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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #75 on: February 13, 2015, 01:34:11 PM »
I mean, I did miss Beams.

He's come back with a vengeance though.
It's been awhile. Lots of built up frustration. He'll calm down i'm sure.

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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #76 on: February 13, 2015, 01:35:16 PM »
well, the front end of the cruise ship (sten? port? starboard? the other one?) is still in dry dock getting built and junk. hard to cruise without a front bud.


So once this cruise ship is complete, we can expect K-State to start signing top 15 recruiting classes and playing for national titles on the reg, right?

I expect that with the SS EMAW still in dry dock so obviously I expect it when the old girl tastes the briny sea for the first time.

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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #77 on: February 13, 2015, 01:35:53 PM »
beems is just trolling here guys

Of course he is, at least partially. Its an integral part of his BBSing persona.

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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #78 on: February 13, 2015, 01:40:04 PM »
hey beems, go beavs

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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2015, 01:51:19 PM »
well, the front end of the cruise ship (sten? port? starboard? the other one?) is still in dry dock getting built and junk. hard to cruise without a front bud.
the new Vanier is the bow of the SS EMAW

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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2015, 02:18:42 PM »
KU has more athletic programs than K-State and spends more on its recruiting budget.  They're also building luxury apartments for the basketball team along with the DeBruce Center, which will house Naismith's original rules of basketball.  New facilities are being built all over campus and the football stadium will be addressed in the coming years.

KU had to finance that piddly apartment complex with debt.

It's one thing to use debt to finance a revenue generating facility like the WSC, which services it's debt multiple times over. It's completely another to finance a non-revenue facility like a training facility or rape den, which ku has to do. That's pathetic.

Anyone with a modicum of sense about finance would understand that.
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« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2015, 02:24:25 PM »
The profit argument is so dumb, and just goes to show how delusional your average 'tater really is.  Let's say Person A makes $1 million/yr, while person B makes $40,000/yr.  Person A spends $990,000 on a new Ferrari and a new yacht, while Person B lives like a monk and puts half of his income into an IRA.  Well, Person B would have a higher profit ($20,000) than Person A ($10,000), but that wouldn't mean that Person B is better off financially.  It just means that Person B doesn't spend as much (or make as much).  It's the same with KU and K-State.  KU makes a crap ton more money than K-State, and spends a crap ton more money than K-State.  Every single one of you would rather make $98 million/yr instead of $73 million/yr.  Quit being so damn disingenuous.  Sheesh.

That's an awful rebuttal in many ways. Here are a few.

1. If we had the same revenue as KU's AD, we'd profit at least twice what your fiscally incompetent AD does. We do more with less and that's not a blemish, it's impressive.

2. Your hypothetical is so hyperbolic that it takes away from the already-weak point you were attempting to make. In your scenario you described two individuals - one earning 25x more than the other. In reality, KU generates approx. 30% more revenue than KSU. If we were the school with the decrepid facilities, I would admit that your stance holds some water...but that's not the case here.

3. Finally, I've noticed that you always love making it about the debt. The fact is that debt, especially for a highly credit-worthy public institution, is incredibly cheap right now. While our donations and revenues are at all-time high levels, we're investing those funds via instruments that generate returns significantly higher than the school/AD's cost of capital. For instance, a large-cap index fund would have generated approximately 18% over each of the past two years while our cost of funds is likely close to 2%. You're probably right though...we shouldn't be preserving liquidity when we could blow all our cash just for the sake of making our balance sheet look "better" to financial simpletons like yourself and your squawk cohorts. Please read a rough ridin' book. I like the increased activity the board sometimes has while you're poking and prodding with your trolling (read: blatant ignorance), but my goodness you're an idiot. I don't keep up with the personalities/stories of posters but if I recall correctly you're having a tough time finding your way in life. T's and P's...but I'm not the least bit surprised.

Oh, and screw you, you welcher!
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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2015, 02:24:56 PM »
rape den-lol

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« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2015, 02:26:53 PM »
KU has more athletic programs than K-State and spends more on its recruiting budget.  They're also building luxury apartments for the basketball team along with the DeBruce Center, which will house Naismith's original rules of basketball.  New facilities are being built all over campus and the football stadium will be addressed in the coming years.

KU had to finance that piddly apartment complex with debt.

It's one thing to use debt to finance a revenue generating facility like the WSC, which services it's debt multiple times over. It's completely another to finance a non-revenue facility like a training facility or rape den, which ku has to do. That's pathetic.

Anyone with a modicum of sense about finance would understand that.

Great point. Like my point about the cost of funds vs. investment returns, if we're realizing signifant profit margins on WSC and other investments why is cheap debt a bad thing?
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« Reply #84 on: February 13, 2015, 02:28:00 PM »
The profit argument is so dumb, and just goes to show how delusional your average 'tater really is.  Let's say Person A makes $1 million/yr, while person B makes $40,000/yr.  Person A spends $990,000 on a new Ferrari and a new yacht, while Person B lives like a monk and puts half of his income into an IRA.  Well, Person B would have a higher profit ($20,000) than Person A ($10,000), but that wouldn't mean that Person B is better off financially.  It just means that Person B doesn't spend as much (or make as much).  It's the same with KU and K-State.  KU makes a crap ton more money than K-State, and spends a crap ton more money than K-State.  Every single one of you would rather make $98 million/yr instead of $73 million/yr.  Quit being so damn disingenuous.  Sheesh.

