Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Pete]

The Big 12 looks particularly stupid and futile this year, but these things cycle.

Having said that, I am still in favor of grabbing 4 stiffs and making them take pennies on the dollar and profit maximize this thing.

[TheHamburglar]

I've never seen anything credible that we picked wvu over Louisville, I've only seen it as a singular issue.  Which, even though they had a bit of a crisis with their football team, their basketball team should have been a must get.   Wasn't that when Charlie was just getting situated after the dumpster fire with Patrino into Kragthorpe eras.

At the time a majority of people were saying WVU was a power school getting left behind and Louisville was a CUSA school that was lucky to be in a temporary power conference in the CUSA 2.0 version of the Big East.  There was a lot of "WVU has always been power, if Louisville was a power conference school they never would have been in CUSA" (like Cincy now).  Plus WVU was a year removed from a final four.  Looking back, Louisville would have been a good choice, but public perception was greatly in WVU's favor.  Charlie had 1 year done at the time.

I'm not saying WVU was right, but if we took Louisville over WVU a majority of people would have said "wtf" and "Old Boren cutting a deal with his old buddies".

[Panjandrum]

The Big 12 looks particularly stupid and futile this year, but these things cycle.

Having said that, I am still in favor of grabbing 4 stiffs and making them take pennies on the dollar and profit maximize this thing.

No conference looks particularly strong. There are a handful of elites and everyone else can lose at any given time.

We just look bad because our perceived elite teams have already crap the bed. Oklahoma isn't nearly as good as they should be.

[Panjandrum]

I've never seen anything credible that we picked wvu over Louisville, I've only seen it as a singular issue.  Which, even though they had a bit of a crisis with their football team, their basketball team should have been a must get.   Wasn't that when Charlie was just getting situated after the dumpster fire with Patrino into Kragthorpe eras.

At the time a majority of people were saying WVU was a power school getting left behind and Louisville was a CUSA school that was lucky to be in a temporary power conference in the CUSA 2.0 version of the Big East.  There was a lot of "WVU has always been power, if Louisville was a power conference school they never would have been in CUSA" (like Cincy now).  Plus WVU was a year removed from a final four.  Looking back, Louisville would have been a good choice, but public perception was greatly in WVU's favor.  Charlie had 1 year done at the time.

I'm not saying WVU was right, but if we took Louisville over WVU a majority of people would have said "wtf" and "Old Boren cutting a deal with his old buddies".

WVU is #20 in all-time wins, and I believe they are the winningest FBS program without a national title.  Even though I think they have played for a couple in their history.

Also, at the time we took them, they had just gotten done thrashing Clemson in the Orange Bowl, and a few years removed from kicking Oklahoma's ass in the Fiesta Bowl.

WVU was the safer play between the two.  But there was no reason to stop at two.  We only stopped at two because they did all of that analysis with the consultants about Louisville + someone else not adding value.  But that was beside the point.  We see what Louisville is with P5 money, and it's safe to bet Cincy would probably be a consistent bowl team with P5 money and access to Ohio talent.

But, hey, short term dollars.

[MadCat]

Because we base all decisions on the outcome of football games...

Silly reporters

[MadCat]

I haven't read through the linked site, so FWIW: http://www.big12expansion.com/

[PIPE]

I guess now we might not be expanding?

http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-expansion-oklahoma-sooners-texas-longhorns-david-boren-2018459914.html

[Gooch]

Boren really needs to just STFU

[Panjandrum]

Boren really needs to just STFU

Texas could big dog everyone else and get 8 votes for Houston if they want them. OU and OSU would just vote no.

Thamel saying OU holds the cards isn't really true. Texas is the one with real options. They hold the vast majority of the cards.

[Gooch]

Boren really needs to just STFU

Texas could big dog everyone else and get 8 votes for Houston if they want them. OU and OSU would just vote no.

Thamel saying OU holds the cards isn't really true. Texas is the one with real options. They hold the vast majority of the cards.

Full disclosure: I did not read that article. I was just stating a fact.

[TheHamburglar]

I checked in on LandTheives again.  They've convinced themselves that the OU legal team wrote the GOR and left a loophole in it only OU knows about to get themselves out.  I've read a lot of delusional statement on realignment and that might be the craziest.

[Yard Dog]

https://twitter.com/cbfowler/status/780957432835039232

[Panjandrum]

I checked in on LandTheives again.  They've convinced themselves that the OU legal team wrote the GOR and left a loophole in it only OU knows about to get themselves out.  I've read a lot of delusional of realignment and that might be the craziest.

They are dumbest damn fan base. They currently make a ton of money, co-run a P5 conference, and have a top 5 recruiting class, and they're coming off a year where they were in the playoff and Final Four in the same year. But, obviously, being in the Big 12 is detrimental to their cause.

[kstatefan11]

Ian Campbell (on with Nate and Steven) thinks there are still two divisions. Thinks Cats can win the North, though!

[Rage Against the McKee]

He was so good until he went Hollywood on us. Tragic.

[KITNfury]

I checked in on LandTheives again.  They've convinced themselves that the OU legal team wrote the GOR and left a loophole in it only OU knows about to get themselves out.  I've read a lot of delusional of realignment and that might be the craziest.

They are dumbest damn fan base. They currently make a ton of money, co-run a P5 conference, and have a top 5 recruiting class, and they're coming off a year where they were in the playoff and Final Four in the same year. But, obviously, being in the Big 12 is detrimental to their cause.

