oscar Weber can't get along with his best players

[ChiComCat]

Meh, the only one I think is remotely mean is the Bennettville.  Do we all have to pretend that Nino has been a stud night in and night out?  The bigger issue for me is why the hell does oscar think he can rely on Nino if he has been so inconsistent his whole career.  Seems like dumbassery

[michigancat]

Chum is right about oscar's quotes, along with fsd telling everyone to stop comparing him to Frank. You don't need to have him publicly throw a player under the bus or put a less entertaining product on the court to make the argument that he should be fired. The incredibly shitty results are more than enough.

[AppleJack]

I like to think oscar is just a complete lunatic behind closed doors to his players.

What we hear is just the SFW version.

[Dugout DickStone]

Chum is right about oscar's quotes, along with fsd telling everyone to stop comparing him to Frank. You don't need to have him publicly throw a player under the bus or put a less entertaining product on the court to make the argument that he should be fired. The incredibly shitty results are more than enough.

It's been said that what forces coaches out sooner rather than later is when a coach "loses the team" and I intend to push that narrative along with the excuse narrative.  Simply losing isn't enough to blow this up quickly, there needs to be something more.

[06wildcat]

Chum is right about oscar's quotes, along with fsd telling everyone to stop comparing him to Frank. You don't need to have him publicly throw a player under the bus or put a less entertaining product on the court to make the argument that he should be fired. The incredibly shitty results are more than enough.

It's been said that what forces coaches out sooner rather than later is when a coach "loses the team" and I intend to push that narrative along with the excuse narrative.  Simply losing isn't enough to blow this up quickly, there needs to be something more.

oscar currently leads the narrative category 65-40.

[sys]

dunno if it shits on your point, strengthens it, or is completely irrelevant, but weber did see it coming.

I feel like you have much more to give.

i was talking about art transferring.  rereading my post, i did not make that at all clear.

[Mixed-Nutz]

I thought everybody knew that ART was a flight risk every year.

[sys]

I thought everybody knew that ART was a flight risk every year.

yes everyone did.  that's why it was funny when weber decided to tell the media he had know idea such a thing was possible.

[Mixed-Nutz]

I thought oscar said it surprised him because his conversations earlier in the week with ART sounded like he was coming back. Like oscar thought he already made it through the Art lottery again.

Miami coach is problem concerned about ART going pro this year.

[sonofdaxjones]

Maybe Marcus Foster is being a dickhead, and oscar is doing a poor job of handling Foster (and probably others) being dickheads.

If oscar were smart he would be very Snyderesque in his responses to questions of this nature.   

By going public it pretty much sends a clear signal that their dickheadedness (if that is indeed the case) is bothering the coach.

Oh and since all things roll back to Frank here in Fapping Frankite Heaven, someone did an excellent job on GoPo of quoting Frank since he's been at USCe, regularly and repeatedly throwing  his players under the bus to the media.   

[michigancat]

Great point about Fapping Frankite Heaven

[Mixed-Nutz]

Caring a lot about post game conferences are weird. It should have to be really brutal to care.

[sonofdaxjones]

Great point about Fapping Frankite Heaven

All my points are great cRusty.

[Skipper44]

Caring a lot about post game conferences are weird. It should have to be really brutal to care.

we had a damn good run of hc that were good at postgame, I enjoyed Wooly's down home folksiness and his Chris LeDoux delivery.

[Trim]

Great point about Fapping Frankite Heaven

All my points are great cRusty.

Too bad LSOC already nailed the new board name.

[DOD Take 2]

If oscar doesnt say that to Ninos face before blasting him in the media then he'll lose him. Can't be his best friend in practice then say he sucks in post game conf. Players lose respect for coaches that they see as two-faced

[Mixed-Nutz]

If oscar doesnt say that to Ninos face before blasting him in the media then he'll lose him. Can't be his best friend in practice then say he sucks in post game conf. Players lose respect for coaches that they see as two-faced

Sizzling HAWT take!

[DOD Take 2]

If oscar doesnt say that to Ninos face before blasting him in the media then he'll lose him. Can't be his best friend in practice then say he sucks in post game conf. Players lose respect for coaches that they see as two-faced

Sizzling HAWT take!

People said they don't think he would say it. Just thought it was noteworthy to point out the importance if he did or didn't say it to his face

[MakeItRain]

I don't have your guys' expertise on what constitutes calling out, but Huggins definitely has no problem with criticizing individual players by name.

"He needs to start making some shots, and he did. He made the shots that he ought to make," Huggins said.

"I want Cartier to be a player, though. I don't want Cartier just to make shots. I want Cartier to rebound the ball. Cartier had one defensive rebound coming into this game."

http://cjonline.com/stories/111906/cat_mensbb.shtml

Chum, does this seem the same, less severe, or more severe than Weber's comments about Nino?  In your opinion.

Less, I'd say. But the larger point is that if you're going to the trouble of making these sorts of distinctions, it's because you don't like Weber for other reasons. Why not just stick to those reasons? Winning doesn't even have to enter the picture. Just say you don't like his style (win or lose) and forego all of the nitpicking in this and other threads.

I mean if you don't see the huge difference between a coach telling a senior to play better and a coach telling a senior that he's had a shitty career then I have to question your motives. Also there is nothing wrong with a coach talking to the media about a players faults, they almost certainly aren't revealing anything new. Telling the media a 5th year senior has stunk his entire career is far from saying, we need better effort on defense from player x.

[rob mccolley]

No point in burning bridges.

See my quote in one other threads from Brandon Paul. Meyers Leonard loved the crap outta him though.

But FWIW, read the line about "someone got in his ear."

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2012-12-08/brothers-paul.html

[MakeItRain]

No point in burning bridges.

See my quote in one other threads from Brandon Paul. Meyers Leonard loved the crap outta him though.

But FWIW, read the line about "someone got in his ear."

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2012-12-08/brothers-paul.html

Christ, I had to take a survey and browse 2000 words on the Paul family for that? Would it have been so hard to c & p that like 10 word quote?

[Illiana]

Don't know if you guys have seen this, but this is Weber being Weber with the media in 2012 with Illinois.

[jasn88cubs]

oscar webers pre game speech about being outstanding on the bench

[CNS]

I hate him

[Dugout DickStone]

they absolutely trashed oscar this morning on Border Patrol.  Thanks for reading gE!