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"Inequality For All"
« on: July 19, 2014, 10:31:02 PM »
Watched the documentary this week on Netflix. Has anyone else on here seen it?


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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2014, 11:31:57 PM »
Watched it tonight. There's a lot of repackaged material there, but it's all very good information. Reich does a great job presenting the facts, but I still think the audience that the documentary needs to leave an impression upon will dismiss it as liberal propaganda.

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2014, 11:41:12 PM »
Watched it tonight. There's a lot of repackaged material there, but it's all very good information. Reich does a great job presenting the facts, but I still think the audience that the documentary needs to leave an impression upon will dismiss it as liberal propaganda.

Yes, based on nothing but the title and content if this thread, I'm going to go ahead and dismiss it as liberal propaganda.

But just out of curiosity, what was the proposed fix for all this inequality? Maybe more socialism?
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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2014, 11:43:45 PM »
KSUW: is inequality not a problem or is it just any proposed remedy that is bad?

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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2014, 11:45:31 PM »
Watched it tonight. There's a lot of repackaged material there, but it's all very good information. Reich does a great job presenting the facts, but I still think the audience that the documentary needs to leave an impression upon will dismiss it as liberal propaganda.

Yes, based on nothing but the title and content if this thread, I'm going to go ahead and dismiss it as liberal propaganda.

But just out of curiosity, what was the proposed fix for all this inequality? Maybe more socialism?

You should watch it.

Reich doesn't offer any solutions. He only presents the facts regarding the issue.

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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2014, 11:58:52 PM »
HUGE (yet short) STUD!


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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 12:07:42 AM »
Will watch and report back, my Orwellian friends.
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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 03:16:52 AM »
Very nice. Really enjoyed it. You can tell he's a man who truly cares. I probably don't agree with many of his views, but his heart is in the right place.


Edit: he's obviously much smarter than me, but as are most of these guys, he's most likely "my way or the highway" in terms of fixing the problem.
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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2014, 07:21:16 AM »
He's the most adorable person I've ever seen

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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2014, 08:33:31 AM »
KSUW: is inequality not a problem or is it just any proposed remedy that is bad?

We're not all equal. Blame mother nature. Unequal gifts, unequal talents. The best we can hope for is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Liberal efforts to put a thumb on the scales in order to balance things out are both immoral and failures. They involve redistribution of weath and opportunity (see, e.g., race-based college admission standards).
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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2014, 08:34:43 AM »
Yes, based on nothing but the title and content if this thread, I'm going to go ahead and dismiss it as liberal propaganda.

But just out of curiosity, what was the proposed fix for all this inequality? Maybe more socialism?

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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2014, 08:37:21 AM »
It's perfect

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2014, 08:48:28 AM »
KSUW: is inequality not a problem or is it just any proposed remedy that is bad?

We're not all equal. Blame mother nature. Unequal gifts, unequal talents. The best we can hope for is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Liberal efforts to put a thumb on the scales in order to balance things out are both immoral and failures. They involve redistribution of weath and opportunity (see, e.g., race-based college admission standards).
call me when we have equal opportunity.in.America.

I'll try to watch later, sound interesting.
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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2014, 08:52:49 AM »
KSUW: is inequality not a problem or is it just any proposed remedy that is bad?

We're not all equal. Blame mother nature. Unequal gifts, unequal talents. The best we can hope for is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Liberal efforts to put a thumb on the scales in order to balance things out are both immoral and failures. They involve redistribution of weath and opportunity (see, e.g., race-based college admission standards).
Equality of opportunity involves socialism.

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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2014, 09:32:33 AM »
KSUW: is inequality not a problem or is it just any proposed remedy that is bad?

We're not all equal. Blame mother nature. Unequal gifts, unequal talents. The best we can hope for is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Liberal efforts to put a thumb on the scales in order to balance things out are both immoral and failures. They involve redistribution of weath and opportunity (see, e.g., race-based college admission standards).
Equality of opportunity involves socialism.

I said "the best we can hope for" - not that we actually have it. Again, family and genetics play a role in opportunity that will never be truly equalized. A free market allows people with ambition and smarts to create better lives for themselves and, more importantly, to put their kids in a better position than they were in. It's the best we can hope for.

Socialism attemps to address this disparity a different way, but of course it doesn't work. Forced redistribution does not level the playing field, it just creates winners and losers by government fiat.
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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2014, 09:57:09 AM »
KSUW: is inequality not a problem or is it just any proposed remedy that is bad?

We're not all equal. Blame mother nature. Unequal gifts, unequal talents. The best we can hope for is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Liberal efforts to put a thumb on the scales in order to balance things out are both immoral and failures. They involve redistribution of weath and opportunity (see, e.g., race-based college admission standards).
Equality of opportunity involves socialism.

I said "the best we can hope for" - not that we actually have it. Again, family and genetics play a role in opportunity that will never be truly equalized. A free market allows people with ambition and smarts to create better lives for themselves and, more importantly, to put their kids in a better position than they were in. It's the best we can hope for.

