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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1000 on: December 16, 2014, 09:55:33 AM »
i don't know. Bo lost the last 6 straight games vs ranked teams. He was 1-9 in his last 10 games vs ranked teams dating back to 2011 (the lone win came vs #20 Michigan in 2012).
since 2010 Bo is 3-12 vs ranked teams. in his tenure at Nebraska he is 7-17 vs ranked teams. that has to be the #1 reason he was fired, right? also it's not like he never lost to bad teams. he was terrible vs ranked teams, and also lost to bad teams enough to get fired.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1001 on: December 16, 2014, 09:57:23 AM »
Prince got fired yes for sucking but if you want to pick out one specific thing, it's because he went 0-9 vs NU/MU/KU. i think if you want to find one specific thing about Bo, it's 1-9 in his last 10 vs ranked teams. unacceptable.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1002 on: December 16, 2014, 09:58:01 AM »
^ IMO to all of that

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1003 on: December 16, 2014, 09:58:34 AM »
i don't know. Bo lost the last 6 straight games vs ranked teams. He was 1-9 in his last 10 games vs ranked teams dating back to 2011 (the lone win came vs #20 Michigan in 2012).
since 2010 Bo is 3-12 vs ranked teams. in his tenure at Nebraska he is 7-17 vs ranked teams. that has to be the #1 reason he was fired, right? also it's not like he never lost to bad teams. he was terrible vs ranked teams, and also lost to bad teams enough to get fired.

most coaches have bad records against ranked teams. I don't think 7-17 is that bad. What's Snyder's record against ranked teams since 2010?

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1004 on: December 16, 2014, 09:59:50 AM »
And in those Bo losses to ranked teams he regularly lost like 200-3. Greatest fans DESERVE BETTER!  :curse:

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1005 on: December 16, 2014, 10:03:39 AM »
I think Bo was trying to balance his hate of Nebraska fans with his love of not getting fired.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1006 on: December 16, 2014, 10:07:26 AM »
i don't know. Bo lost the last 6 straight games vs ranked teams. He was 1-9 in his last 10 games vs ranked teams dating back to 2011 (the lone win came vs #20 Michigan in 2012).
since 2010 Bo is 3-12 vs ranked teams. in his tenure at Nebraska he is 7-17 vs ranked teams. that has to be the #1 reason he was fired, right? also it's not like he never lost to bad teams. he was terrible vs ranked teams, and also lost to bad teams enough to get fired.

most coaches have bad records against ranked teams. I don't think 7-17 is that bad. What's Snyder's record against ranked teams since 2010?

And even if he deserved to get fired, it's incredibly dumb to suggest 9 wins is some kind of ceiling Bo can never surpass when he's never won fewer than 9 games.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1007 on: December 16, 2014, 10:19:08 AM »
since 2011:

Bo: 3-10 vs ranked, 34-5 vs unranked, 37-15 overall
Bill: 7-10 vs ranked, 31-3 vs unranked, 38-13 overall

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1008 on: December 16, 2014, 10:34:19 AM »
Bo since 2011:
@ #7 Wisconsin L 17-48
vs #9 Mich State W 24-3
@ #12 Penn State W 17-14

@ #20 Michigan L 17-45
vs #9 S Carolina L 13-30*
@ #12 Ohio State L 38-63

vs #20 Michigan W 23-9
vs #5 Georgia L 31-45*
vs #16 UCLA L 21-41
vs #14 Mich State L 28-41
@ #10 Mich State L 22-27
@ #20 Wisconsin L 24-59
vs #25 Minnesota L 24-28

3-10, 299-453

Bill since 2011:
vs #15 Baylor W 36-35
vs #11 Oklahoma L 17-58
@ #3 Oklahoma St L 45-52
vs #5 Arkansas L 16-29*

@ #6 Oklahoma W 24-19
@ #17 West Virginia W 55-14
vs #15 Texas Tech W 55-24
vs #23 Texas W 42-24

vs #2 Oregon L 17-35*
@ #21 Oklahoma St L 29-33
vs #15 Baylor L 25-35

@ #25 Texas Tech W 49-26
vs #22 Oklahoma L 31-41
vs #5 Auburn L 14-20

@ #11 Oklahoma W 31-30
@ #6 TCU L 20-41
@ #6 Baylor L 27-38

7-10, 533-554

* bowl game

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1009 on: December 16, 2014, 10:36:02 AM »
Bo since 2011:
@ #7 Wisconsin L 17-48
vs #9 Mich State W 24-3
@ #12 Penn State W 17-14

