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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1025 on: July 14, 2016, 11:37:51 PM »

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1026 on: July 14, 2016, 11:38:11 PM »
rough ridin' ridiculous

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« Reply #1027 on: July 14, 2016, 11:43:24 PM »
Looks like a suicide by cop.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1028 on: July 15, 2016, 12:02:56 AM »
It was murder by cop

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« Reply #1029 on: July 15, 2016, 12:32:44 AM »
Agreed, absolutely disgusting

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« Reply #1030 on: July 15, 2016, 05:41:15 AM »
I simply don't understand why police officers aren't trained too utilize non lethal shots in certain situations. In this case and the dude in Baton Rouge the victims clearly weren't cooperating but they also posed no immediate threat to the safety of the murderous officers.

To watch them keep pumping lead into the body of a dying man because he can't put his hands out is gross.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1031 on: July 15, 2016, 05:55:03 AM »
Breathing people are witnesses and victims. Dead people are perps.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1032 on: July 15, 2016, 06:46:19 AM »
It was murder by cop

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« Reply #1033 on: July 15, 2016, 07:02:19 AM »
Wtf

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1034 on: July 15, 2016, 07:22:33 AM »
i pictured them going up to him afterwards and using the gun barrel to manipulate his hands away from clutching the gunshot wounds and high fiving each other

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« Reply #1035 on: July 15, 2016, 08:42:20 AM »
i pictured them going up to him afterwards and using the gun barrel to manipulate his hands away from clutching the gunshot wounds and high fiving each other

They'll write that into the docudrama, for sure.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1036 on: July 15, 2016, 01:27:16 PM »
What is a cop supposed to do in that situation? 

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« Reply #1037 on: July 15, 2016, 01:31:24 PM »
I think they could have cuffed him after the first shot.

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« Reply #1038 on: July 15, 2016, 01:50:35 PM »
This is what happens when you take away the choke hold /mark fuhrman
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1039 on: July 15, 2016, 04:00:42 PM »
I guess I should first ask, what are they trained to do in that situation?

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« Reply #1040 on: July 15, 2016, 04:07:35 PM »
What is a cop supposed to do in that situation?

Keep shooting until rigor sets in to be completely sure he won't get the imaginary gun they were afraid of.

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« Reply #1041 on: July 15, 2016, 09:56:39 PM »
I guess I should first ask, what are they trained to do in that situation?
They are probably trained to do exactly what they did, and that's a big rough ridin' problem.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1042 on: July 16, 2016, 12:04:01 AM »

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1043 on: July 16, 2016, 12:06:29 AM »
My IRL question is, did she come up with that herself?  If she did, she needs and public office of some sort.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1044 on: July 16, 2016, 12:15:56 AM »
I simply don't understand why police officers aren't trained too utilize non lethal shots in certain situations. In this case and the dude in Baton Rouge the victims clearly weren't cooperating but they also posed no immediate threat to the safety of the murderous officers.

To watch them keep pumping lead into the body of a dying man because he can't put his hands out is gross.

Your posts makes some fundamental mistakes about where firearms are on the use of force continuum and how firearms and ballistics actually work.  It's nice to think of nonlethal shots, but they are nearly impossible to deploy effectively. 

These videos though don't show the cops grasping that use of force continuum either.  Continuing to shoot after a threat is ended shows terrible restraint and a cowardice not compatible with a job we allow to legitimately use violence on the state's behalf.
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1045 on: July 18, 2016, 09:18:56 AM »
http://www.fresnobee.com/news/state/california/article89522412.html

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1046 on: July 18, 2016, 09:22:25 AM »
It was murder.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1047 on: July 20, 2016, 08:22:47 PM »
Only because the cops forgot to kill this one can you almost laugh at the absurdity of it all.

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Kinsey’s wife Joyce told WSVN she’s just glad he is alive and able to tell the story of what happened to him. Kinsey said he was suffering flashbacks to the shooting “every time I close my eyes” and had only wanted to help his patient.

“I was really more worried about him than myself, because as long as I’ve got my hands up, they’re not going to shoot me,” Kinsey said. “This is what I’m thinking, ‘They’re not going to shoot me.’ Wow, was I wrong.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/unarmed-south-florida-man-hands-shot-police-video-article-1.2719331

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1048 on: July 20, 2016, 08:45:43 PM »
good f'n grief

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1049 on: July 20, 2016, 09:10:32 PM »
the cops forgot to kill this one.

rookie mistake.  the guys at the station aren't going to let them live that one down.
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