My thoughts exactly.  They already have prestige and recruit well,  but hey maybe if they made a few million more,  they'll be like Alabama. 

[deputy dawg]

I checked in on LandTheives again.  They've convinced themselves that the OU legal team wrote the GOR and left a loophole in it only OU knows about to get themselves out.  I've read a lot of delusional statement on realignment and that might be the craziest.

They refer to us as one of the little brothers.  Little brothers have no options without riding the coattails of bluebloods like OU, and they would rather be in a position of making more money by not having little brothers riding their coattails.  Or something like that.

[WildcatNkilt]

I checked in on LandTheives again.  They've convinced themselves that the OU legal team wrote the GOR and left a loophole in it only OU knows about to get themselves out.  I've read a lot of delusional of realignment and that might be the craziest.

They are dumbest damn fan base. They currently make a ton of money, co-run a P5 conference, and have a top 5 recruiting class, and they're coming off a year where they were in the playoff and Final Four in the same year. But, obviously, being in the Big 12 is detrimental to their cause.

My thoughts exactly.  They already have prestige and recruit well,  but hey maybe if they made a few million more,  they'll be like Alabama.

Sometimes I think to myself that even though it would suck for teams like KSU, it would be hilarious to see movers remorse if OU went to the SEC.  Reoccurring 8-win seasons and never seeing a conference championship or playoff birth would drive them to a whole other level of crazy.  It would put a smile on my face and I would rub it in like I do to Nebraska fans.

[sonofdaxjones]

Maybe this will be the year Nebraska actually does something, but as of now, they don't even register on the radar in terms of welding any real power in the Big 10.   I know one of the favorite things of Cornhole and MethU fans is to constantly tout how everyone gets along in their respective conferences, but at the end of the day both schools exist at the leisure of the true traditional conference powers in both conferences who will expect both to to fall in line should things ever get contentious. 

The Corn held much more power in the Big 12. 

[KITNfury]

I checked in on LandTheives again.  They've convinced themselves that the OU legal team wrote the GOR and left a loophole in it only OU knows about to get themselves out.  I've read a lot of delusional of realignment and that might be the craziest.

They are dumbest damn fan base. They currently make a ton of money, co-run a P5 conference, and have a top 5 recruiting class, and they're coming off a year where they were in the playoff and Final Four in the same year. But, obviously, being in the Big 12 is detrimental to their cause.

My thoughts exactly.  They already have prestige and recruit well,  but hey maybe if they made a few million more,  they'll be like Alabama.

Sometimes I think to myself that even though it would suck for teams like KSU, it would be hilarious to see movers remorse if OU went to the SEC.  Reoccurring 8-win seasons and never seeing a conference championship or playoff birth would drive them to a whole other level of crazy.  It would put a smile on my face and I would rub it in like I do to Nebraska fans.

OU would do fine in the SEC.  But they wouldn't dominate like they typically do here.  They'd still nab the occasional conference championship though.  But they wouldn't make the playoffs as often,  which if K-State were a blue-blood,  is what I would care about.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Assuming OSU goes with them, the SEC would probably put OU in the west and OSU in the east. It would be difficult for the Sooners to watch OSU play for (and lose) the SEC championship every year.

[MadCat]

That move would be much better for OSU than it would be for OU (regardless of division placement).

[Panjandrum]

Assuming OSU goes with them, the SEC would probably put OU in the west and OSU in the east. It would be difficult for the Sooners to watch OSU play for (and lose) the SEC championship every year.

The SEC won't take OSU.  It's a non-starter.  It's one of the reasons no serious discussions between the two conferences ever took place in 2009 and 2011.

[catastrophe]

Maybe this will be the year Nebraska actually does something, but as of now, they don't even register on the radar in terms of welding any real power in the Big 10.   I know one of the favorite things of Cornhole and MethU fans is to constantly tout how everyone gets along in their respective conferences, but at the end of the day both schools exist at the leisure of the true traditional conference powers in both conferences who will expect both to to fall in line should things ever get contentious. 

The Corn held much more power in the Big 12.

I think this will turn out to be true.  It's only a matter of time before schools like Nebraska and Missouri realize that by moving out of the Big 12 they really only changed who bossed them around in the conference.  It's not like they have any more sayso in the Big 10 or SEC than they had here.  Unlike the others, A&M is probably still ok with that because they just wanted to be out of Texas's shadow.  As long as Texas doesn't move to the SEC, A&M is fine with its current setup.

[deputy dawg]

Maybe this will be the year Nebraska actually does something, but as of now, they don't even register on the radar in terms of welding any real power in the Big 10.   I know one of the favorite things of Cornhole and MethU fans is to constantly tout how everyone gets along in their respective conferences, but at the end of the day both schools exist at the leisure of the true traditional conference powers in both conferences who will expect both to to fall in line should things ever get contentious. 

The Corn held much more power in the Big 12.

I think this will turn out to be true.  It's only a matter of time before schools like Nebraska and Missouri realize that by moving out of the Big 12 they really only changed who bossed them around in the conference.  It's not like they have any more sayso in the Big 10 or SEC than they had here.  Unlike the others, A&M is probably still ok with that because they just wanted to be out of Texas's shadow.  As long as Texas doesn't move to the SEC, A&M is fine with its current setup.

Is Colorado irrelevant in the Pac 12 because they turned into a dumpster fire as soon as they switched, or are they irrelevant because they're Colorado?