@ #20 Michigan L 17-45
vs #9 S Carolina L 13-30*
@ #12 Ohio State L 38-63

vs #20 Michigan W 23-9
vs #5 Georgia L 31-45*
vs #16 UCLA L 21-41
vs #14 Mich State L 28-41
@ #10 Mich State L 22-27
@ #20 Wisconsin L 24-59
vs #25 Minnesota L 24-28

3-10, 299-453

Bill since 2011:
vs #15 Baylor W 36-35
vs #11 Oklahoma L 17-58
@ #3 Oklahoma St L 45-52
vs #5 Arkansas L 16-29*

@ #6 Oklahoma W 24-19
@ #17 West Virginia W 55-14
vs #15 Texas Tech W 55-24
vs #23 Texas W 42-24

vs #2 Oregon L 17-35*
@ #21 Oklahoma St L 29-33
vs #15 Baylor L 25-35

@ #25 Texas Tech W 49-26
vs #22 Oklahoma L 31-41
vs #5 Auburn L 14-20

@ #11 Oklahoma W 31-30
@ #6 TCU L 20-41
@ #6 Baylor L 27-38

7-10, 533-554

* bowl game

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1010 on: December 16, 2014, 10:37:54 AM »
you can see that a magical season like Bill's 2012 would have done Bo some good. i mean NU played 2 ranked teams in all of 2013 and only went 9-4.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1011 on: December 16, 2014, 10:38:33 AM »
in Bo's losses the average score was 43-24  :Yuck:

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1012 on: December 16, 2014, 10:40:16 AM »
also i was too lazy to go back and figure out which teams finished ranked/unranked, but i'm sure it's a wash between Bo's and Bill's opponents

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1013 on: December 16, 2014, 10:40:20 AM »
Bo is no Bill. That's for sure.  I would think a lot of coaches could do a similar job to Bo given all of the resources and support Nebraska has while also being in one of the weakest divisions in college football.
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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1014 on: December 16, 2014, 10:54:08 AM »
one last thing:

losses to unranked teams since 2011

Bo
2011 vs Northwestern L 25-28
2012 @ UCLA L 30-36
2012 vs Wisconsin L 31-70*
2013 @ Minnesota L 23-34
2013 vs Iowa L 17-38

Bill
2012 vs Baylor L 24-52
2013 vs ND State L 21-24
2013 @ Texas L 21-31

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1015 on: December 16, 2014, 11:06:31 AM »
It was Bo's time to go. Nobody in that state was behind him anymore and their fans/donors expectations are ridiculously high. That being said, I think they royally mumped up with the replacement hire, and 2-3 years from now I bet Bo's tenure at Nubb will be looked at more favorably than it is now.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1016 on: December 16, 2014, 11:22:30 AM »
one last thing:

losses to unranked teams since 2011

Bo
2011 vs Northwestern L 25-28
2012 @ UCLA L 30-36
2012 vs Wisconsin L 31-70*
2013 @ Minnesota L 23-34
2013 vs Iowa L 17-38

Bill
2012 vs Baylor L 24-52
2013 vs ND State L 21-24
2013 @ Texas L 21-31

Every time that NDSU loss is brought up it just looks worse and worse.  It's gotta be one of the top five losses, if not the worst loss of LHCBS's career.
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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1017 on: December 16, 2014, 11:23:10 AM »
Still want to vomit when I see That baylor score line

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1018 on: December 16, 2014, 11:33:51 AM »
one last thing:

losses to unranked teams since 2011

Bo
2011 vs Northwestern L 25-28
2012 @ UCLA L 30-36
2012 vs Wisconsin L 31-70*
2013 @ Minnesota L 23-34
2013 vs Iowa L 17-38

Bill
2012 vs Baylor L 24-52
2013 vs ND State L 21-24
2013 @ Texas L 21-31

I'd have to go back and look at some of the rankings for NU, but from a F/+ ranking perspective, but Baylor was a loss to the #30 ranked team at home in '12, @Texas was the #34 ranked team per F/+, and if you look at Sagarin ratings that combine both FBS and FCS teams in one bracket, NDSU was the #17 team in the nation last year.

So, really, those were all somewhat respectable losses if you take those rankings seriously.  Even NDSU.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1019 on: December 16, 2014, 11:35:46 AM »
Every time that NDSU loss is brought up it just looks worse and worse.  It's gotta be one of the top five losses, if not the worst loss of LHCBS's career.

