WTF? "A message to America!"

[Spracne]

So, a Frenchman's life is worth $4.5M, and they were demanding $132M for 1 American?  Greedy bastards.  They want allah the money.

I know the European governments have denied paying these ransoms, but it seems pretty clear that ransoms are paid and hostages are released.  How are these deals brokered?  Specifically, how are the funds delivered?

As a kid I thought you could just print the $. At 30 you may ask? Same thought process. Just print it. No consequences.

Was this in response to my question?

[Benja]

So, a Frenchman's life is worth $4.5M, and they were demanding $132M for 1 American?  Greedy bastards.  They want allah the money.

I know the European governments have denied paying these ransoms, but it seems pretty clear that ransoms are paid and hostages are released.  How are these deals brokered?  Specifically, how are the funds delivered?

As a kid I thought you could just print the $. At 30 you may ask? Same thought process. Just print it. No consequences.

except the consequence of giving money to assholes

[Mr Bread]

Yes. He was/is definitely a stud.

The murdered guy?

[Benja]

Folley was def a stud. Great looking guy.

[420seriouscat69]

Yes. He was/is definitely a stud.

The murdered guy?

Yeah. NGAF, not giving up any info, and taking the beheading like a champ. He's not a pussy, that's for sure.

[Mr Bread]

He did it exactly the way they made him do it.  I mean unless you think he meant all that stuff about his brother.  I also don't think they wanted him screaming and crying.  They wanted him to clearly say his lines, not blubber them incomprehensibly. 

He not only got captured for the second time in his life, but went out entirely on their terms.  Stud?  I don't know about that.  What would William Wallace say?     

[Mr Bread]

The didn't give up info part got me though.

[420seriouscat69]

Sounds like he had been tortured for awhile and never gave in. I think if anyone of us were in those shoes, we'd be screaming and freaking out. I guess I just view it differently. I get your point tho.

[Mr Bread]

If that video wasn't giving in, I don't know what would have been.  I'm sure as a result of a great deal of torture and abuse, but still their instructions to the letter in that video.  I don't find fault or weakness by any means, but I'm also not going to praise it.  He was their meat puppet at the end.  Most everyone, if not everyone, would be at some point I imagine.

So I guess the point is not studly, but typical.  He ended how you would expect someone to be after all that.  Perfectly conditioned to do whatever they wanted him to do.   

[Trim]

I really shouldn't laugh at this...

No, you really shouldn't, and you should delete your post. JFC. Hey, you know what else would be funny, let's photoshop some of the 9/11 victims taking the Ice Bucket Challenge! That would be hilarious!

Nothing's going to top the Russell Robinson 9/11 photoshop (ms paint?).

[EMAWmeister]

If that video wasn't giving in, I don't know what would have been.  I'm sure as a result of a great deal of torture and abuse, but still their instructions to the letter in that video.  I don't find fault or weakness by any means, but I'm also not going to praise it.  He was their meat puppet at the end.  Most everyone, if not everyone, would be at some point I imagine.

So I guess the point is not studly, but typical.  He ended how you would expect someone to be after all that.  Perfectly conditioned to do whatever they wanted him to do.   

I'd like to think that I'd go out like Marky Mark almost went out in Lone Survivor "eff you, go eff yourselves, go to hell, etc". But I'd be a mess.

[SdK]

I'll stick on the stud train. I'll say that he is a stud, was a stud, and went out in a way that would cause the people back home the least amount of pain. He knew he was going to die. He knew how he was going to die. He knew it was going to be broadcast online. He went out as peacefully as he could. I don't think going out being "hard" or resisting the inevitable gives you anything more than "street cred" on message boards. To say that his actions in the video resemble a broken man is dumb.

[ednksu]

Yeah from all the reports about how he read the script, it doesn't sound like he cracked.  I mean you have to be able to read a script and survive for another day.  I'm sure he accepted his death on a level and steeled himself to that end, which we saw in the video.  From what I've seen (intentionally don't watch those vids now) he sounded like he went out differently than other videos I have seen.

[SdK]

If anything, I think Breads posts itt are the only ones that showing the pussification of America. Posting it in a manner that says, "look the guy pussed out, kneeled down, kissed the rings, was their meat puppet, is a giant pansy, BUT I'm sure we all would" is the exact opposite of a backhanded compliment but reveals his lack of belief in bravery and that he himself is a pussy. Given the manner in how he joined here and stuck around, it makes sense.

Started off as lmao you guys have oscar, to omg I'd love to stick around, let me find my niche.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I suspect the explanation for Foley's composure and not attempting to run is a lot more simple: the thugs likely told him this was a propaganda video, and as long as he did as they instructed, they'd let him live. He took a chance because it wasn't like he was going to be able to escape by resisting anyway.

I'm just glad this administration is on the case. I hear the Department of Justice plans to investigate criminal charges, just as soon as they wrap things up in Ferguson. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html

Seems like we probably should have obliterated ISIS from the air as they began their advance into Iraq - not 6 weeks later. But hey, that was only blindingly obvious to most people. Our Dithering Weakling is more "nuanced."

[Mr Bread]

If anything, I think Breads posts itt are the only ones that showing the pussification of America. Posting it in a manner that says, "look the guy pussed out, kneeled down, kissed the rings, was their meat puppet, is a giant pansy, BUT I'm sure we all would" is the exact opposite of a backhanded compliment but reveals his lack of belief in bravery and that he himself is a pussy. Given the manner in how he joined here and stuck around, it makes sense.

Started off as lmao you guys have oscar, to omg I'd love to stick around, let me find my niche.

