Make An Argument For Why oscar Weber Should Be The K-State MBB Coach ITT

[purpyslurpy]

Which, by the way, is why I hate all of the "we knew this would happen" posts. That's just bullshit.

If we're observing data, we should be reminded that one data point does make a trend.  Rather, in this instance, the 2nd place finish represents an anomaly when we look at all the data as a whole.  The trend is apparent.  Win at a consistent level with other players, lose (relatively speaking) at a consistent level with his own.

2003–04 Illinois 26–7 13–3 1st
2004–05 Illinois 37–2 15–1 1st
2005–06 Illinois 26–7 11–5 T–2nd
2006–07 Illinois 23–12 9–7 T–4th
2007–08 Illinois 16–19 5–13 T–9th 
2008–09 Illinois 24–10 11–7 T–2nd
2009–10 Illinois 21–15 10–8 5th
2010–11 Illinois 20–14 9–9 T–4th
2011–12 Illinois 17–15 6–12 9th 

2012–13 Kansas State 27–8 14–4 T–1st
2013–14 Kansas State 20–13 10–8 5th


...but I apologize, my post wasn't really what this thread was for.

What about at SIU where he actually did better at the end of his tenure?

[renocat]

If he can avoid a 1st half like the one against Georgia and he starts  Tre at point guard.  Also sit Foster until his attitude changes.  As you can tell I am torqued off.  Blind spastics could play better - this is q coaching thing.  Is the offense too complicated?  If so, scrape it like Martin did with his crap offense whenhis coaches rrecommended it.  I am not totally on the bandwagon to dump coaches,  but I am checking when it might go through Reno Co.   I hope I will have a reason to flip the bandwagon driver a bird, but I am getting discourage especially with high hopes at the start of the season.

[CNS]

I wish foster would show more attitude.   I would love for him to tell the world he will not play in the NIT or the CBI.  I would love for him to continually jack threes and say something to the effect of fOOD being his "mother rough rider house".

Some of our fans have selective memories.

[mocat]

oscar's situation is a lot like Adnan's. i mean if it's not him, who is it?

[michigancat]

oscar's situation is a lot like Adnan's. i mean if it's not him, who is it?

haha

[michigancat]

I wish foster would show more attitude.   I would love for him to tell the world he will not play in the NIT or the CBI.  I would love for him to continually jack threes and say something to the effect of fOOD being his "mother rough rider house".

Some of our fans have selective memories.

Who can forget "YOU ARE THE MOST SELFISH MOTHER rough rider I'VE EVER COACHED" or something at Oregon

[CNS]

Yes.  Also, I don't remember Jake ever being benched to the tune of a crap loss. 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

He should be coach because he probably over achieved years 1 and 2. Year 3 has been an unabated disaster and negates 1 and 2 unless promptly corrected. If year 4 isn't at least respectable (22 wins) his ass should be canned. But kstate isn't canning a guy who wins 21 games, thus the conundrum.

I personally don't like how he doesn't seem to care when our players make mind numbingly stupid plays that you would scold a 4th grader for, so I'd have canned him yesterday.

[puniraptor]

His suits are cut pretty well

[BWebbs0]

Because I'm a Cat fan and I don't know any better.

That's why!

[Stevesie60]

Has oscar ever drawn up a good play in a close game with only a couple possessions left? Only one I can think of is 2013 @Baylor.

[michigancat]

Has oscar ever drawn up a good play in a close game with only a couple possessions left? Only one I can think of is 2013 @Baylor.

Most coaches are bad at this

[Stevesie60]

Has oscar ever drawn up a good play in a close game with only a couple possessions left? Only one I can think of is 2013 @Baylor.

Most coaches are bad at this

I guess I can see that. Or at least understand why people would perceive that, since you'd have, on average, what a 40% chance of hitting a 2-pt shot and 33% chance of hitting a 3-pt shot on any given possession that you even get a shot off. Not to mention if you draw it up during a timeout then the other team has also had a timeout to draw up what they want to do on defense. But I feel like everytime we draw up, it's significantly worse than our average play. Look at our last three possessions of Georgia, La Salle, and obviously Texas Southern. One ended in Tre Harris driving toward the basket when I have zero recollection of him taking a shot less than 15 feet long prior to that possession.

[michigancat]

Has oscar ever drawn up a good play in a close game with only a couple possessions left? Only one I can think of is 2013 @Baylor.

Most coaches are bad at this

I guess I can see that. Or at least understand why people would perceive that, since you'd have, on average, what a 40% chance of hitting a 2-pt shot and 33% chance of hitting a 3-pt shot on any given possession that you even get a shot off. Not to mention if you draw it up during a timeout then the other team has also had a timeout to draw up what they want to do on defense. But I feel like everytime we draw up, it's significantly worse than our average play. Look at our last three possessions of Georgia, La Salle, and obviously Texas Southern. One ended in Tre Harris driving toward the basket when I have zero recollection of him taking a shot less than 15 feet long prior to that possession.

Yeah I think this is pretty common for most coaches. One thing that makes these possessions more difficult is that they are inevitably shorter and thus more difficult than a regular full possession. I'm a big fan of just giving your best player the ball, maybe setting a screen, and asking them to make a play.

[SdK]

I wish foster would show more attitude.   I would love for him to tell the world he will not play in the NIT or the CBI.  I would love for him to continually jack threes and say something to the effect of fOOD being his "mother rough rider house".

Some of our fans have selective memories.

He needs to say crap like this. That's puts me in the shitty tude camp. If he had this attitude and said that crap. It would look better to me.

I miss Pullen and want more guys like him.

[PowercatPat]

I can't think of one single argument.

[EMAWzified]

He had the lead at half at Stillwater

[Dugout DickStone]

My completely unsupported random prediction looks pretty good!  Yay pure chance!

[michigancat]

Foster's shitty attitude should buy him at least two more years

[CHONGS]

Foster's shitty attitude should buy him at least two more years

Yep, oscar is very smart.  Losses from now on actually strengthen his position. Losing out will make him a hero who took a stand against today's entitled athletes.

[michigancat]

His players don't like playing hard, tough to win with players like that

[Kat Kid]

I don't think this is fun at all.  I hate this feeling.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Be forewarned, if I catch anyone making a case for oscar, I'll reach through the interwebs and strangle your throat to death

 

[yoman]

His players don't like playing hard, tough to win with players like that

This was about the second stupidest talking point in post game second only to Stan's mom's cooking.

[Trim]

I don't think this is fun at all.  I hate this feeling.

You need a better attitude.