The Veggie Hour: where all gE buds talk about veganism and vegetarianism

[AbeFroman]

http://m.allrecipes.com/recipe/70330/vegan-red-lentil-soup

Only vegan recipe I've ever made. Was good. Too not vegan it, add shrimp!

[HerrSonntag]

As a hypothetical to any 'tarians/veegz out there: If someone was to show you something that irrefutably stated that all meats in some varied amounts amounts were not only not bad for you but good for you.  i.e - not saying someone tells you that an all meat diet is the BEST EVAH but that some amount of each kind of meat (all meats, tossing gator out there too) was not only an acceptable part of the diet but good for you.  With just evidence, would you still want to maintain a vegetarian or vegan diet?

[puniraptor]

I don't think there are any veggers or veegers in here.

[Tobias]

I don't think there are any veggers or veegers in here.

[HerrSonntag]

Good, we can get back to saying nasty things about them   

[WonderMeal]

As a hypothetical to any 'tarians/veegz out there: If someone was to show you something that irrefutably stated that all meats in some varied amounts amounts were not only not bad for you but good for you.  i.e - not saying someone tells you that an all meat diet is the BEST EVAH but that some amount of each kind of meat (all meats, tossing gator out there too) was not only an acceptable part of the diet but good for you.  With just evidence, would you still want to maintain a vegetarian or vegan diet?

I think there are plenty of people who would still want to maintain a vegetarian or vegan diet, for many reasons. To name a few--they might remain vegetarian because of their religion, remain vegan because they have read a lot of Peter Singer (et al) and believe eating animals or animal products is ethically wrong, or they simply don't like the taste of flesh (or the act of eating it).

I think there's plenty of evidence that says some animal products are good for you, and millions of people still make the choice not to partake. Similarly, there is plenty of evidence to show that eating lots of red meat almost every day is not the "BEST EVAH" diet, but millions of people (like AST and his buds) make the choice to do it anyway, for various and valid reasons.

Good, we can get back to saying nasty things about them   

Nope. Maybe on GPC, but not in this thread. This thread is for grown-ups who are curious and enjoy a good discussion.

[michigancat]

I did vegan for a couple months about four years ago. You eat a lot of beans and save quite a bit on groceries. Red beans and rice is the best vegan dish. Black bean burgers are pretty good. Lots of  soups are good vegan. Never really tried making imitation tofu meat because it seemed gross.

[michigancat]

And get this: in Oakland, there is a vegan soul food restaurant. Sounds awful, but a friend (not vegan) says it's really good

[CNS]

I love beans.  My problem is that black beans are super good with a hot valentina sauce and grilled chicken and red beans/rice is best with ham or sausage in it. 

I could totally give up meat in dishes like these but not that and dairy or eggs across the board.  If I targeted just meat, I could do that for periods of time,  but not forever unless doctor ordered with a serious promise behind it.

[AST]

so, uhm, wondermeal tap the brakes a little.  i eat red meat 1, maybe 2 meals a week.  i actually have a very well rounded diet consisting of chicken or turkey sandwich on whole wheat bread for lunch.  dinner is generally chicken, fish or ramen with vegetables. snacks are nutri-grain bars, apples, oranges or sherbert.  i usually grill or smoke on the weekend and i eat red meat that meal and maybe 1 serving of leftovers on sunday or monday.  breakfast is either cereal or fruit.

i love red meat but excess, just like pretty much everything else in life, is bad.

['taterblast]

have you guys seen Fathead? totally worth watching.

[WonderMeal]

...so it turns out AST isn't eating smoked meat 24/7...

Got it, and agree that excess (including excess prosthelytizing about vegan/vegetarianism) is pretty much always bad. Consider the brakes tapped.

Was just using you as an example because omg your food looks delicious and (fairly or unfairly) you're known as "The Meat Guy" on the board*. While you might not eat red meat every night, there are definitely a bunch of people who do.

 


*Just like TTHOTUC is known as "The Hot Pockets Guy," _Fan is known as "The Analytics Guy," and eastcast is known as "The Racist Who Everyone Wishes Would Leave Guy."

[star seed 7]

red beans and rice are really good

[WonderMeal]

I did vegan for a couple months about four years ago. You eat a lot of beans and save quite a bit on groceries.

Mrs. WonderMeal and I decided to eat vegan at home for the past couple of months, and Rusty is right on this one. I'm actually kind of surprised the Dave Ramsey crowd isn't getting everyone to eat vegetarian/vegan, because this stuff is cheap. (Note: we buy real food, not buy imitation chicken nuggets or stuff like that, which is probably more expensive).

We decided to do it so that we would get out of the cooking rut we were in and eat a little bit healthier, and it has definitely worked. Eventually we'll start phasing in dairy products/eggs again, and we'll have twice the number of go-to meals that we cook on a regular basis. Probably won't cook meat at home much anymore, unless it's a special occasion. WonderMeal is ~12-15 pounds lighter, too.   

NOTE: I still eat non-vegan/non-vegetarian when I go out to restaurants, when I eat meals at a friend's house, or when I want to crush some Taco Bell. I haven't "gone vegan," which is why this has been an easy and (I think) positive transition.

[michigancat]

That's great, wonder. taco bell bean burritos are pretty close to vegan.

[nicname]

 

Dorks.

[sys]

I ate a vegetarian diet for about sixth months at one point. It's hard to not chow down on carbs all the time. So in the end it's way worse for you than eating meat.

i gave up meat for lent a couple times a long time ago.  didn't eat more vegetables, ate the same stuff, just without meat.  maybe ate more eggs.

[Cire]

Eggs aren't meat?

[sys]

not to me.