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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #675 on: January 27, 2025, 09:49:32 AM »
About 50 Tren de Aragua off the streets . . . weapons caches, powerful dangerous drugs etc. etc. in their possession.

Operation "Return to Sender" targeting known criminals and people eluding deportation orders.

Now the senders are having a meltdown because they thought they unloaded their criminals on to us, and now they're going to get them back.

Thanks Don Trump.

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #676 on: January 27, 2025, 09:58:50 AM »
I see that none of our alleged Western European "allies" allow for unconditional birthright citizenship.



https://maint.loc.gov/law/help/birthright-citizenship/global.php

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #677 on: January 27, 2025, 10:04:44 AM »
Another weird one, the United States has more Irish than Ireland! Just a fun fact, no need to wonder why.

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« Reply #678 on: January 27, 2025, 10:27:03 AM »
Another weird one, the United States has more Irish than Ireland! Just a fun fact, no need to wonder why.
It did have a significant impact on the river water quality of Chicago (just guessing, I have no data).

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #679 on: January 27, 2025, 11:32:17 AM »
About 50 Tren de Aragua off the streets . . . weapons caches, powerful dangerous drugs etc. etc. in their possession.

Operation "Return to Sender" targeting known criminals and people eluding deportation orders.

Now the senders are having a meltdown because they thought they unloaded their criminals on to us, and now they're going to get them back.

Thanks Don Trump.

Nearly 50 people were detained Sunday morning after federal drug and immigration agents raided a makeshift nightclub in Adams County following a months-long investigation.

v cool of Don arranging this months prior to his innaguration

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #680 on: January 27, 2025, 12:05:38 PM »
You're always talking about stuff that was being talked about but never executed to try and support the now former sock puppet president.

I'm sure the requisite oversight agencies in these instances are feeling much better now that they have an administration in place that supports them and will not kowtow to state and local #blueanon politicians.


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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #681 on: January 27, 2025, 12:48:55 PM »
Birthright isn't a problem, just keep out the people you should be keeping out.
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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #682 on: January 27, 2025, 12:51:04 PM »
Birthright citizenship is part of our great American culture and I personally would like to preserve it.
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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #683 on: January 27, 2025, 12:51:30 PM »
I'm not a fan of birth tourism

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« Reply #684 on: January 27, 2025, 12:58:52 PM »
It doesn’t seem unreasonable to suggest that we keep birthright citizenship for people that are in the country legally. That seems to be the case for all the countries who we would like to compare ourselves to on other progressive social issues and on things like childhood morbidity rates, education levels, math scores, etc..

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Most first-world, progressive nations do not offer unconditional birthright citizenship (also called jus soli) like the United States. Instead, they generally use conditional birthright citizenship or citizenship by descent (jus sanguinis). Here’s a list of notable countries that do not automatically grant citizenship to anyone born on their soil:

Nations Without Automatic Birthright Citizenship:
   1.   Germany
   •   Citizenship is granted if at least one parent has lived in Germany legally for at least 8 years or holds permanent residency.
   2.   Japan
   •   Citizenship is based solely on descent (jus sanguinis). At least one parent must be a Japanese citizen for the child to receive citizenship.
   3.   Denmark
   •   Citizenship is granted only if at least one parent is a Danish citizen.
   4.   Sweden
   •   A child does not automatically gain citizenship unless at least one parent is Swedish.
   5.   Norway
   •   Citizenship is determined by descent. At least one parent must be Norwegian.
   6.   Finland
   •   Citizenship is passed through descent from at least one Finnish parent.
   7.   South Korea
   •   Citizenship is granted only if at least one parent is a South Korean citizen or under certain special conditions.
   8.   Switzerland
   •   Birth on Swiss soil does not automatically confer citizenship unless one parent is Swiss.
   9.   Austria
   •   Citizenship is only granted if at least one parent is an Austrian citizen.
   10.   Netherlands

   •   Citizenship is passed through descent, not birth on Dutch soil.

   11.   Italy

   •   Birthright citizenship is only granted if the child cannot inherit another nationality, or if at least one parent is an Italian citizen.

   12.   France

   •   France has a conditional jus soli system: a child born in France to non-citizen parents may only acquire citizenship at age 18 if they have lived in the country for at least 5 years during their youth.

   13.   Spain

   •   Citizenship is granted by descent. Birth in Spain does not automatically result in citizenship unless the child would otherwise be stateless.

   14.   United Kingdom

   •   Children born in the UK only become citizens automatically if at least one parent is a British citizen or legally settled in the UK.

   15.   New Zealand

   •   Citizenship by birth is granted only if at least one parent is a citizen or permanent resident.

   16.   Australia

   •   Citizenship is granted at birth only if at least one parent is an Australian citizen or permanent resident. Otherwise, a child may apply for citizenship at age 10 if they have lived in Australia their whole life.

Key Takeaways:
   •   Countries that do not grant unconditional birthright citizenship typically prioritize citizenship by descent (jus sanguinis).
   •   Some countries have conditional systems (e.g., France, Australia), where residency or other criteria must be met.

This contrasts with nations like the United States or Canada, which follow unconditional jus soli, automatically granting citizenship to anyone born within their borders, regardless of parental status.


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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #685 on: January 27, 2025, 01:10:13 PM »
I would prefer to continue being better than all those shitholes, personally.

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #686 on: January 27, 2025, 01:12:51 PM »
I guess someone could try explaining what the benefit of refusing to grant citizenship to a group that statistically outperforms children of US citizens in terms of academic performance and income.

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #687 on: January 27, 2025, 01:24:57 PM »
I guess someone could try explaining what the benefit of refusing to grant citizenship to a group that statistically outperforms children of US citizens in terms of academic performance and income.

