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« Reply #6300 on: October 11, 2010, 08:51:24 PM »
http://ksu.ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=456920 Here is what I found on Big East expansion rumors.

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« Reply #6301 on: October 11, 2010, 08:53:35 PM »
If all those schools bolt, wouldn't we get one hell of a payday?  foooock, going indy for a year might be worth it.

You have to be heavily affiliated with a religion to go indy. Everyone knows this....  :users:

Now that ive tee'ed this up, lets see where else this ludicrous thread can go...  :gocho:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6302 on: October 11, 2010, 10:13:06 PM »
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Greg Swaim ?@JonVoy: @GSwaim RUMOR: The Big East is about to issue invites to Kansas -Oklahoma-Oklahoma State-Missouri-TCU.


This dude is a recruiting guru and radio talk show host in Oklahoma...He IS pretty connected and might know something...but where the hell would THIS be coming from?

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You idiots need Cap Crap to explain common sense?  So OU, OSU, KU, and Mizzou are going to trade in the reliable Audi they are driving for a '92 Geo Metro?  Just because the Big East asks doesn't mean they're saying yes.  This is like stormnut asking for a chick under 3 bills to sleep with him, its a nice thought but it ain't happenin'.

Use your heads, do you really think those schools want to be in the same conversation with a conference that is also considering Villanova and UMASS?  Good God.  BTW, New York Post, pffffttt.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6303 on: October 11, 2010, 10:14:39 PM »
If all those schools bolt, wouldn't we get one hell of a payday? 

No, you idiot.  Did you really come from GPC like they say?  Because that would explain a hell of a lot.

You have to type in really, really big letters for him to understand you.

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« Reply #6304 on: October 12, 2010, 08:40:05 AM »
Or we stay put, stick with TX, and watch a few nice schools come into the conf to fill it back up.

Prolly wouldn't work.  Other schools would need a year to bail from their conferences.  UT could go indy for a year, but no one else could afford to.

so would those defecting from our conf.  

Even if it just dissolved at once?  So if this were to happen tomorrow we'd have 1 year in the 10 team big 12?  Doesn't seem likely.

When we were 12, iirc, the rule was that it took 8 votes to dissolve.  Don't know what the new rules are, but it seems like 4 would be too few to make that vote happen. 

Just FYI, if a school announces an intention to leave the conference, they don't get a vote on conference matters. This includes the vote on whether to dissolve. So if the south schools had left for the Pac10, the remaining 4 north schools would be the only voting members left. They would have not voted to dissolve (keep the BCS auto bid, brand name etc) and would have collected liquidated damages $$ from 8 schools (around $80M or more split 4 ways).

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« Reply #6305 on: October 12, 2010, 08:42:37 AM »
BSAC can confirm, but generally speaking, you don't ask a question like this when you don't already know the answer.
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« Reply #6306 on: October 12, 2010, 08:57:55 AM »
BSAC can confirm, but generally speaking, you don't ask a question like this when you don't already know the answer.

Really wow!  I didn't know Notre Dame went to the Big 10, and Texas, OU, and OSU went to the Pac 10, and A&M had their choice of the Pac 10 and the SEC.  Thanks for letting me know.  Where the Hell have you been?  This whole thing is about rumors of people asking the question they have no idea what the answer is going to be.  Lots and lots of stupid and really wrong rumors.

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« Reply #6307 on: October 12, 2010, 09:14:14 AM »
how on earth does the big east make any sense for those schools?  travel will be a rough ridin' bear and it isn't a strong conf.

Better to try and pick off AU/ASU and BYU.  ND and Ark on a hail mary

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6308 on: October 12, 2010, 09:16:12 AM »
I dunno guys. I'm hearing a lot of rumblings right now. My D+ sources say a shake-up is definitely coming. The Big East means business. :surprised:
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« Reply #6309 on: October 12, 2010, 09:45:45 AM »
think if there are any kool leaguez on Earth 2 we get would get an invite? :cry:

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« Reply #6310 on: October 12, 2010, 09:54:10 AM »
I'm thinking of starting a clandestine conference that bases revenue sharing on embezzled funds.  As a member, K-State can use this as a hedge against conference realignment.  What other schools should I invite?  I was thinking about inviting the University of Phoenix since they have more money than they know what to do with, in case they decide to field athletic teams (aside from the Arizona Cardinals, of course).

