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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2014, 12:31:55 PM »
Welp, looks like it's time to take the annual budget deficits above $1 trillion a year again.   Resident Prog-Libs say it's all good.

Good to see resident prog-libs pull out the strawmen that Democrats have had 8 years to reverse course on, and for the most part did the exact opposite.   :thumbsup:




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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2014, 12:37:26 PM »
LOL, remember when senator obama was yacking about how our debt was a threat to national security and irresponsible? what a tard he was back then. glad to see he's on the debt train with me, cire and chum1.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2014, 12:40:04 PM »


sitting pretty

Pretty cray that most if not all the countries below us on this chart have nationalized health care and much better social programs than the US, people are happier and health outcomes are better.  Wonder how that is, oh, maybe we can't have nice things due to right wing world domination and blood lust.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2014, 12:54:00 PM »


sitting pretty

Pretty cray that most if not all the countries below us on this chart have nationalized health care and much better social programs than the US, people are happier and health outcomes are better.  Wonder how that is, oh, maybe we can't have nice things due to right wing world domination and blood lust.

I'm not at all sure that that's true. In fact, I believe that the US has markedly better survival rates when it comes to serious diseases than socialized medicine countries.

Also, the vast majority of those socialist paradises have smaller, more homogenous populations and aren't allowing an uncontrolled influx of poverty into their countries.
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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2014, 12:57:03 PM »


sitting pretty

Pretty cray that most if not all the countries below us on this chart have nationalized health care and much better social programs than the US, people are happier and health outcomes are better.  Wonder how that is, oh, maybe we can't have nice things due to right wing world domination and blood lust.

I might move to one of the other countries we have conquered and now own. What is the best US colony now?

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2014, 12:57:55 PM »
Who gives a crap about our debt? Who is going to force us to pay up? I mean really. Money is imaginary anyway.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2014, 12:59:35 PM »
I can't think of a more overhyped phantom crisis than the debt, I'm still waiting for that Greek like collapse Consertvetards promised 3 years ago.

That's a weird thing to look forward to.


Guys, just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it isn't real.

I think you missed the sarcasm in my post. Greece's big problem was the fact they didn't control their own currency, therefore making their debt much more dangerous than a country that controls its own currency. The bond market tells me not to be worried about US Debt, therefore I wont be.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2014, 01:01:54 PM »


sitting pretty

Pretty cray that most if not all the countries below us on this chart have nationalized health care and much better social programs than the US, people are happier and health outcomes are better.  Wonder how that is, oh, maybe we can't have nice things due to right wing world domination and blood lust.

I'm not at all sure that that's true. In fact, I believe that the US has markedly better survival rates when it comes to serious diseases than socialized medicine countries.

Also, the vast majority of those socialist paradises have smaller, more homogenous populations and aren't allowing an uncontrolled influx of poverty into their countries.

Of course they have more homogenous populations, they are more socialized, i think that is in the definition of socialism.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2014, 01:14:31 PM »
Japan's problems are interesting to me tho, even though they have so much debt, they continue to struggle with deflation (the real economic killer unlike inflation). They have basically tried everything and its not working, so now they purposely devaluing their currency to see if that will help.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2014, 01:28:26 PM »
"Countries with socialized medicine are happier and healthier" is an unfounded quip and libtard favorite.


Locking at these charts, it's hard to believe B.O. was able to take us from 50% debt:gdp to 100% in just 2 years. Frightening how reckless his policies were.
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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2014, 01:37:54 PM »
"Countries with socialized medicine are happier and healthier" is an unfounded quip and libtard favorite.


Locking at these charts, it's hard to believe B.O. was able to take us from 50% debt:gdp to 100% in just 2 years. Frightening how reckless his policies were.
Caring about debt is stupid. Good lord. We are the USA.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2014, 01:41:27 PM »
"Countries with socialized medicine are happier and healthier" is an unfounded quip and libtard favorite.


Locking at these charts, it's hard to believe B.O. was able to take us from 50% debt:gdp to 100% in just 2 years. Frightening how reckless his policies were.
Caring about debt is stupid. Good lord. We are the USA.

YES ITS THAT SIMPLE AND EASY.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2014, 02:01:08 PM »
"Countries with socialized medicine are happier and healthier" is an unfounded quip and libtard favorite.


Locking at these charts, it's hard to believe B.O. was able to take us from 50% debt:gdp to 100% in just 2 years. Frightening how reckless his policies were.
Caring about debt is stupid. Good lord. We are the USA.

YES ITS THAT SIMPLE AND EASY.
Inform me on what bad things happen by the country going further in debt.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2014, 02:48:42 PM »
"Countries with socialized medicine are happier and healthier" is an unfounded quip and libtard favorite.


Locking at these charts, it's hard to believe B.O. was able to take us from 50% debt:gdp to 100% in just 2 years. Frightening how reckless his policies were.
Caring about debt is stupid. Good lord. We are the USA.