You answered the question right here. Racist assholes need to feel superior from their every day crap lives so "being brown" is bad and no matter what, being white is better than being brown regardless of status. tldr: it riles up the dummies and scores political points.

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #688 on: January 27, 2025, 01:29:11 PM »
Just do a better job keeping illegals out if you don't want them to berf
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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #689 on: January 27, 2025, 02:48:39 PM »
I guess someone could try explaining what the benefit of refusing to grant citizenship to a group that statistically outperforms children of US citizens in terms of academic performance and income.

You answered the question right here. Racist assholes need to feel superior from their every day crap lives so "being brown" is bad and no matter what, being white is better than being brown regardless of status. tldr: it riles up the dummies and scores political points.

The audience should note that #blueanon academic administrators at various elite institutions have very openly introduced policies that quite clearly make it vastly more difficult for certain people of color to gain entry into (insert elite university here) because those #blueanon admins are jealous that said brown person population typically outperform their more preferred skin pigmentation(s).




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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #690 on: January 27, 2025, 02:52:22 PM »
I guess someone could try explaining what the benefit of refusing to grant citizenship to a group that statistically outperforms children of US citizens in terms of academic performance and income.

You answered the question right here. Racist assholes need to feel superior from their every day crap lives so "being brown" is bad and no matter what, being white is better than being brown regardless of status. tldr: it riles up the dummies and scores political points.

The audience should note that #blueanon academic administrators at various elite institutions have very openly introduced policies that quite clearly make it vastly more difficult for certain people of color to gain entry into (insert elite university here) because those #blueanon admins are jealous that said brown person population typically outperform their more preferred skin pigmentation(s).

Listen, Dax, the USA needs gardeners, roofers  and maids too, just like we used to need cotton pickers.
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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #691 on: January 27, 2025, 02:53:30 PM »
You're always talking about stuff that was being talked about but never executed to try and support the now former sock puppet president.

I'm sure the requisite oversight agencies in these instances are feeling much better now that they have an administration in place that supports them and will not kowtow to state and local #blueanon politicians.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36e41dx425o.amp

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« Reply #692 on: January 27, 2025, 02:55:20 PM »
Tbf, I’ll generally take  “illegal” immigrants from Latin American countries over legal ones from the Middle East, India, Pakistan, etc.

If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #693 on: January 27, 2025, 02:56:08 PM »
I guess someone could try explaining what the benefit of refusing to grant citizenship to a group that statistically outperforms children of US citizens in terms of academic performance and income.

You answered the question right here. Racist assholes need to feel superior from their every day crap lives so "being brown" is bad and no matter what, being white is better than being brown regardless of status. tldr: it riles up the dummies and scores political points.

The audience should note that #blueanon academic administrators at various elite institutions have very openly introduced policies that quite clearly make it vastly more difficult for certain people of color to gain entry into (insert elite university here) because those #blueanon admins are jealous that said brown person population typically outperform their more preferred skin pigmentation(s).

Listen, Dax, the USA needs gardeners, roofers  and maids too, just like we used to need cotton pickers.

Agreed . . . and #blueanon had 4 years to overhaul our immigration policy and the best they could do was conjure up some bullshit legislation full of tack ons that was solely done for election points and was as unserious as you could possibly imagine.

I do also agree that Democrats sure worked hard to keep their cotton pickers back in the day.  Thank you Republicans!

 I don't know why you're highlighting someone else's words and how that applies here, tho.


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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #694 on: January 27, 2025, 02:58:15 PM »
You're always talking about stuff that was being talked about but never executed to try and support the now former sock puppet president.

I'm sure the requisite oversight agencies in these instances are feeling much better now that they have an administration in place that supports them and will not kowtow to state and local #blueanon politicians.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36e41dx425o.amp

It's very easy to have record deportations when you're allowing all time record numbers of people into the country.

It's like NFL records during a 17 game regular season vs a 16 (or fewer) game regular season.


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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #695 on: January 27, 2025, 02:58:27 PM »
I guess someone could try explaining what the benefit of refusing to grant citizenship to a group that statistically outperforms children of US citizens in terms of academic performance and income.

You answered the question right here. Racist assholes need to feel superior from their every day crap lives so "being brown" is bad and no matter what, being white is better than being brown regardless of status. tldr: it riles up the dummies and scores political points.

The audience should note that #blueanon academic administrators at various elite institutions have very openly introduced policies that quite clearly make it vastly more difficult for certain people of color to gain entry into (insert elite university here) because those #blueanon admins are jealous that said brown person population typically outperform their more preferred skin pigmentation(s).

Listen, Dax, the USA needs gardeners, roofers  and maids too, just like we used to need cotton pickers.

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #696 on: January 27, 2025, 03:46:06 PM »
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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Re: So immigration...
« Reply #697 on: January 27, 2025, 04:28:21 PM »
My daughter's friend had ICE raids in her neighborhood and her patients won't let her leave the house with her social security card and birth certificate. (She is Ecuadorian but a US citizen and had a cousin deported last week). It's really gross.

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« Reply #698 on: January 27, 2025, 04:35:35 PM »
My daughter's friend had ICE raids in her neighborhood and her patients won't let her leave the house with her social security card and birth certificate. (She is Ecuadorian but a US citizen and had a cousin deported last week). It's really gross.

I think we can all agree that this is disgusting.
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« Reply #699 on: January 27, 2025, 04:38:44 PM »
My daughter's friend had ICE raids in her neighborhood and her patients won't let her leave the house with her social security card and birth certificate. (She is Ecuadorian but a US citizen and had a cousin deported last week). It's really gross.

I bet she just didn't tell you that she was MS 13. They are only deporting the really bad criminals.