Job related question...

[Dugout DickStone]

I've heard non-competes don't hold up in court very well.

Depends.  Huge stud lawyers can usually get them enforced.

But they are only worth a crap for high earners.

[HerrSonntag]

So if herrsonwhatever gets hit by a bus tomorrow his company probably folds huh?

Whole place burns down, is how i'd imagine it.

Also, if you aren't actively being compensated by your former employer any longer, non-competes are essentially unenforceable.   If you're still receiving severance, other compensation they can of course yank that and file suit for breach of contract.  Or if you got a big pay out on separation, they can sue for that back.   But like, if you part ways on even terms, they can't continue to hold a non-compete over you.

[ChiComCat]

Between hiring and training to replace me, every job I've been in has paid me out vacation and usually a bit of a premium to stick around a little longer.  I factor it in when setting the start date for the new job and tell the old job that they are cutting into the time it will take me to move/whatever to a new town so I need some more money.  Hasn't burnt any bridges and has generally worked out well.

[420seriouscat69]

Ms. Wacky told her employer today about her decision. Her boss is freaking out. Her boss asked her how much the other company offered her!  "Like, let me go to my boss and see if I can get you a raise" after giving her crappy 1% raises every year. I'm happy for her. She sounds really happy and I think she was really over that place.

[Institutional Control]

I wouldn't sign a non-compete for a sales position.

Sales people in my industry jump around a lot because the big money is in gaining new logos.  If you have a few big clients, you can move to a new company and sell them a new product instead of an upsell or renewal of the product they already have.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Ms. Wacky told her employer today about her decision. Her boss is freaking out. Her boss asked her how much the other company offered her!  "Like, let me go to my boss and see if I can get you a raise" after giving her crappy 1% raises every year. I'm happy for her. She sounds really happy and I think she was really over that place.

the bigger question is why she didnt decide to leave sooner. if my employer gave me a 1% raise every year it better be because i make $500K a year.

[420seriouscat69]

Ms. Wacky told her employer today about her decision. Her boss is freaking out. Her boss asked her how much the other company offered her!  "Like, let me go to my boss and see if I can get you a raise" after giving her crappy 1% raises every year. I'm happy for her. She sounds really happy and I think she was really over that place.

the bigger question is why she didnt decide to leave sooner. if my employer gave me a 1% raise every year it better be because i make $500K a year.

I don't think she knew where to go. This new job is a perfect fit for her. She got a lot of experience through hallmark and liked the benefits, etc. She applied at this place like 2 months ago for another position and they followed up with her last week to see if she'd be interested in a senior marketing position. I thought that was pretty impressive that they kept her file.

[Institutional Control]

Ms. Wacky told her employer today about her decision. Her boss is freaking out. Her boss asked her how much the other company offered her!  "Like, let me go to my boss and see if I can get you a raise" after giving her crappy 1% raises every year. I'm happy for her. She sounds really happy and I think she was really over that place.

the bigger question is why she didnt decide to leave sooner. if my employer gave me a 1% raise every year it better be because i make $500K a year.

I don't think she knew where to go. This new job is a perfect fit for her. She got a lot of experience through hallmark and liked the benefits, etc. She applied at this place like 2 months ago for another position and they followed up with her last week to see if she'd be interested in a senior marketing position. I thought that was pretty impressive that they kept her file.

Probably too lazy to start a new candidate search.   

[420seriouscat69]

 

[8manpick]

Ms. Wacky told her employer today about her decision. Her boss is freaking out. Her boss asked her how much the other company offered her!  "Like, let me go to my boss and see if I can get you a raise" after giving her crappy 1% raises every year. I'm happy for her. She sounds really happy and I think she was really over that place.

the bigger question is why she didnt decide to leave sooner. if my employer gave me a 1% raise every year it better be because i make $500K a year.

I don't think she knew where to go. This new job is a perfect fit for her. She got a lot of experience through hallmark and liked the benefits, etc. She applied at this place like 2 months ago for another position and they followed up with her last week to see if she'd be interested in a senior marketing position. I thought that was pretty impressive that they kept her file.

A lot of companies have a longer hiring cycle than 2 months from application to offer anyway...

[Dugout DickStone]

A 1% raise is really insulting.

[420seriouscat69]

A 1% raise is really insulting.

That's how she's been feeling, but when they're laying off like rapid fire, that doesn't really leave much room for negotiation.

[420seriouscat69]

She makes it sound like the attitude there now is "you should be just happy you still have a job". Listen, I know Hallmark is a great company, but times are changing. They're not the monster that they once use to be.

[Dugout DickStone]

She makes it sound like the attitude there now is "you should be just happy you still have a job". Listen, I know Hallmark is a great company, but times are changing. They're not the monster that they once use to be.

Hallmark has 100 applicants for every job.  People want to be there.  If you are good at your job there, you will get nice raises consistently.

[Institutional Control]

She makes it sound like the attitude there now is "you should be just happy you still have a job". Listen, I know Hallmark is a great company, but times are changing. They're not the monster that they once use to be.

Thanks alot, eCards.

[420seriouscat69]

Do you have a lot of friends there, limestone? I'm just curious. I know you work right next door. Maybe some stock? She wasn't a bad employee, she was there 9 years. Problem was, once they started cutting ppl in her department, they never hired on and just added to her plate with no incentive. I felt bad for her. I know ppl can exaggerate about their jobs/position, but I believe a lot of the stuff she says.

[Dr Rick Daris]

***rick daris true story alert***

i was once employed by super hallmark competitor american greetings for a good seven or eight months.

[420seriouscat69]

Yeah he does. I've been there too. I had to hand off a fatty auction item. 

[Dugout DickStone]

Yeah he does. I've been there too. I had to hand off a fatty auction item. 

So what was this in response to?  are creepy people asking where I work?

I know some folks there, but that doesn't mean I have any interest in them.  I just know they aren't failing.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Yeah he does. I've been there too. I had to hand off a fatty auction item. 

So what was this in response to?  are creepy people asking where I work?

I know some folks there, but that doesn't mean I have any interest in them.  I just know they aren't failing.

no. i made a bad cave joke but wacky insisted on being creepy.

[Institutional Control]

My company is splitting next year and I'll no longer be working for a Fortune Top 20 company.  I guess I need to break the resume out.

[420seriouscat69]

Yeah he does. I've been there too. I had to hand off a fatty auction item. 

So what was this in response to?  are creepy people asking where I work?

I know some folks there, but that doesn't mean I have any interest in them.  I just know they aren't failing.

no. i made a bad cave joke but wacky insisted on being creepy.

I wasn't trying to be creepy. I was just jabbing along. 

[420seriouscat69]

Yeah he does. I've been there too. I had to hand off a fatty auction item. 

So what was this in response to?  are creepy people asking where I work?

I know some folks there, but that doesn't mean I have any interest in them.  I just know they aren't failing.

I don't think they're failing, but they're definitely not growing.

[Dugout DickStone]

I am going to go buy a rough ridin' card just to eff with Wacky

[420seriouscat69]

I am going to go buy a rough ridin' card just to eff with Wacky