Is K the G.O.A.T? I say yes.

[nicname]

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[SkinnyBenny]

I know they're our sister school and all, but dude.  John Wooden.

[nicname]

I know they're our sister school and all, but dude.  John Wooden.

I can't help but discount Wooden's success a bit for the money being pumped into that program in those days.  Regardless or whether the coach knew what was going on.  something is a muck when you just start winning every game 15 years into your career.

K has won championships in three different decades, he has won with NBA ready rosters, he has won with four year college types, and he has won with a mixture.  Hell even many of his players to leave early have also graduated early.  And K has never had more than a hint on NCAA improprioties. 

[SkinnyBenny]

John Wooden wouldn't let a dude have facial hair because he was so old school.  No way dude cheated.

[gokatgo]

John Wooden wouldn't let a dude have facial hair because he was so old school.  No way dude cheated.

Sam Gilbert paid em...Wooden just lookes the other way

[pissclams]

You have to consider that when Wooden was winning his championships, there were only 16 friggin teams in the tornament and only one team per conference was let in.  What Wooden did was cool and everything but to me, what Coack K has done is more impressive.

[SkinnyBenny]

You have to consider that when Wooden was winning his championships, there were only 16 friggin teams in the tornament and only one team per conference was let in.  What Wooden did was cool and everything but to me, what Coack K has done is more impressive.

THAT is a point I will be willing to consider, but probably not that he cheated to do it.  Of course, the tornament was stacked solid at that time, because everyone who won it won their league (no Northern Iowa-esque Cinderellas ).  And I'm not trying to take anything away from Duke, because what Coach Kroojawooskie has done is certainly amazing, but when talk to me about him being the best when he wins 88 games in a row and wins another title...because that fifth title would put him at 1/2 of what Wooden won.  Plus, Wooden has amazing long earlobes.   

[chum1]

You have to consider that when Wooden was winning his championships, there were only 16 friggin teams in the tornament and only one team per conference was let in.  What Wooden did was cool and everything but to me, what Coack K has done is more impressive.

THAT is a point I will be willing to consider, but probably not that he cheated to do it.

Doesn't it reflect badly on Wooden that he was in charge of such a dirty program?  He's either incredibly stupid and unaware or looking the other way. 

[mcmwcat]

self is the new wooden.  coach K has a ways to go until he can match seff's 6 consecutive big 12 north banners.  2 championships and countelss final fours is a good start.

[yoga-like_abana]

You have to consider that when Wooden was winning his championships, there were only 16 friggin teams in the tornament and only one team per conference was let in.  What Wooden did was cool and everything but to me, what Coack K has done is more impressive.

THAT is a point I will be willing to consider, but probably not that he cheated to do it.  Of course, the tornament was stacked solid at that time, because everyone who won it won their league (no Northern Iowa-esque Cinderellas ). 

Northern Iowa did win their league.   

[SkinnyBenny]

You have to consider that when Wooden was winning his championships, there were only 16 friggin teams in the tornament and only one team per conference was let in.  What Wooden did was cool and everything but to me, what Coack K has done is more impressive.

THAT is a point I will be willing to consider, but probably not that he cheated to do it.  Of course, the tornament was stacked solid at that time, because everyone who won it won their league (no Northern Iowa-esque Cinderellas ). 

Northern Iowa did win their league.   

Some crapty league, no doubt.

[SkinnyBenny]

Doesn't it reflect badly on Wooden that he was in charge of such a dirty program?  He's either incredibly stupid and unaware or looking the other way. 

Link plz.

[kso_FAN]

As Petro points out in this this blog, Coach K has continued to show he's a really, really good recruiter along with being a good coach.  He may not recruit as many guys that leave early, but its not like he's recruiting trash to play at Duke.

Duke had 9 top 50  HS players in last night's game, 4 of them Top 20 players.