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« Reply #6311 on: October 12, 2010, 09:56:30 AM »
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Greg Swaim ?@JonVoy: @GSwaim RUMOR: The Big East is about to issue invites to Kansas -Oklahoma-Oklahoma State-Missouri-TCU.


This dude is a recruiting guru and radio talk show host in Oklahoma...He IS pretty connected and might know something...but where the hell would THIS be coming from?

From the other joint.

Would love to hear from Capt. Crap about this.

Capt. Crap he's our hero bring powerespect rumors down to zero.



You idiots need Cap Crap to explain common sense?  So OU, OSU, KU, and Mizzou are going to trade in the reliable Audi they are driving for a '92 Geo Metro?  Just because the Big East asks doesn't mean they're saying yes.  This is like stormnut asking for a chick under 3 bills to sleep with him, its a nice thought but it ain't happenin'.

Use your heads, do you really think those schools want to be in the same conversation with a conference that is also considering Villanova and UMASS?  Good God.  BTW, New York Post, pffffttt.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6312 on: October 12, 2010, 09:57:24 AM »
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Greg Swaim ?@JonVoy: @GSwaim RUMOR: The Big East is about to issue invites to Kansas -Oklahoma-Oklahoma State-Missouri-TCU.


This dude is a recruiting guru and radio talk show host in Oklahoma...He IS pretty connected and might know something...but where the hell would THIS be coming from?

From the other joint.

Would love to hear from Capt. Crap about this.

Capt. Crap he's our hero bring powerespect rumors down to zero.



You idiots need Cap Crap to explain common sense?  So OU, OSU, KU, and Mizzou are going to trade in the reliable Audi they are driving for a '92 Geo Metro?  Just because the Big East asks doesn't mean they're saying yes.  This is like stormnut asking for a chick under 3 bills to sleep with him, its a nice thought but it ain't happenin'.

Use your heads, do you really think those schools want to be in the same conversation with a conference that is also considering Villanova and UMASS?  Good God.  BTW, New York Post, pffffttt.

Some one woke up on the Black side of the bed this morning. :blah:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6313 on: October 12, 2010, 10:00:06 AM »
I'm thinking of starting a clandestine conference that bases revenue sharing on embezzled funds.  As a member, K-State can use this as a hedge against conference realignment.  What other schools should I invite?  I was thinking about inviting the University of Phoenix since they have more money than they know what to do with, in case they decide to field athletic teams (aside from the Arizona Cardinals, of course).

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« Reply #6314 on: October 12, 2010, 01:20:10 PM »
So Chum-  Now that Captain Crap has validated my post would you like me to take my dick out of your mouth or do you want to continue gobbling that male genitals?

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« Reply #6315 on: October 12, 2010, 01:30:43 PM »
Or we stay put, stick with TX, and watch a few nice schools come into the conf to fill it back up.

Prolly wouldn't work.  Other schools would need a year to bail from their conferences.  UT could go indy for a year, but no one else could afford to.

so would those defecting from our conf.  

Even if it just dissolved at once?  So if this were to happen tomorrow we'd have 1 year in the 10 team big 12?  Doesn't seem likely.

When we were 12, iirc, the rule was that it took 8 votes to dissolve.  Don't know what the new rules are, but it seems like 4 would be too few to make that vote happen. 

Just FYI, if a school announces an intention to leave the conference, they don't get a vote on conference matters. This includes the vote on whether to dissolve. So if the south schools had left for the Pac10, the remaining 4 north schools would be the only voting members left. They would have not voted to dissolve (keep the BCS auto bid, brand name etc) and would have collected liquidated damages $$ from 8 schools (around $80M or more split 4 ways).

If this hypothetical actually happened I think legally it would not have been so cut and dry.  Any good attorney can question what constitutes a conference and what doesn't, there would be some ambiguity here.

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« Reply #6316 on: October 12, 2010, 01:55:03 PM »
Or we stay put, stick with TX, and watch a few nice schools come into the conf to fill it back up.

Prolly wouldn't work.  Other schools would need a year to bail from their conferences.  UT could go indy for a year, but no one else could afford to.

so would those defecting from our conf. 

Even if it just dissolved at once?  So if this were to happen tomorrow we'd have 1 year in the 10 team big 12?  Doesn't seem likely.