Except when you look at actual ratings that combine FBS and FCS competition, NDSU was a Top 25 team last year.

We can get mad about that loss, and we honestly should because we had it won, but it's not like they're South Dakota State or anything.  NDSU probably could have won the Mountain West, or at least competed, in the last few years.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1020 on: December 16, 2014, 11:36:24 AM »
Every time that NDSU loss is brought up it just looks worse and worse.  It's gotta be one of the top five losses, if not the worst loss of LHCBS's career.

Except when you look at actual ratings that combine FBS and FCS competition, NDSU was a Top 25 team last year.

We can get mad about that loss, and we honestly should because we had it won, but it's not like they're South Dakota State or anything.  NDSU probably could have won the Mountain West, or at least competed, in the last few years.

oh jesus christ

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1021 on: December 16, 2014, 11:37:21 AM »
Every time that NDSU loss is brought up it just looks worse and worse.  It's gotta be one of the top five losses, if not the worst loss of LHCBS's career.

Except when you look at actual ratings that combine FBS and FCS competition, NDSU was a Top 25 team last year.

We can get mad about that loss, and we honestly should because we had it won, but it's not like they're South Dakota State or anything.  NDSU probably could have won the Mountain West, or at least competed, in the last few years.

oh jesus christ

You missed the bold part.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1022 on: December 16, 2014, 11:38:29 AM »
Every time that NDSU loss is brought up it just looks worse and worse.  It's gotta be one of the top five losses, if not the worst loss of LHCBS's career.

Except when you look at actual ratings that combine FBS and FCS competition, NDSU was a Top 25 team last year.

We can get mad about that loss, and we honestly should because we had it won, but it's not like they're South Dakota State or anything.  NDSU probably could have won the Mountain West, or at least competed, in the last few years.

oh jesus christ

You missed the bold part.

oh never mind then

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1023 on: December 16, 2014, 12:31:02 PM »
for reference, here's what some other B12/big 10 coaches (who have coached the same team in the same conference since at least 2011) have done in the same span:

Bill: 7-10 vs ranked, 31-3 vs unranked, 38-13 overall
Briles 9-6 vs ranked, 31-5 vs unranked, 40-11 overall
Stoops 9-9 vs ranked, 30-3 vs unranked, 39-12 overall
Gundy 10-10 vs ranked, 26-5 vs unranked, 36-15 overall
Rhoads 3-17 vs ranked, 14-16 vs unranked, 17-33 overall

Bo: 3-10 vs ranked, 34-5 vs unranked, 37-15 overall
Kill: 2-11 vs ranked, 23-14 vs unranked, 25-25 overall
D'Antonio: 8-9 vs ranked, 33-3 vs unranked, 41-12 overall
Ferentz: 1-9 vs ranked, 25-15 vs unranked, 26-24 overall
Fitzgerald: 3-6 vs ranked, 23-18 vs unkranked, 26-24 overall

amazing how shitty the big 10 is. for example in 2012, Northwestern did not play a single ranked team (including their bowl game!)

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1024 on: December 16, 2014, 01:05:14 PM »
for reference, here's what some other B12/big 10 coaches (who have coached the same team in the same conference since at least 2011) have done in the same span:

Bill: 7-10 vs ranked, 31-3 vs unranked, 38-13 overall
Briles 9-6 vs ranked, 31-5 vs unranked, 40-11 overall
Stoops 9-9 vs ranked, 30-3 vs unranked, 39-12 overall
Gundy 10-10 vs ranked, 26-5 vs unranked, 36-15 overall
Rhoads 3-17 vs ranked, 14-16 vs unranked, 17-33 overall

Bo: 3-10 vs ranked, 34-5 vs unranked, 37-15 overall
Kill: 2-11 vs ranked, 23-14 vs unranked, 25-25 overall
D'Antonio: 8-9 vs ranked, 33-3 vs unranked, 41-12 overall
Ferentz: 1-9 vs ranked, 25-15 vs unranked, 26-24 overall
Fitzgerald: 3-6 vs ranked, 23-18 vs unkranked, 26-24 overall

amazing how shitty the big 10 is. for example in 2012, Northwestern did not play a single ranked team (including their bowl game!)

Urban: 8-2 vs ranked, 28-1 vs unranked, 36-3 overall (since 2012)
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