dodds has said that Texas can expect about $3 million in annual revenue from the new network once it’s launched, and the revenue would increase based on the network’s success. The Longhorns are not expected to carry any risk if the network were to fail.

I hear were are bidding out our TV network to PBS. Its going to cost us a Million a year and no HD but we get those cool PBS tote bags. :ksu:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6336 on: October 25, 2010, 01:36:49 PM »
We could probably make some walking around money if we go in with KU on a deal couldn't we? 

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« Reply #6337 on: October 25, 2010, 01:38:09 PM »
We could probably make some walking around money if we go in with KU on a deal couldn't we? 

I would think that you would need to include MU too. 

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« Reply #6338 on: October 25, 2010, 01:39:31 PM »
We could probably make some walking around money if we go in with KU on a deal couldn't we?  

I would think that you would need to include MU too.  

My guess is MU still has B10 dreams and would be an awkward fit.  Also, you'd think it would be easier with just KS schools given the BOR and all that or whatever.  Then again, I really don't have a rough ridin' clue what I'm talking about.  

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« Reply #6339 on: October 25, 2010, 01:43:20 PM »
We could probably make some walking around money if we go in with KU on a deal couldn't we? 

On a serious note I have heard that there are talks on going with Okie Lite, Oklahoma, Kansas, Kansas State, and Missouri to split a network. Oklahoma has crunched the numbers and does not think it has the views to make it work on there own.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6340 on: October 25, 2010, 01:52:47 PM »
We could probably make some walking around money if we go in with KU on a deal couldn't we? 

On a serious note I have heard that there are talks on going with Okie Lite, Oklahoma, Kansas, Kansas State, and Missouri to split a network. Oklahoma has crunched the numbers and does not think it has the views to make it work on there own.

that's bs.  ou can and will most definitely have their own network. 

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6341 on: October 25, 2010, 01:53:46 PM »
Had to bump this...it was on the THIRD page!
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Pac-12 divisions set:
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Utah and Colorado will be considered rivals for that purpose.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5711336&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

Looks like the Buffs went from Texas being their bitch, to the 4 Cali schools being their bitches.
4x's the amount of ass-raping...good choice Buffs!




Interesting idea playing the CCG at the home field of the division winner with the best record.

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« Reply #6342 on: October 25, 2010, 02:24:02 PM »
We could probably make some walking around money if we go in with KU on a deal couldn't we?  

I would think that you would need to include MU too.  

My guess is MU still has B10 dreams and would be an awkward fit.  Also, you'd think it would be easier with just KS schools given the BOR and all that or whatever.  Then again, I really don't have a effing clue what I'm talking about.  

Good fit for the time being though.  All three prominent Kc area markets.
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« Reply #6343 on: October 25, 2010, 02:42:01 PM »
ku and mu will probably do it together and we'll be left with isu and a bunch of wrestling meets and with singlets and stuff.  :frown:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6344 on: October 25, 2010, 02:49:05 PM »
We could have the Flint Hills Network.  Us, Emporia State, someone else, Hutch Juco, and the sleeper team, Notre Dame.


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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« Reply #6345 on: October 25, 2010, 02:52:31 PM »
ku and mu will probably do it together

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6346 on: October 25, 2010, 03:03:08 PM »
We could probably make some walking around money if we go in with KU on a deal couldn't we? 

On a serious note I have heard that there are talks on going with Okie Lite, Oklahoma, Kansas, Kansas State, and Missouri to split a network. Oklahoma has crunched the numbers and does not think it has the views to make it work on there own.

that's bs.  ou can and will most definitely have their own network. 

Not by themselves they won't. 

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« Reply #6347 on: October 25, 2010, 03:17:34 PM »
you have low bandwagon fan iq

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« Reply #6348 on: October 25, 2010, 03:33:01 PM »
you have low bandwagon fan iq

You have a stupid Oklahoma means something out side of Oklahoma IQ. Oklahoma has little value outside of Oklahoma. Texas has the state of Texas and also has a bigger outside following.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6349 on: October 25, 2010, 03:35:01 PM »
you have low bandwagon fan iq

You have a stupid Oklahoma means something out side of Oklahoma IQ. Oklahoma has little value outside of Oklahoma. Texas has the state of Texas and also has a bigger outside following.

From my scientific observation over the last several years I would say that Oklahoma does in fact have a following outside of Oklahoma. 
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