That's an awful rebuttal in many ways. Here are a few.

1. If we had the same revenue as KU's AD, we'd profit at least twice what your fiscally incompetent AD does. We do more with less and that's not a blemish, it's impressive.

2. Your hypothetical is so hyperbolic that it takes away from the already-weak point you were attempting to make. In your scenario you described two individuals - one earning 25x more than the other. In reality, KU generates approx. 30% more revenue than KSU. If we were the school with the decrepid facilities, I would admit that your stance holds some water...but that's not the case here.

3. Finally, I've noticed that you always love making it about the debt. The fact is that debt, especially for a highly credit-worthy public institution, is incredibly cheap right now. While our donations and revenues are at all-time high levels, we're investing those funds via instruments that generate returns significantly higher than the school/AD's cost of capital. For instance, a large-cap index fund would have generated approximately 18% over each of the past two years while our cost of funds is likely close to 2%. You're probably right though...we shouldn't be preserving liquidity when we could blow all our cash just for the sake of making our balance sheet look "better" to financial simpletons like yourself and your squawk cohorts. Please read a rough ridin' book. I like the increased activity the board sometimes has while you're poking and prodding with your trolling (read: blatant ignorance), but my goodness you're an idiot. I don't keep up with the personalities/stories of posters but if I recall correctly you're having a tough time finding your way in life. T's and P's...but I'm not the least bit surprised.

Oh, and screw you, you welcher!


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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #85 on: February 13, 2015, 02:32:21 PM »
Who could have predicted that a bunch of delusional, butthurt 'taters would try to spin $73 million as being more impressive than $98 million?  Never change, 'taters.


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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #86 on: February 13, 2015, 02:33:08 PM »
If ku had any liquidity they would be building something. They're the Countrywide Financial of college athletics.
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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #87 on: February 13, 2015, 02:33:42 PM »
Now they're trying to explain why $80 million in long-term debt is actually better than $47 million.  Awesome.

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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #88 on: February 13, 2015, 02:35:48 PM »
a good old fashioned debt off  :facepalm:

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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #89 on: February 13, 2015, 02:37:28 PM »
Who could have predicted that a bunch of delusional, butthurt 'taters would try to spin $73 million as being more impressive than $98 million?  Never change, 'taters.


 :cheers:

Solid come-back, dood! I didn't expect you to be able to comprehend all that or the underlying principles, but I expected you to at least formulate some sort of response.
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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #90 on: February 13, 2015, 02:38:37 PM »
Now they're trying to explain why $80 million in long-term debt is actually better than $47 million.  Awesome.

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well at the rates of our profits we will be able to pay our debt off before you will. its all moot anyways, you are never gonna generate money with that crap heap of a product you put out there on saturdays

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« Reply #91 on: February 13, 2015, 02:40:00 PM »
Who could have predicted that a bunch of delusional, butthurt 'taters would try to spin $73 million as being more impressive than $98 million?  Never change, 'taters.


 :cheers:

Solid come-back, dood! I didn't expect you to be able to comprehend all that or the underlying prinicpals, but I expected you to at least formulate some sort of response.


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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2015, 02:41:53 PM »



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Re: DAX!!!!
« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2015, 02:47:36 PM »
gE and BMW, what are you gonna do when one of you convinces the other you're right?

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« Reply #94 on: February 13, 2015, 02:50:40 PM »
gE and BMW, what are you gonna do when one of you convinces the other you're right?

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« Reply #95 on: February 13, 2015, 02:51:15 PM »
Who could have predicted that a bunch of delusional, butthurt 'taters would try to spin $73 million as being more impressive than $98 million?  Never change, 'taters.


 :cheers:

Solid come-back, dood! I didn't expect you to be able to comprehend all that or the underlying prinicpals, but I expected you to at least formulate some sort of response.


 :lol:

Man, you got me! Make fun of me for a harmless spelling error while you're not intelligent enough to respond to my previous post.  :lol:
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« Reply #96 on: February 13, 2015, 02:55:48 PM »
Little known fact:  there is a tomb underneath Bramlege where all of the Principals of MHS are buried, so what SPEmaw typed was actually correct.

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« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2015, 02:56:29 PM »
Little known fact:  there is a tomb underneath Bramlege where all of the Principals of MHS are buried, so what SPEmaw typed was actually correct.

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« Reply #98 on: February 13, 2015, 02:58:50 PM »
Little known fact:  there is a tomb underneath Bramlege where all of the Principals of MHS are buried, so what SPEmaw typed was actually correct.



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« Reply #99 on: February 13, 2015, 03:06:56 PM »
Little known fact:  there is a tomb underneath Bramlege where all of the Principals of MHS are buried, so what SPEmaw typed was actually correct.





Edward Rooney, Dean of Students, is alive and well but to my knowledge has never been at MHS.  Perhaps a townie could help me out on this one?