When we were 12, iirc, the rule was that it took 8 votes to dissolve.  Don't know what the new rules are, but it seems like 4 would be too few to make that vote happen. 

Just FYI, if a school announces an intention to leave the conference, they don't get a vote on conference matters. This includes the vote on whether to dissolve. So if the south schools had left for the Pac10, the remaining 4 north schools would be the only voting members left. They would have not voted to dissolve (keep the BCS auto bid, brand name etc) and would have collected liquidated damages $$ from 8 schools (around $80M or more split 4 ways).

If this hypothetical actually happened I think legally it would not have been so cut and dry.  Any good attorney can question what constitutes a conference and what doesn't, there would be some ambiguity here.
You're spot on, this was discussed at length during the drama last summer.  The term "viable" in "viable conference" can be debated.


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« Reply #6317 on: October 12, 2010, 01:58:41 PM »
Totally true.  The term "term" can totally be questioned in a court of law.  You guys must be some sort of law professors or something.

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« Reply #6318 on: October 12, 2010, 02:01:45 PM »
Or we stay put, stick with TX, and watch a few nice schools come into the conf to fill it back up.

Prolly wouldn't work.  Other schools would need a year to bail from their conferences.  UT could go indy for a year, but no one else could afford to.

so would those defecting from our conf.  

Even if it just dissolved at once?  So if this were to happen tomorrow we'd have 1 year in the 10 team big 12?  Doesn't seem likely.

When we were 12, iirc, the rule was that it took 8 votes to dissolve.  Don't know what the new rules are, but it seems like 4 would be too few to make that vote happen. 

Just FYI, if a school announces an intention to leave the conference, they don't get a vote on conference matters. This includes the vote on whether to dissolve. So if the south schools had left for the Pac10, the remaining 4 north schools would be the only voting members left. They would have not voted to dissolve (keep the BCS auto bid, brand name etc) and would have collected liquidated damages $$ from 8 schools (around $80M or more split 4 ways).

If this hypothetical actually happened I think legally it would not have been so cut and dry.  Any good attorney can question what constitutes a conference and what doesn't, there would be some ambiguity here.

If no other schools came forward to replace those that left, then yes, that would be a problem in having a 4 team league. In this "hypothetical", the ruling from not-so-hypothetical lawyers involved indicated that since there was an understanding that other schools would be replacing those that left, the Big 12 would continue and not be dissolved - thus resulting in straight cash, homey.

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« Reply #6319 on: October 15, 2010, 12:54:56 PM »




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« Reply #6320 on: October 15, 2010, 02:58:59 PM »
Nebraska regents approve settlement

"OMAHA, Neb. -- University of Nebraska regents approved a $9.25 million settlement Friday that clears the way for the school to leave the Big 12 Conference next year for the Big Ten without going to court.

The regents approved the deal without public discussion at a meeting in Omaha. Nebraska becomes a part of the Big Ten on July 1.

The Big 12, under its bylaws, had sought to withhold 80 percent of Nebraska's actual slice of the conference payout for 2009-10 and its projected distribution for 2010-11. That would have been an estimated $19.4 million."......

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5687811

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« Reply #6321 on: October 15, 2010, 04:07:22 PM »
Those SOBs mumped us twice this year.  Better get some serious revenge this b-ball season.

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« Reply #6322 on: October 15, 2010, 04:24:55 PM »
Nebraska regents approve settlement

"OMAHA, Neb. -- University of Nebraska regents approved a $9.25 million settlement Friday that clears the way for the school to leave the Big 12 Conference next year for the Big Ten without going to court.

The regents approved the deal without public discussion at a meeting in Omaha. Nebraska becomes a part of the Big Ten on July 1.

The Big 12, under its bylaws, had sought to withhold 80 percent of Nebraska's actual slice of the conference payout for 2009-10 and its projected distribution for 2010-11. That would have been an estimated $19.4 million."......

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5687811
  Does this mean they are not worried about the incentives of being in a BCS bowl game or winning the big 12 or whatever?

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« Reply #6323 on: October 15, 2010, 04:35:50 PM »
Bowl proceeds get split (after expenses) anyway.

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« Reply #6324 on: October 15, 2010, 05:37:59 PM »
181!  :runaway: