Israel - Hamas peace process

[sonofdaxjones]

Still not in a Kamala Harris defined theater of conflict . . . tho

World at War: The Harris-Bidden Years (now featuring amazing levels of infighting between the two factions)

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/13/us/politics/us-missile-defense-iran-israel.html

[Kat Kid]

https://x.com/AP/status/1845481701205487963

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-13/ty-article/.premium/israeli-defense-officials-govt-pushing-aside-hostage-deal-eyeing-gaza-annexation/00000192-8585-d988-a3ba-dde59a470000

No food for any Palestinians in Northern Gaza.
No ceasefire or hostage deal.
Plans to annex parts of Gaza.
Ground Invasion of Lebanon.
US bringing in more advanced missile defense system in advance of Israel attacking Iran, and while the US said "please don't hit oil or nuclear facilities" I am going to go out on a limb and say Bibi will take that as seriously as Kamala's "you should try harder to let some food in to Gaza" statement.

Bibi really feeling himself in a US election year.

[sonofdaxjones]

Uh-oh, Kamala-Blinks-Pedo Pete and Where's Lloyd Austin Today? . . . he could be in his office, he could be in ICU, nobody knows for sure . . .  have sent a very stern letter to Israel

[Kat Kid]

Israel used a missile to kill a mayor holding a meeting on relief efforts with other politicians and municipal workers in Southern Lebanon.

I know we are already used to them firing on ambulances and hospitals so this might be less of a worry, but I think it should be noted.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-strike-rocks-beirut-suburbs-after-us-says-it-opposes-scope-air-assault-2024-10-16/

[Pete]

Israel used a missile to kill a mayor holding a meeting on relief efforts with other politicians and municipal workers in Southern Lebanon.

I know we are already used to them firing on ambulances and hospitals so this might be less of a worry, but I think it should be noted.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-strike-rocks-beirut-suburbs-after-us-says-it-opposes-scope-air-assault-2024-10-16/

I read the article and they did not provide any info about the motivation for the attack except to cite that mayor refused a request from Israel to evacuate the town.

Personally, I doubt that Israel bombed the city council meeting in retaliation for the denied evacuation request.

[Pete]

I officially agree that hospitals, ambulances and city relief effort meetings should not be bombed.

I also think it is now very stupid to conduct business with Hezbollah and Hamas personnel, and everyone involved should do so knowing the likely result.

[Pete]

Like, if you are at a meeting, and a Hamas guy is there, either ask him to leave, leave, or make peace with your higher power. 

[Kat Kid]

Israel used a missile to kill a mayor holding a meeting on relief efforts with other politicians and municipal workers in Southern Lebanon.

I know we are already used to them firing on ambulances and hospitals so this might be less of a worry, but I think it should be noted.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-strike-rocks-beirut-suburbs-after-us-says-it-opposes-scope-air-assault-2024-10-16/

I read the article and they did not provide any info about the motivation for the attack except to cite that mayor refused a request from Israel to evacuate the town.

Personally, I doubt that Israel bombed the city council meeting in retaliation for the denied evacuation request.

They have decided that the government of this city is a terrorist government.

This is like how they decided there were terrorist hospitals and terrorist water treatment facilities and terrorist wells.

[Cire]

The current IDF is in itself a terror/sponsor of terrorism

[Pete]

Yes, but the Muslims built a mosque on the site of the Temple Mount after the Roman army destroyed it in 70 AD. Even Stephen.

[CNS]

When do all the Roman pagers start blowing up?

[michigancat]

Yes, but the Muslims built a mosque on the site of the Temple Mount after the Roman army destroyed it in 70 AD. Even Stephen.

am I missing sarcasm or humor here or something?

[Pete]

Yes, but the Muslims built a mosque on the site of the Temple Mount after the Roman army destroyed it in 70 AD. Even Stephen.

am I missing sarcasm or humor here or something?

No, it really happened Russ. A GOD DAMN MOSQUE ON TOP OF THE RUINS OF THE TEMPLE!

[Pete]

UNLESS some of you are willing to time box the grievances between these parties.

[Pete]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

[Trim]

It’s way past time for god to get involved in this thing and resolve it.

[passranch]

It’s way past time for god to get involved in this thing and resolve it.

Yeah God...pick a side dammit!!!   

[michigancat]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

[mocat]

Yes, but the Muslims built a mosque on the site of the Temple Mount after the Roman army destroyed it in 70 AD. Even Stephen.

Haha

[sys]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

[Pete]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

Justify is a pretty strong word, but it definitely feels like one of those “I don’t condone yet totally understand” moments.

[Pete]

At a personal level, I’d be willing to do many things that I’d say are illegal and should be illegal if given awful circumstances. I’d probably avenge a child’s harm or murder, for example.  I should be forced to go to jail if I did that, and it wouldn’t stop me from doing it.

[Pete]

I suppose that may well mean I am a vengeful person, which I really do not want to be and will still strive to avoid going forward in general.

[michigancat]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

I think you should seriously consider taking a break from twitter

[nicname]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

I think you should seriously consider taking a break from twitter

I don’t know what sys’s twitter looks like, but mine isn’t at all friendly to Israel or “the Jews,” it’s coming from the left and the right.

That said, taking a break from Twitter, is usually a good idea.