Let's hear more about all the walk ons

[bucket]

Agreed. Mueller has underwhelmed. Doesn't change the fact that he'll be in an NFL training camp next summer.

[Muldoon]

Mueller is a UDFA.  May catch on to a practice squad roster but that's a stretch.

[bucket]

Mueller is a UDFA.  May catch on to a practice squad roster but that's a stretch.

I hate it when that's all you can get out of a walk on! 

[Cire]

Meuller won't play in the nfl.

I do think that his lack of stats is scheme related and the absence of another pass rusher.

[bucket]

Meuller won't play in the nfl.

I do think that his lack of stats is scheme related and the absence of another pass rusher.

If William Powell can make a roster so can Mueller.

[Katpappy]

Yes, never ask why walk-ons apparently regularly beat out guys we offered rides to right out of the gate.

K-State tucks (of which we have many around here) eat up a good story about a Western Kansas kid walking on and beating out a full ride guy.   Thus, they don't ask why this is happening, regularly.

Any school which have walk-ons go to NFL and regularly beat out the targeted scholarship players isn't very good at judging talent. 

[Katpappy]

Yes, never ask why walk-ons apparently regularly beat out guys we offered rides to right out of the gate.

K-State tucks (of which we have many around here) eat up a good story about a Western Kansas kid walking on and beating out a full ride guy.   Thus, they don't ask why this is happening, regularly.

And then these dumbass coaches and writers put them on the all conference team. It's ridiculous

You're so rough ridin' dumb.  None of our walk-ons are good players and that include mueller or any of our dogshit o-lineman.

Ya, because this team needs less players capable of playing on Sunday.

Which players are you referring to?

Oh crap, I just read this post as I watched Jordy Nelson run in another TD for the Packers.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Having a problem with with a player is not the point.   It's the fact that walk-ons end up regularly beating out schollie offer players.  Why is that so hard to understand?

What good did all conference guys do us last night FSD?    The only guy who even remotely looked like an all conference player was a scholarship offer out of high school guy.   The rest pretty much got clown suited.

Agree 100%, our scholarship players should be better than all conference, pro bowlers. It's inexcusable that we have so many walk-ons that develop into all conference players. Those spots are reserved for high school kids who get multiple high major offers. Dumbass coaches. No wonder we never win any games.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Any coach with a modicum of common sense would just recruit enough nfl talent to fill out his 2 deep, then win the natty every season. What are these morons doing?

[OK_Cat]

Jordy is the worst thing that ever happened to kstate. Now the katdaddy's and fsd's of our fanbase think every walk on will start in the nfl. Our culture will never change, because they are happy with 'being in the conversation' even though we have never had a legit chance at winning something of importance

[bucket]

Jordy is the worst thing that ever happened to kstate. Now the katdaddy's and fsd's of our fanbase think every walk on will start in the nfl. Our culture will never change, because they are happy with 'being in the conversation' even though we have never had a legit chance at winning something of importance

Take Jordy out of the equation. Walk ons still contribute in a big way. You float around two scholly's to 20 walk ons and good players emerge. Ala Sexton, Finney, Mueller, and all of those guys from the past.

Poked a hole in your rant. Find something else to bitch about.

[OK_Cat]

Add bucket to the list (ha!) of people who are cool with this being our ceiling as long as we get a warm fuzzy story

[Katpappy]

Jordy is the worst thing that ever happened to kstate. Now the katdaddy's and fsd's of our fanbase think every walk on will start in the nfl. Our culture will never change, because they are happy with 'being in the conversation' even though we have never had a legit chance at winning something of importance

Seems like a lot of our fans think like this; is it 18 straight sell outs and close to 200 mil and counting for BSFS improvements... I blame it on rough ridin' shitty coaches and shitty Kansas kids. 

[OK_Cat]

Katdaddy would rather have sell outs than national championships

[Katpappy]

Katdaddy would rather have sell outs than national championships

The stadium improvements are nice.

[bucket]

OK_Cat you put out a lot of fluff and little substance. Tell us how you really feel. We're here for you.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

We had crap tons of nfl talent on our late 90s and early 00s teams. Winning a championship is hard. Nebraska won a handful of championships with a stout walk on program. Everyone else seems to pay players.

[OK_Cat]

Bucket loves warm fuzzy stories

[bucket]

Bucket loves warm fuzzy stories

You justified your position just like I thought you would. Score one for OK_Cat 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Who was the last team to win a championship with less than a 60 thousand seat stadium? The problem isn't walkons, it's ain't no seats.

[catzacker]

walk-on, scholarship athlete......I don't give a eff.  make a goddamn tackle.   make the goddamn block. make the goddamn throw. make the goddamn run.  make the goddamn catch.  whether it's shelly or Rashaad Washington, or Mueller or Darren Howard, make the rough ridin' play or get the eff out.

[HerrSonntag]

Who was the last team to win a championship with less than a 60 thousand seat stadium? The problem isn't walkons, it's ain't no seats.

1990, both teams claiming a natty (Colorado and Georgia State) had around 50k at the time... so yeah, been a while.

For the record i don't think building a big Iowa Statey crap stadium would fix our woes getting more talented athletes.

[bucket]

Who was the last team to win a championship with less than a 60 thousand seat stadium? The problem isn't walkons, it's ain't no seats.

1990, both teams claiming a natty (Colorado and Georgia State) had around 50k at the time... so yeah, been a while.

For the record i don't think building a big Iowa Statey crap stadium would fix our woes getting more talented athletes.

Wow. What? You think K-State is building an "Iowa Statey crap stadium?" GTFO

[Katpappy]

Who was the last team to win a championship with less than a 60 thousand seat stadium? The problem isn't walkons, it's ain't no seats.

1990, both teams claiming a natty (Colorado and Georgia State) had around 50k at the time... so yeah, been a while.

For the record i don't think building a big Iowa Statey crap stadium would fix our woes getting more talented athletes.

I bet 200 mil will.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Who was the last team to win a championship with less than a 60 thousand seat stadium? The problem isn't walkons, it's ain't no seats.

1990, both teams claiming a natty (Colorado and Georgia State) had around 50k at the time... so yeah, been a while.

For the record i don't think building a big Iowa Statey crap stadium would fix our woes getting more talented athletes.

Georgia State claims a natty? 

I was being facetious. Stadium size and walkons are not relevant at all, and nothing but low hanging bbs fodder.