At least you didn't have a complete emotional breakdown and threaten to end my throat.  Progress I guess. 

[ednksu]

I suspect the explanation for Foley's composure and not attempting to run is a lot more simple: the thugs likely told him this was a propaganda video, and as long as he did as they instructed, they'd let him live. He took a chance because it wasn't like he was going to be able to escape by resisting anyway.

I'm just glad this administration is on the case. I hear the Department of Justice plans to investigate criminal charges, just as soon as they wrap things up in Ferguson. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html

Seems like we probably should have obliterated ISIS from the air as they began their advance into Iraq - not 6 weeks later. But hey, that was only blindingly obvious to most people. Our Dithering Weakling is more "nuanced."

Hey dumbass, people like you didn't want to do it in Syria.  Its like saying we should stop Ebola once is spreads to Europe. 

And dumbass point number two, did you want Obama with the team making raids into Syria to get Foley out? 

Final dumbass point you've made the thugs repeated beat and tortured him, especially him because of his family, and the Frenchie reporter said he never broke.  There is a difference between random bullshit propaganda videos and them trolling Foley with these false starts in order to make him crumble, which he apparently never did.  If you look into any of these stories where people have escaped or have other witness accounts they try to break people with their own mortality.  It takes a seriously strong person to put their life on harms way for journalism and never flinch away. 

[Katpappy]

The cartels use chainsaws sometimes fanning, and from what I hear, it's much worse than the knife

rough ridin' sickos!where's the video

FYP 

[420seriouscat69]

 

[Katpappy]

Agreed, but that horse has left the barn.

Let's lead it to water, ice water, then dump it on the horse. Amirite?

YOU SICK BASTARD!!! 
By the way, one of my horses is missing. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I suspect the explanation for Foley's composure and not attempting to run is a lot more simple: the thugs likely told him this was a propaganda video, and as long as he did as they instructed, they'd let him live. He took a chance because it wasn't like he was going to be able to escape by resisting anyway.

I'm just glad this administration is on the case. I hear the Department of Justice plans to investigate criminal charges, just as soon as they wrap things up in Ferguson. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html

Seems like we probably should have obliterated ISIS from the air as they began their advance into Iraq - not 6 weeks later. But hey, that was only blindingly obvious to most people. Our Dithering Weakling is more "nuanced."

Hey dumbass, people like you didn't want to do it in Syria.  Its like saying we should stop Ebola once is spreads to Europe. 

And dumbass point number two, did you want Obama with the team making raids into Syria to get Foley out? 

Final dumbass point you've made the thugs repeated beat and tortured him, especially him because of his family, and the Frenchie reporter said he never broke.  There is a difference between random bullshit propaganda videos and them trolling Foley with these false starts in order to make him crumble, which he apparently never did.  If you look into any of these stories where people have escaped or have other witness accounts they try to break people with their own mortality.  It takes a seriously strong person to put their life on harms way for journalism and never flinch away.

You seem very touchy about this. When they were just in Syria they were Assad's problem. Now they're a much bigger problem. And of course bombing them as they advanced into Iraq wouldn't have helped Foley - I was just pointing that Our Dithering Weakling was once again slow on the draw. What good is all this great new drone technology if you're not going to vaporize a pack of terrorists when they're caravaning down the road in broad daylight? Finally, I wasn't attempting to denigrate Foley in the slightest.

[Benja]

that felix rex post earlier was really good

[SdK]

Agreed, but that horse has left the barn.

Let's lead it to water, ice water, then dump it on the horse. Amirite?

YOU SICK BASTARD!!! 
By the way, one of my horses is missing. 

[ednksu]

I suspect the explanation for Foley's composure and not attempting to run is a lot more simple: the thugs likely told him this was a propaganda video, and as long as he did as they instructed, they'd let him live. He took a chance because it wasn't like he was going to be able to escape by resisting anyway.

I'm just glad this administration is on the case. I hear the Department of Justice plans to investigate criminal charges, just as soon as they wrap things up in Ferguson. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-foley-investigation-doj-110221.html

Seems like we probably should have obliterated ISIS from the air as they began their advance into Iraq - not 6 weeks later. But hey, that was only blindingly obvious to most people. Our Dithering Weakling is more "nuanced."

Hey dumbass, people like you didn't want to do it in Syria.  Its like saying we should stop Ebola once is spreads to Europe. 

And dumbass point number two, did you want Obama with the team making raids into Syria to get Foley out? 

Final dumbass point you've made the thugs repeated beat and tortured him, especially him because of his family, and the Frenchie reporter said he never broke.  There is a difference between random bullshit propaganda videos and them trolling Foley with these false starts in order to make him crumble, which he apparently never did.  If you look into any of these stories where people have escaped or have other witness accounts they try to break people with their own mortality.  It takes a seriously strong person to put their life on harms way for journalism and never flinch away.

You seem very touchy about this. When they were just in Syria they were Assad's problem. Now they're a much bigger problem. And of course bombing them as they advanced into Iraq wouldn't have helped Foley - I was just pointing that Our Dithering Weakling was once again slow on the draw. What good is all this great new drone technology if you're not going to vaporize a pack of terrorists when they're caravaning down the road in broad daylight? Finally, I wasn't attempting to denigrate Foley in the slightest.

Now I know you're just making stuff up to bash Obama.  The U.S. has been after them for months.  See Obama authorizing a raid to try and get him.  See the right refusing to do anything about Syria, back when Obama first wanted action, and how we are seeing the evolution of a problem which could have been mitigated much earlier.  How much do you want a president to do?  You people hold Obama to these absurd unrealistic standards which no president has ever been held to. 

[michigancat]

fixing my own mistake