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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18125 on: February 28, 2012, 12:05:23 AM »
Here's the other "offshoot" of Pan's post that I think would be really cool.


After they realize that they can make God-like money on the 16-team playoff to a D1 championship, don't you think someone would step up and offer to host a 16-team playoff of the next 16?  The NIT version of the D1 playoff, if you will...

The schools that are involved, and the gamblers would love it...probably not too many more will tune in.  However, I have to think that any given "playoff" game with real consequences for NIT D1 teams would earn as much of a viewership as current low-end crap bowls, don't you think?

Could be amazing.

Here's the other thing that I was thinking about, Pete...

Take away the 6-6 teams this year, and there were 56 teams in bowl games.

Subtract the 16 teams from that pool that would have gone into a playoff, and you get 40 teams.  40 divided by two is twenty, therefore there would be 20 non-playoff bowl games.

There are fifteen games in a sixteen team playoff.

No matter how you slice it, this year, there would have been 35 post season games and 56 participants.  TV's happy.  Teams and coaches are happy.  Everyone gets what they want, and they all get filthy rich.

Also, another idea I had that was similar to yours...

If you started the playoffs immediately after championship week, you could have three straight weeks of playoff games.  Round 1, 2, and the "Final Four" would take place before Christmas. After that, you'd get two weeks before the neutral site championship game, which would be played around January 7th-ish, like it is now.  In those two weeks between the semis and the championship game, while you wait for the big game, you can kill time and fill TV (especially New Years day) with 20 quality exhibition matchups during what was traditionally bowl week.  The games would be more meaningless than ever, but as a fan, there's nothing worse than the two weeks leading up to the Super Bowl.  At least everyone would be able to satisfy their football jones with bowl games while they wait for the National Title game.

I mean, seriously, this needs to happen.  Ungodly money would rain down on everyone.  We'd get the best of both worlds.  Everyone would still get to Pak somewhere warm during New Years.

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Pan, the only thing that would make it sweet for the playoff teams is guarantee pay based on what seed they are at.  :ksu:  :kstategrad:

Why would you guarantee pay based on pay rather than the number of games they play in?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18126 on: February 28, 2012, 12:07:36 AM »
Why would you guarantee pay based on pay rather than the number of games they play in?

I agree. Seems like that would lead to seeding bias, etc. Make for great bbs'n I suppose.

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« Reply #18127 on: February 28, 2012, 12:09:35 AM »
In a terribly unrelated noted

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18128 on: February 28, 2012, 09:29:24 AM »
Why would you guarantee pay based on pay rather than the number of games they play in?

I agree. Seems like that would lead to seeding bias, etc. Make for great bbs'n I suppose.

The Big 10/PAC 12 want the the lower seed team to play at the higher seed team home stadium.  The lower seed team would have a substantial investment  to play the away game, seems like as in Bowl games there is a payout for both teams.  :dunno:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18129 on: February 28, 2012, 10:51:27 AM »
Why would you guarantee pay based on pay rather than the number of games they play in?

I agree. Seems like that would lead to seeding bias, etc. Make for great bbs'n I suppose.

The Big 10/PAC 12 want the the lower seed team to play at the higher seed team home stadium.  The lower seed team would have a substantial investment to play the away game, seems like as in Bowl games there is a payout for both teams.  :dunno:

There could be a cumulative payout to all participating conferences (who will distribute money as they see fit) from TV money.  You could give the host school a stipend to cover costs, but that money could go back to the larger distribution pool.  Or you can have both teams split the gate.

I mean, you can get creative.  If the home team keeps gate, well, that's the worst case scenario.


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« Reply #18131 on: February 28, 2012, 11:49:19 AM »
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/324567-ebersol-among-candidates-for-big-12-commissioner?xid=si_ncaaf

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Uh, Ebersol would be a great thing for the Big 12 conference, so great in fact that there is no way he takes the job if offered.  Better read up on him, he's spent the better part of the last 25 years as one of the most successful and powerful men in sports.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18132 on: February 28, 2012, 11:51:36 AM »
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/324567-ebersol-among-candidates-for-big-12-commissioner?xid=si_ncaaf

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Uh, Ebersol would be a great thing for the Big 12 conference, so great in fact that there is no way he takes the job if offered.  Better read up on him, he's spent the better part of the last 25 years as one of the most successful and powerful men in sports.

what was he doing the previous 73 years of his life?  seriously though, would guarantee a Big 12 network right?  He's only been involved in TV his entire life :dunno:
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« Reply #18133 on: February 28, 2012, 11:58:08 AM »
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/324567-ebersol-among-candidates-for-big-12-commissioner?xid=si_ncaaf

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Uh, Ebersol would be a great thing for the Big 12 conference, so great in fact that there is no way he takes the job if offered.  Better read up on him, he's spent the better part of the last 25 years as one of the most successful and powerful men in sports.

what was he doing the previous 73 years of his life?

