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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34300 on: September 09, 2022, 07:50:07 PM »
They are a lot like KU, thinking they're so important as winning a CCG is like KU and their BB championship.  big 10 doesn't want either one.  :lol:

I think we're better off with SDSU, ASU, and AU.  Then see if other PAC schools will beg to join.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34301 on: September 13, 2022, 10:25:02 AM »
Joel Klatt gets it:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34303 on: September 13, 2022, 10:58:45 AM »
Did you listen to OSU's Grundy talk about conference expansion?  In a roundabout way, he gives the plan away. :lol:
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« Reply #34304 on: September 13, 2022, 02:57:42 PM »
Did you listen to OSU's Grundy talk about conference expansion?  In a roundabout way, he gives the plan away. :lol:

You talking about from a few weeks ago or are there new comments?
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34306 on: September 13, 2022, 08:04:58 PM »
Did you listen to OSU's Grundy talk about conference expansion?  In a roundabout way, he gives the plan away. :lol:

You talking about from a few weeks ago or are there new comments?

New comments; if you want I can find and post the link.
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« Reply #34307 on: September 13, 2022, 08:21:37 PM »
Pro tip, he doesn't know jack crap.

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« Reply #34308 on: September 13, 2022, 08:33:29 PM »
In his position, he knows a lot more about football and this conference than you ever will.  You do know he talked to Brett Yormark last week.
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« Reply #34309 on: September 14, 2022, 10:08:30 AM »
In his position, he knows a lot more about football and this conference than you ever will.  You do know he talked to Brett Yormark last week.

The only people that know anything are the administration at the target schools and the schools who have contracted the conference office about expansion. Unless Gundy is talking to the presidents of Pac 12 and Mountain West schools or sitting in on executive sessions of regents meetings, he doesn't know crap.

You've been all over the place in this thread, but if you go back to June 2022, July 2021, October 2016, and basically all of 2010-11, these moves have been leak free and coaches, including Gundy in the past, have expressed they weren't in the know.

If something happens in season, Gundy might find out after you. If it's out of season, he might find out a few hours before you do.

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« Reply #34310 on: September 14, 2022, 02:54:18 PM »

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34312 on: September 15, 2022, 03:35:22 AM »
ESPN is most likely of the network bidders since Fox basically told the PAC 12 to jump in a hole.  They pissed Fox off by complaining about the number of late-night games and Fox told them they should consider themselves lucky to be on a national network.  If Yormark gets the offers he wants, the PAC is over.
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« Reply #34313 on: September 15, 2022, 07:20:42 AM »
Like, $200M split 10 ways over six years is $3M per school per year. That doesn't seem like an amount to panic about.

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« Reply #34314 on: September 15, 2022, 09:05:02 AM »
There’s a difference between panicking and having an unrealistic view of how valuable your conference is.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34315 on: September 15, 2022, 09:47:57 AM »
Like, $200M split 10 ways over six years is $3M per school per year. That doesn't seem like an amount to panic about.

That is what I was thinking. Unless he is talking about the yearly number. Say ESPN is offering 240 million per year and PAC wants 440 per year. That seems unreasonable that the PAC would be that far off their value but who knows

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« Reply #34316 on: September 15, 2022, 10:09:41 AM »
Like, $200M split 10 ways over six years is $3M per school per year. That doesn't seem like an amount to panic about.

That is what I was thinking. Unless he is talking about the yearly number. Say ESPN is offering 240 million per year and PAC wants 440 per year. That seems unreasonable that the PAC would be that far off their value but who knows

He's not talking about the annual number because that wouldn't be measured in "hundreds of millions." The number is likely way higher than $200 million. Looking at context clues from what different sources have reported, my guess is that the difference is probably around $7-$10 million per school.

I listen to this podcast every week and they nailed the Big 10 deal, going all the way back to the spring. Marchand was loud wrong about the MLS deal though, but that was less about sourcing and more about his perceived value of the MLS rights.

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« Reply #34317 on: September 15, 2022, 07:32:18 PM »
I thought the early bid from ESPN was around 340 mill per year, which would be 34 mill per school.  They were wanting mid 40's per school and called it an unreasonable low bid.  I can't say this was the actual amount since no one had any paperwork to verify it.
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« Reply #34318 on: September 15, 2022, 08:31:12 PM »
The bid hasn't been reported.

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« Reply #34319 on: September 15, 2022, 08:53:34 PM »
It was guessed/estimated by several talking sports heads during the reported bid.  Like I said there was nothing in writing.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34320 on: September 16, 2022, 04:53:47 PM »
https://m.kusports.com/news/2022/sep/16/kansas-regents-taking-steps-ensure-ku-other-school/
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34321 on: September 16, 2022, 05:02:33 PM »
https://m.kusports.com/news/2022/sep/16/kansas-regents-taking-steps-ensure-ku-other-school/
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Kansas Regents taking steps to ensure KU, other schools can't change athletic conferences without prior approval

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Under the proposed policy, Rolph, Flanders and Carl Ice, the Regents' vice chair, who also is a leader of the Kansas State University Foundation, would be the three people required to grant approval for a conference change.

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« Reply #34322 on: September 16, 2022, 05:42:53 PM »
That’s some bullshit, free the Hawks.
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« Reply #34323 on: September 16, 2022, 06:05:26 PM »
That’s some bullshit, free the Hawks.

They’ve been free for 100 years but here they are still in the same conference with kstate and Iowa state. Birds of a feather and all.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34324 on: September 16, 2022, 06:10:22 PM »
This will be a perfect scapegoat for the lack of P2 interest.
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