Socialism attemps to address this disparity a different way, but of course it doesn't work. Forced redistribution does not level the playing field, it just creates winners and losers by government fiat.

lol. as :opcat: as you can get.

also, "the best we can hope for" is total bullshit.

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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2014, 10:03:03 AM »
KSUW: is inequality not a problem or is it just any proposed remedy that is bad?

We're not all equal. Blame mother nature. Unequal gifts, unequal talents. The best we can hope for is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Liberal efforts to put a thumb on the scales in order to balance things out are both immoral and failures. They involve redistribution of weath and opportunity (see, e.g., race-based college admission standards).
Equality of opportunity involves socialism.

I said "the best we can hope for" - not that we actually have it. Again, family and genetics play a role in opportunity that will never be truly equalized. A free market allows people with ambition and smarts to create better lives for themselves and, more importantly, to put their kids in a better position than they were in. It's the best we can hope for.

Socialism attemps to address this disparity a different way, but of course it doesn't work. Forced redistribution does not level the playing field, it just creates winners and losers by government fiat.

lol. as :opcat: as you can get.

also, "the best we can hope for" is total bullshit.

I guess it's racist now to say that some people are naturally smarter than others? Wow... I hate to break it to you, but we can't all be doctors, physisists, pro-athletes, etc. Some people have natural athletic and mental gifts, and they'll be compensated as the market dictates. But you stay classy tossing the racist moniker around.
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2014, 10:10:31 AM »
KSUW: is inequality not a problem or is it just any proposed remedy that is bad?

We're not all equal. Blame mother nature. Unequal gifts, unequal talents. The best we can hope for is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Liberal efforts to put a thumb on the scales in order to balance things out are both immoral and failures. They involve redistribution of weath and opportunity (see, e.g., race-based college admission standards).
Equality of opportunity involves socialism.

I said "the best we can hope for" - not that we actually have it. Again, family and genetics play a role in opportunity that will never be truly equalized. A free market allows people with ambition and smarts to create better lives for themselves and, more importantly, to put their kids in a better position than they were in. It's the best we can hope for.

Socialism attemps to address this disparity a different way, but of course it doesn't work. Forced redistribution does not level the playing field, it just creates winners and losers by government fiat.

lol. as :opcat: as you can get.

also, "the best we can hope for" is total bullshit.

I guess it's racist now to say that some people are naturally smarter than others? Wow... I hate to break it to you, but we can't all be doctors, physisists, pro-athletes, etc. Some people have natural athletic and mental gifts, and they'll be compensated as the market dictates. But you stay classy tossing the racist moniker around.

It's a classic technique used to justify the current system and mindset. Look, capitalism is good. But the system will adjust. And it needs to. Everything changes.

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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2014, 10:12:52 AM »
So its just coincidence that the "genetics" argument you just used to justify stratification in society is the same argument used by racists for over 100 years to justify racial stratification in society?
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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2014, 10:48:43 AM »
So there shouldn't be stratification? McDs fry cook should be able to live in the same place, eat the same food, and drive the same car as a neurosurgeon? Genetics has a lot to do with reaching those levels of employment.
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2014, 10:51:11 AM »
So there shouldn't be stratification? McDs fry cook should be able to live in the same place, eat the same food, and drive the same car as a neurosurgeon? Genetics has a lot to do with reaching those levels of employment.

Attitude and work ethic have even more to do with it. I just can't make myself feel sorry for grown people who work the type of jobs I had as a teenager.

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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2014, 10:52:41 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2014, 10:54:17 AM »
So there shouldn't be stratification? McDs fry cook should be able to live in the same place, eat the same food, and drive the same car as a neurosurgeon? Genetics has a lot to do with reaching those levels of employment.
I agree that not everyone is equal. I believe that it is just not genetics per se, but also the environment that your genetics were conceived in.

Do I know how to rectify this situation? No. But I know that being born a decent looking, slim white male, from a middle middle class family affords be more opportunity without figuring in my above average intellect.

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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2014, 11:38:24 AM »
KSUW: is inequality not a problem or is it just any proposed remedy that is bad?

We're not all equal. Blame mother nature. Unequal gifts, unequal talents. The best we can hope for is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Liberal efforts to put a thumb on the scales in order to balance things out are both immoral and failures. They involve redistribution of weath and opportunity (see, e.g., race-based college admission standards).
Equality of opportunity involves socialism.

I said "the best we can hope for" - not that we actually have it. Again, family and genetics play a role in opportunity that will never be truly equalized. A free market allows people with ambition and smarts to create better lives for themselves and, more importantly, to put their kids in a better position than they were in. It's the best we can hope for.

Socialism attemps to address this disparity a different way, but of course it doesn't work. Forced redistribution does not level the playing field, it just creates winners and losers by government fiat.

lol. as :opcat: as you can get.

also, "the best we can hope for" is total bullshit.

Wow, Benja outed as huge racist.  If someone mentions genetics plays a part in whether or not you are successful in life, and you immediately focus on skin color as good genetics vs bad genetics, that is sincerely racist. Sad.

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Re: "Inequality For All"
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2014, 11:46:52 AM »
No part of this discussion is remotely related to the content of the documentary.