You could make an argument fairly easily that he is the most accomplished person in the history of sports television.  His age is compleyely irrelevant, we need someone to set up the Big 12 television deal and he is easily the biggest swinging dick we could have for that.  No one alive knows sports television like Dick Ebersol.  That being said, he isn't moving from his houses on both coasts to move to Dallas and to work in college sports, its way beneath him.

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« Reply #18134 on: February 28, 2012, 12:04:17 PM »


Doesn't wear under shirts, homes in Malibu, Aspen, Manhattan, and Boston.

Move to Irving, TX?  Sheeeeiiiiiittttttt

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18135 on: February 28, 2012, 12:05:30 PM »
Man, if that is what he looks like on TV, just think what he looks like on Sat morning after a Friday night...

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« Reply #18136 on: February 28, 2012, 12:10:52 PM »
Man, if that is what he looks like on TV, just think what he looks like on Sat morning after a Friday night...

I bet he still gets after it.  Also just looked he's 8 years younger than Mike Slive and 1 year older than Jim Delaney, the rest of the commissioners don't matter.

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« Reply #18137 on: February 28, 2012, 12:11:16 PM »
Agree with MIR.   I don't if he would make a good commish, but in terms of sports tv, it would be like a young screenwriter looking up from their computer at 1 am and in the threshold of their doorway stood Martin Scorasee wanting a reading.


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #18138 on: February 28, 2012, 12:15:57 PM »
Agree with MIR.   I don't if he would make a good commish, but in terms of sports tv, it would be like a young screenwriter looking up from their computer at 1 am and in the threshold of their doorway stood Martin Scorasee wanting a reading.

The tv thing is all that matters, the commissioner can't do anything else anyway without seeking approval from the BOG.

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« Reply #18139 on: February 28, 2012, 12:19:20 PM »
Opps, completely bombed on Scorsese.

Yeah, a TV guys is what we need.

So um . . . Dick Ebersol, NBC, Notre Dame, NBC Sports Network, Notre Dame, Dick Ebersol . . . stop me here.

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« Reply #18140 on: February 28, 2012, 01:59:12 PM »
Man, if that is what he looks like on TV, just think what he looks like on Sat morning after a Friday night...

He probably looks a lot like Gary Busey.

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« Reply #18141 on: February 28, 2012, 02:09:44 PM »
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/324567-ebersol-among-candidates-for-big-12-commissioner?xid=si_ncaaf

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Uh, Ebersol would be a great thing for the Big 12 conference, so great in fact that there is no way he takes the job if offered.  Better read up on him, he's spent the better part of the last 25 years as one of the most successful and powerful men in sports.

The only thing I can think of IF he's interested in the position is that he's being brought on for a period of a few years to set up our new TV deal and gently guide Notre Dame into the fold before leaving to go back to ruling the universe.

Ebersol means Notre Dame.  That's the only reason I can believe someone of his stature would do something like this.

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« Reply #18142 on: February 28, 2012, 02:24:19 PM »
Texas, pull the trigger.

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« Reply #18143 on: February 28, 2012, 03:07:40 PM »
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/324567-ebersol-among-candidates-for-big-12-commissioner?xid=si_ncaaf

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Uh, Ebersol would be a great thing for the Big 12 conference, so great in fact that there is no way he takes the job if offered.  Better read up on him, he's spent the better part of the last 25 years as one of the most successful and powerful men in sports.

The only thing I can think of IF he's interested in the position is that he's being brought on for a period of a few years to set up our new TV deal and gently guide Notre Dame into the fold before leaving to go back to ruling the universe.

Ebersol means Notre Dame.  That's the only reason I can believe someone of his stature would do something like this.

Damm, I'm excited... all I can think of is   :kstategrad:
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« Reply #18144 on: February 28, 2012, 04:22:06 PM »
$12.4m for both Mizzou and TAMU.  :dubious:

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« Reply #18145 on: February 28, 2012, 04:23:43 PM »
$12.4m for both Mizzou and TAMU.  :dubious:


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« Reply #18147 on: February 28, 2012, 04:29:17 PM »
$3 million of free money for each school left in the conference, I'll take it.

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« Reply #18148 on: February 28, 2012, 04:37:52 PM »
jesus christ we spend a shitload on officiating.

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« Reply #18149 on: February 28, 2012, 04:47:02 PM »
jesus christ we spend a shitload on officiating.

Men's basketball officials are paid about $1000 each official every game plus travel expenses which I'll estimate at $500.  Quick math tells me that it cost $450,000 for the three on court officials for just conference games for men's basketball.