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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #34100 on: August 10, 2022, 07:47:47 AM »
It is the CBS number that I think is surprising for just their 3rd best game. I have seen speculation that they will also be picking up the bulk of the basketball if ESPN is totally out.

Keep in mind that ESPN paid less than that for the SECs top game of the week just a couple years ago.

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« Reply #34101 on: August 10, 2022, 08:37:59 AM »
I think they didn't want to deal with ESPN, since they gave ESPN a take it or leave it offer of $380M for the third pick.  I'm sure Fox had their hand in it.  Also, they are at $1.2B. for the top 3 games and all the other media rights are only predicted to bring another $300M.  You would think there would be more value in all the other games, which include all FB, BB, Baseball, and other sports.  Shows how valuable the top teams in the conference are; so the 50% loss for the Big XII and PAC 12 from losing their top teams sounds very reasonable.
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« Reply #34103 on: August 11, 2022, 04:33:49 PM »
No disrespect to Zach but he's a football guy out of his lane here, happens a lot with realignment and TV deals. I just heard a sports business podcast yesterday that talked about this and the industry insight is that CBS didn't have a shot at winning that SEC package, they didn't even try to keep it. ESPN and the SEC both wanted ESPN to have the package. The SEC asked CBS for some exorbitant amount of money before they opened the bid. The SEC thought, and they were correct, that CBS way underpaid for their package, for years and the SEC was pissed about it.

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« Reply #34104 on: August 11, 2022, 05:28:16 PM »
Optimistic outlook on the next Big XII network contract by a squawk from Lawrence:                                                    .
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« Reply #34105 on: August 17, 2022, 09:25:41 AM »

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« Reply #34106 on: August 17, 2022, 09:52:50 AM »
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« Reply #34107 on: August 17, 2022, 11:27:34 AM »
At what point do schools/programs start seeing diminishing returns when it comes to TV money/facility upgrades, etc?
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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« Reply #34108 on: August 17, 2022, 11:35:37 AM »
At what point do schools/programs start seeing diminishing returns when it comes to TV money/facility upgrades, etc?

What do you mean?

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« Reply #34109 on: August 17, 2022, 11:50:29 AM »
At what point do schools/programs start seeing diminishing returns when it comes to TV money/facility upgrades, etc?

What do you mean?

You can only upgrade facilities so much, you can only pay coaches so much, etc. before the ROI becomes diminished in wins, support, relevance. I don’t know what that point is.

$100M/year obv > $30M/year, but what about $120M v $90M or $250M/$100M?
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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« Reply #34110 on: August 17, 2022, 11:56:57 AM »
At what point do schools/programs start seeing diminishing returns when it comes to TV money/facility upgrades, etc?

What do you mean?

You can only upgrade facilities so much, you can only pay coaches so much, etc. before the ROI becomes diminished in wins, support, relevance. I don’t know what that point is.

$100M/year obv > $30M/year, but what about $120M v $90M or $250M/$100M?

We will reach that point the day after we complete the BSFS Lazy River. Its all downhill from there.

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« Reply #34111 on: August 17, 2022, 11:57:37 AM »
They will likely push to relax or eliminate the number of assistant coaches allowed per team and likely the 85 total scholly limit. 
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« Reply #34112 on: August 17, 2022, 01:01:49 PM »
They will likely push to relax or eliminate the number of assistant coaches allowed per team and likely the 85 total scholly limit.

This won't happen unless and until there is a structure change to the fbs

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« Reply #34113 on: August 17, 2022, 01:11:21 PM »
At what point do schools/programs start seeing diminishing returns when it comes to TV money/facility upgrades, etc?

What do you mean?

You can only upgrade facilities so much, you can only pay coaches so much, etc. before the ROI becomes diminished in wins, support, relevance. I don’t know what that point is.

$100M/year obv > $30M/year, but what about $120M v $90M or $250M/$100M?

You can make the argument that we reached and exceeded that long ago. There is no functional need for waterfalls and barbershops in what used to be called locker rooms. Little old Kansas State just built an entire indoor football practice facility simply because their current one is too far away, it will be a whole 400 yards closer.

As long as sports are the best rated live TV events, they'll be networks paying exorbitant amounts of money for the programming. The dollar amounts aren't getting smaller in any of our lifetimes.

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« Reply #34114 on: August 17, 2022, 01:14:11 PM »
Is Gene maybe underdressed here?

https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/1559905123723317251

Two fascinating thoughts on that picture.

Really Gene? Hardcore business casual?

Tim Weiser walking many many steps behind, as he should be. 

I can't imagine what's going through Tim "we can't just write checks" Weiser's mind as he walks into the $80 million dollar VFFC.


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« Reply #34115 on: August 17, 2022, 01:18:56 PM »
There is a functional need for K-State Athletics to completely extricate itself from Ahearn Fieldhouse.   For those that don't know, K-State Athletics does not fully control Ahearn Fieldhouse, so "we should just renovate Ahearn" isn't as easy as building new facilities funded by K-State athletics in the athletic complex. 

By leaving Ahearn, 2 sports need new facilities.   Which is why Gene has been talking about the conversion of the old football indoor to an indoor track facility more and more lately.


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« Reply #34116 on: August 17, 2022, 02:40:46 PM »
Ahearn will be torn down within 10 years

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« Reply #34117 on: August 17, 2022, 03:03:43 PM »
You think weiser pulled gene aside for a couple minutes today and showed gene his dax file?

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« Reply #34118 on: August 17, 2022, 03:18:23 PM »
You think weiser pulled gene aside for a couple minutes today and showed gene his dax file?

I forgot the details. What's the story about dax getting excommunicated from KSU Athletics?

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« Reply #34119 on: August 17, 2022, 03:18:52 PM »
Running out of hot dogs

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« Reply #34120 on: August 17, 2022, 03:44:41 PM »
Ahearn will be torn down within 10 years
it is sad that a historical and interesting building cannot be repurposed but that is the world we live in

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« Reply #34121 on: August 17, 2022, 03:53:00 PM »
Running out of hot dogs

Nope

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« Reply #34122 on: August 17, 2022, 04:17:51 PM »
Ahearn will be torn down within 10 years
it is sad that a historical and interesting building cannot be repurposed but that is the world we live in

Mike Ahearn Eastside facade?
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« Reply #34123 on: August 17, 2022, 04:53:30 PM »
You think weiser pulled gene aside for a couple minutes today and showed gene his dax file?

I forgot the details. What's the story about dax getting excommunicated from KSU Athletics?

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« Reply #34124 on: August 17, 2022, 06:01:22 PM »
Running out of hot dogs

Nope

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You know what ... I've racked my brain to see if I've done anything wrong.  Again, the only time I was negative really was when I was ticked off about a couple of the promotional events they had like Hot Dog Gate and Popcorn Gate ... when the athletic department completely screwed it up, and it was 1981 KSU athletics all over again ... no excuse for that from a $40 Million dollar plus enterprise, and not when I send relatives to one of those events because they were having a tough time and needed a night out for themselves and their kids and it was a complete disappointment for them, basically money just flushed right down the Toilet and Weiser basically doesn't give a $hit.

Again, other then that, I can't think of anything.   That's why when I tell my family or close friends about this, they just laugh at the absudity.