Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread

[Stevesie60]

I'd love Leavitt. Don't know how anyone (I realize this hasn't been talked about much on this board) would want Mangino who is 50-48 as a head coach over Leavitt. It seems anyone with even a smidge of NFL experience can recruit better than coaches who have none.

[ELL3]

Interesting, Leavitt spotting in San Antonio, Dimel (out of nowhere) said he is staying at KSU as offensive cord today (in KC Star)
Will Leavitt be announced next week? 

[Pete]

Interesting, Leavitt spotting in San Antonio, Dimel (out of nowhere) said he is staying at KSU as offensive cord today (in KC Star)
Will Leavitt be announced next week? 

Link!

[CHONGS]

God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.

[Pete]

God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.

I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments.  Lay it on me.  Why do you not like Leavitt? 

[CHONGS]

God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.

I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments.  Lay it on me.  Why do you not like Leavitt? 

The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East.  Never won more that 4 conference games in a season.  This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA.  If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him.  Who would?  No one else wants him.

[Stevesie60]

God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.

I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments.  Lay it on me.  Why do you not like Leavitt? 

The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East.  Never won more that 4 conference games in a season.  This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA.  If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him.  Who would?  No one else wants him.

Decent point!

[PowercatPat]

I'd rather have Leavitt than Venables.

[Pete]

God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.

I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments.  Lay it on me.  Why do you not like Leavitt? 

The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East.  Never won more that 4 conference games in a season.  This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA.  If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him.  Who would?  No one else wants him.

But, what about the part where he started that program from nothing?  The whole coaching out of trailers stuff?  Folks, at the time, talked about his work as being similar to Snyder, did they not?  Not saying I agree or disagree, just trying to foster a robust conversation here...

[Dugout DickStone]

I'd rather have Leavitt than Venables.

Wut

[HELLHAMMER]

I'd rather have Leavitt than Venables.

Huh?

[CHONGS]

God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.

I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments.  Lay it on me.  Why do you not like Leavitt? 

The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East.  Never won more that 4 conference games in a season.  This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA.  If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him.  Who would?  No one else wants him.

But, what about the part where he started that program from nothing?  The whole coaching out of trailers stuff?  Folks, at the time, talked about his work as being similar to Snyder, did they not?  Not saying I agree or disagree, just trying to foster a robust conversation here...

big meh from me.  KSU is not a "starting from nothing" program anymore.  We don't need someone to "build us up" to 8-4 seasons. 

We don't have trailers at KSU, we need to think higher than that.

[The Big Train]

God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.

I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments.  Lay it on me.  Why do you not like Leavitt? 

The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East.  Never won more that 4 conference games in a season.  This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA.  If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him.  Who would?  No one else wants him.

But, what about the part where he started that program from nothing?  The whole coaching out of trailers stuff?  Folks, at the time, talked about his work as being similar to Snyder, did they not?  Not saying I agree or disagree, just trying to foster a robust conversation here...

big meh from me.  KSU is not a "starting from nothing" program anymore.  We don't need someone to "build us up" to 8-4 seasons. 

We don't have trailers at KSU, we need to think higher than that.

we actually do have trailers right now, because we are building a rough ridin' castle right now! 

[Pete]

Chings, this is where I disagree.  Unless we get a rock star recruiting juggernaut type guy (I don't think we can), then I think they type of guy who does it the "Snyder way" is a decent bet to repeat the level of success that we are accustomed to. Do we deserve more than that?  Well, I'd rather not say.

[CHONGS]

I mean they were essentially the same team they were from beginning to end. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt 8-4 in a non P5 conference. 

Why not go scoop up the guy who coaches Southern Miss or whatever other shitty team always finishes 4th in the C-USA?

[CNS]

#TeamVenzy

[Pete]

I mean they were essentially the same team they were from beginning to end. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt 8-4 in a non P5 conference. 

Why not go scoop up the guy who coaches Southern Miss or whatever other shitty team always finishes 4th in the C-USA?

Understood.

But, consider this...USF football did not exist prior to Leavitt.  Like, there was no such thing.  In 4 years, he took them from I-AA to D1.  He took them to 2 bowl games.  Before Snyder, K-State in it's entire history had been to 1 bowl game.

[Pete]

They bowl game thing is a pretty weak argument though, given the vast expansion of bowl games. 

[bucket]

I mean they were essentially the same team they were from beginning to end. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt 8-4 in a non P5 conference. 

Why not go scoop up the guy who coaches Southern Miss or whatever other shitty team always finishes 4th in the C-USA?

Understood.

But, consider this...USF football did not exist prior to Leavitt.  Like, there was no such thing.  In 4 years, he took them from I-AA to D1.  He took them to 2 bowl games.  Before Snyder, K-State in it's entire history had been to 1 bowl game.

He's basically Chris Petersen, but better, with a tough love mentality.

[mocat]

I think we are just screwed no matter what

[CHONGS]

I mean they were essentially the same team they were from beginning to end. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt 8-4 in a non P5 conference. 

Why not go scoop up the guy who coaches Southern Miss or whatever other shitty team always finishes 4th in the C-USA?

Understood.

But, consider this...USF football did not exist prior to Leavitt.  Like, there was no such thing.  In 4 years, he took them from I-AA to D1.  He took them to 2 bowl games.  Before Snyder, K-State in it's entire history had been to 1 bowl game.

I know, but I honestly don't care that he had to start from scratch.  This "story" has been told before.  Temple -> Al Golden, UConn -> Randy Edsall, plus many more I don't recall off the top of my head.  Getting to mediocrity is not the miracle we should make it out to be.  It was KSU's stupidity that made it seem so, not reality.

[CHONGS]

I mean they were essentially the same team they were from beginning to end. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt 8-4 in a non P5 conference. 

Why not go scoop up the guy who coaches Southern Miss or whatever other shitty team always finishes 4th in the C-USA?

Understood.

But, consider this...USF football did not exist prior to Leavitt.  Like, there was no such thing.  In 4 years, he took them from I-AA to D1.  He took them to 2 bowl games.  Before Snyder, K-State in it's entire history had been to 1 bowl game.

He's basically Chris Petersen, but better, with a tough love mentality.

Leavitt hasn't won half the crap Petersen has.  Come on get real. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Petersen

its not even close

[Pete]

One thing I do NOT like about Leavitt, is that his last TWO conference records were not good.  Neither were Bill's before 2.0, however. 

Still, a long way away from a home run hire, on it's face.

[CHONGS]

I mean for fucks sake:

Petersen at BSU
Overall     Conference
92–12   57–6
2 x Fiesta Bowls, won the conference 5 times

Leavitt at USF
South Florida:
Overall     Conference   
95–57   25–26   
Tied for third a few years

[wetwillie]

I mean for fucks sake:

Petersen at BSU
Overall     Conference
92–12   57–6
2 x Fiesta Bowls, won the conference 5 times

Leavitt at USF
South Florida:
Overall     Conference   
95–57   25–26   
Tied for third a few years

Would take chris Peterson