2009

12-Ryan Kelly

18-Mason Plumlee

40-Andre Dawkins

 

2008

(16-Elliott Williams: Transferred to Memphis after 2009)

40-Miles Plumlee

 

2007

6-Kyle Singler

26-Nolan Smith

(56-Taylor King: Transferred to Villanova after 2008)

 

2006

(15-Gerald Henderson:  Drafted after his Junior year #12-2009 Charlotte)

18-Lance Thomas

20-Jon Scheyer

38-Brian Zoubek

 

2005

(1-Josh McRoberts: Drafted after his Sophomore year #37-2007 Portland)

18-Greg Paulus

(36-Eric Boateng: Transferred to Arizona St. after 2006)

(55-Martynas Pocius: Left with one year of eligibility to play in Europe)

(88-Jamal Boykin: Transferred to California after first semester of 2007/2008 season)

 

2004

(2-Shaun Livingston: Drafted #4-2004 Los Angeles Clippers… Never played at Duke)

30-DeMarcus Nelson

57-David McClure

 

2003  (79-78 loss to UConn in 2004 Final Four)

(2-Loul Deng:  #7-2004 Chicago)

 

2002

8-Sheldon Williams

(12-Shavlik Randolph: Declared for 2005 draft after Junior year, but was not drafted)

13-J.J. Redick

29-Sean Dockery

(31-Michael Thompson: Trasferred to Northwestern after first semester 2003/2004)

 

2001

29-Daniel Ewing

 

2000 (Duke won the National Championship in 2001)

6-Chris Duhon

 

1999

(3-Jason Williams: Drafted after his Junior year #2-2002 Chicago)

(9-Carlos Boozer: Drafted after his Junior year #35-2002 Cleveland)

16-Casey Sanders

(26-Mike Dunleavy Jr. : Drafted after his Junior year #3-2002 Golden St.)

 

1998 (Won the National Championship in 1999)

(15-Corey Maggette: Drafted after his Freshman year #13-1999 Seattle)

 

1997 (No ranking available)

(Elton Brand: Drafted after his Sophomore year #1-1999 Chicago)

(William Avery: Drafted after his Sophomore year #14-1999 Minnesota)

[michigancat]

As Petro points out in this this blog, Coach K has continued to show he's a really, really good recruiter along with being a good coach.  He may not recruit as many guys that leave early, but its not like he's recruiting trash to play at Duke.

Duke had 9 top 50  HS players in last night's game, 4 of them Top 20 players.

Petro is such a goober.

[kso_FAN]

As Petro points out in this this blog, Coach K has continued to show he's a really, really good recruiter along with being a good coach.  He may not recruit as many guys that leave early, but its not like he's recruiting trash to play at Duke.

Duke had 9 top 50  HS players in last night's game, 4 of them Top 20 players.

Petro is such a goober.

True, but the point is still valid.  Some people seem to act like K quit recruiting good players, but he didn't.

[michigancat]

As Petro points out in this this blog, Coach K has continued to show he's a really, really good recruiter along with being a good coach.  He may not recruit as many guys that leave early, but its not like he's recruiting trash to play at Duke.

Duke had 9 top 50  HS players in last night's game, 4 of them Top 20 players.

Petro is such a goober.

True, but the point is still valid.  Some people seem to act like K quit recruiting good players, but he didn't.

I haven't noticed anyone saying this.  Probably because I haven't watched any talking heads.

[kso_FAN]

As Petro points out in this this blog, Coach K has continued to show he's a really, really good recruiter along with being a good coach.  He may not recruit as many guys that leave early, but its not like he's recruiting trash to play at Duke.

Duke had 9 top 50  HS players in last night's game, 4 of them Top 20 players.

Petro is such a goober.

True, but the point is still valid.  Some people seem to act like K quit recruiting good players, but he didn't.

I haven't noticed anyone saying this.  Probably because I haven't watched any talking heads.

Probably a good thing to do.  Several talked about how K changed his recruiting strategy over the years and doesn't go after one and done types, which in part is probably true.  But he still recruits really good players. 

[felix rex]

Several talked about how K changed his recruiting strategy over the years and doesn't go after one and done types, which in part is probably true.  But he still recruits really good players. 

All of our recruiting discussions seem to circle back to this. I think it's because I hope that this is why we haven't landed any elite NBA one-and-doners since Beasley. And it may really be a good strategy, but it just sounds too much like "only want kids that really want to be here" justifications for me to completely buy it.

[michigancat]

Several talked about how K changed his recruiting strategy over the years and doesn't go after one and done types, which in part is probably true.  But he still recruits really good players. 

All of our recruiting discussions seem to circle back to this. I think it's because I hope that this is why we haven't landed any elite NBA one-and-doners since Beasley. And it may really be a good strategy, but it just sounds too much like "only want kids that really want to be here" justifications for me to completely buy it.

Frank doesn't "recruit" one-and-dones because he can't.

[_33]

If a coach is not getting "one and dones" it's always because they can't.

[pissclams]

petro says "uhhhhh" way too much