YES ITS THAT SIMPLE AND EASY.
Inform me on what bad things happen by the country going further in debt.

I was being serious, debt is just used to fear monger stupid people into believing they personally owe that money.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2014, 02:53:32 PM »
"Countries with socialized medicine are happier and healthier" is an unfounded quip and libtard favorite.


Locking at these charts, it's hard to believe B.O. was able to take us from 50% debt:gdp to 100% in just 2 years. Frightening how reckless his policies were.
Caring about debt is stupid. Good lord. We are the USA.

YES ITS THAT SIMPLE AND EASY.
Inform me on what bad things happen by the country going further in debt.

I was being serious, debt is just used to fear monger stupid people into believing they personally owe that money.
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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2014, 03:05:43 PM »
There is good debt and bad debt.  Borrowing to build a house is good.  Borrowing to gamble and to go to the Yoder cathouse is bad.  Investing in things that promote commerce, defense, energy from carbon, and aid to the disadvantaged is what government should do.  Not getting any long lasting benefit from debt is Obama's problem.  His whipped slink dog retreat from the mideast has resulted in a great amount of national treasure wasted.  His desire to expand what are considered to be the disadvantaged to gain power will divert funds from things like improvements to water and sewer systems - I don't want brown chewy water in my drinking glass or my toilet blowing up from a build up of sewer gas. ALSO we need hi ways, rail and pipelines built more than spending money on attacking fat kids.

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2014, 03:08:27 PM »
"Countries with socialized medicine are happier and healthier" is an unfounded quip and libtard favorite.


Locking at these charts, it's hard to believe B.O. was able to take us from 50% debt:gdp to 100% in just 2 years. Frightening how reckless his policies were.
Caring about debt is stupid. Good lord. We are the USA.

YES ITS THAT SIMPLE AND EASY.
Inform me on what bad things happen by the country going further in debt.

I was being serious, debt is just used to fear monger stupid people into believing they personally owe that money.

So, why do democrats allow the government to shut down if they don't get their increased tax revenue (money people personally owe)? Just playing games?

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2014, 03:14:41 PM »
Who gives a crap about our debt? Who is going to force us to pay up? I mean really. Money is imaginary anyway.

Yup
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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2014, 03:39:41 PM »
"Countries with socialized medicine are happier and healthier" is an unfounded quip and libtard favorite.


Locking at these charts, it's hard to believe B.O. was able to take us from 50% debt:gdp to 100% in just 2 years. Frightening how reckless his policies were.
Caring about debt is stupid. Good lord. We are the USA.

YES ITS THAT SIMPLE AND EASY.
Inform me on what bad things happen by the country going further in debt.

Aren't we already devoting more and more of our revenue just to servicing the interest on our browing debt? Oh right, I keep forgetting, none of that matters 'cause we can just keep printing money. Party on, everyone! :Woohoo:
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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2014, 04:07:35 PM »
do you think dave ramsey would be a better president or fed chairman?

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2014, 04:48:51 PM »
did you guys even look at my graphs?

BFD right?

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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2014, 05:07:50 PM »
did you guys even look at my graphs?

BFD right?

The trend is terrible and our peer is Italy, a stale economy with terrible inflation and an ever deteriorating quality of life. No thanks.
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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2014, 05:11:12 PM »
Gosh, what was all that meltie-downy stuff from prog-libs in 2006?  Remember?  Promising war extraction (instead they just spent more) and promising deficit reduction and national debt reduction?   Now, it's just, ya know, numbers.

LOL, well played prog-libs.   Until the new Congress comes in and suddenly it's going to be a huge prog-lib talking point again, well, maybe not as much since Obama will still be in office.   But if a Pub gets elected in 16, the prog-lib cries for a budget and all that stuff will be an amazing cacophony for the ears.

 








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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2014, 05:25:23 PM »
You're one strange old dude Dax
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Re: 18 trillion
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2014, 08:15:52 PM »
2 Middle East occupations, check

Homeland security department, check.

A doubling of the defense department budget, check

A lack of cuts in relation to tax cuts, check

Medicare prescription drug program, check

Look at all this legacy spending!! 

I wonder if we should've raised taxes if we wanted all this stuff.

Right... and the Dems have been fighting valiantly to reduce spending since they took both houses of Congress in 2006, the presidency in 2008, and retained the Senate until 2014 - but, but those damned legacy costs!!! :shakesfist:



And even if broad tax increases would have significantly increased revenue, as opposed to further tanking the economy, the Dems failed to do so when they held overwhelming majorities in Congress. How strange.

But yeah, we've definitely got a revenue problem. You just can't run a government on 3 trillion dollars a year, amiright?
Obviously you can't when Repubs almost make permanent the list I created above.

Also LOL!! at thinking the DEMS had some overwhelming majority.  Im not sure you know about the record number of filibusters since Obamas first tenure. 

Now look at the list to see what the right put into the budget with their very own "overwhelming" majorities.  Those are things they implemented and continue to fight to keep on the books.