Hillary LOL (f/k/a Hillary Clinton Indictment Watch f/k/a Hillary 2016?)

[MakeItRain]

Quick take is that if she couldn't be considered as a good enough candidate this go round to challenge Hill, she shouldn't try to oust the guy that just beat Hill.

I also think that the Bernie and Donald support this year shows that both parties should rethink, at least temporarily, how they decide who is next and the running of candidates because it's their turn is the wrong approach.  The public seems to be sick of it and ready for a new approach, imo.

It was her choice not to run, she wasn't banned or anything. Also you sort of contradicted yourself by mentioning Bernie, they are 100% in lock step on policy positions. She's a younger Bernie with polish.

I have zero doubt that bernie was run as fodder, just like that Webb guy, but that the party was surprised by his popularity.

Who is the entity that is making these choices about who runs?

[CNS]

Quick take is that if she couldn't be considered as a good enough candidate this go round to challenge Hill, she shouldn't try to oust the guy that just beat Hill.

I also think that the Bernie and Donald support this year shows that both parties should rethink, at least temporarily, how they decide who is next and the running of candidates because it's their turn is the wrong approach.  The public seems to be sick of it and ready for a new approach, imo.

It was her choice not to run, she wasn't banned or anything. Also you sort of contradicted yourself by mentioning Bernie, they are 100% in lock step on policy positions. She's a younger Bernie with polish.

I have zero doubt that bernie was run as fodder, just like that Webb guy, but that the party was surprised by his popularity.

Who is the entity that is making these choices about who runs?

The parties.  I mean, I am sure anyone can run, but I am also sure that there are discussions between the party and the party loyals as to who would be the best party candidate and that others are asked to put their support behind them rather than run against them.   That is pretty much commonly accepted.  We hear often during races that the parties try to influence certain challengers to drop out so that they can support other candidates during primaries. 

If you are suggesting that the party simply provides the frame work for candidates to work within and that there isn't preference shown to certain candidates at times, I think the dems were made clear as an example of that not being the case with Debbie this election.   

[sys]

She's a younger Bernie with polish.

she'll be 71 in 2020.  quick little hot take - our political parties need to stop running people that should be retired.

[Mrs. Gooch]

She's a younger Bernie with polish.

she'll be 71 in 2020.  quick little hot take - our political parties need to stop running people that should be retired.

Which is why I'm backing Tulsi.

[steve dave]

I'm going to vote for some moderate who doesn't suck complete crap and polarize everyone.

[star seed 7]

Like Obama?

[sonofdaxjones]

Like Obama?

I agree, if the war mongerites, Patriot Actites, the convoluted foreign policyites, less transparency not moreites, the racial dividites, the no budget at allites had just been a little patient, they would have seen their kinship with Obama straight out.
 

[Tobias]

i have no idea how dax does it but i am very grateful he knows how

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Elizabeth Warren is a female version of Bernie Sanders. Unlike Bernie, Elizabeth Warren is not Jewish - a plus for the secretly and sometimes not-so-secretly anti-Semitic Democrat base. Crazy people like MIR love Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren would be the first Native American nominee of a major party, and Dems love them some identity politics.

For all these reasons and more, she's definitely running in 2020. But I'm not going to start that thread for at least 2.5 years.

[MakeItRain]

Quick take is that if she couldn't be considered as a good enough candidate this go round to challenge Hill, she shouldn't try to oust the guy that just beat Hill.

I also think that the Bernie and Donald support this year shows that both parties should rethink, at least temporarily, how they decide who is next and the running of candidates because it's their turn is the wrong approach.  The public seems to be sick of it and ready for a new approach, imo.

It was her choice not to run, she wasn't banned or anything. Also you sort of contradicted yourself by mentioning Bernie, they are 100% in lock step on policy positions. She's a younger Bernie with polish.

I have zero doubt that bernie was run as fodder, just like that Webb guy, but that the party was surprised by his popularity.

Who is the entity that is making these choices about who runs?

The parties.  I mean, I am sure anyone can run, but I am also sure that there are discussions between the party and the party loyals as to who would be the best party candidate and that others are asked to put their support behind them rather than run against them.   That is pretty much commonly accepted.  We hear often during races that the parties try to influence certain challengers to drop out so that they can support other candidates during primaries. 

If you are suggesting that the party simply provides the frame work for candidates to work within and that there isn't preference shown to certain candidates at times, I think the dems were made clear as an example of that not being the case with Debbie this election.   

Sure the parties have people they want to run but that has little or nothing to do with who runs. Sanders, Webb, and O'Malley all battled with the DNC from the start. Obama and Bill Clinton were outsiders when they jumped in.

[Kat Kid]

Tulsi has some really strong Modi ties that are uncomfortable.  That dude literally leads ethnic cleansing riots.

[sonofdaxjones]

Elizabeth Warren is a female version of Bernie Sanders. Unlike Bernie, Elizabeth Warren is not Jewish - a plus for the secretly and sometimes not-so-secretly anti-Semitic Democrat base. Crazy people like MIR love Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren would be the first Native American nominee of a major party, and Dems love them some identity politics.

For all these reasons and more, she's definitely running in 2020. But I'm not going to start that thread for at least 2.5 years.

Agreed, can totally see Liz being the odds on favorite for the labeler party aka intolerant Prog-Lib Nation.

[SkinnyBenny]

Corey Booker or Tammy Duckworth. (President Duckworth sounds like a cartoon character imo, but whatevs.)

[MakeItRain]

Tulsi has some really strong Modi ties that are uncomfortable.  That dude literally leads ethnic cleansing riots.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/curious-islamophobic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard

Mrs. Gooch, we may have a problem. Our girl has three years to clean this up

[MakeItRain]

Corey Booker or Tammy Duckworth. (President Duckworth sounds like a cartoon character imo, but whatevs.)

Booker isn't happening, people have to get this through their heads. Black guys running for president have to be squeaky clean, Booker isn't, far from it. He also has enemies in the party.

Duckworth is interesting, she has done things that she'll get dragged for; not born in America, sued for bullying subordinates while working for Veteran's Affairs in Illinois, Blago was her boss incidentally. The interesting thing about that lawsuit is that it was settled and a part of the settlement was that she didn't have to admit wrongdoing. The plaintiffs accepted the settlement, then wanted it thrown out, judge said naw.

[mocat]

Tulsi has some really strong Modi ties that are uncomfortable.  That dude literally leads ethnic cleansing riots.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/curious-islamophobic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard

Mrs. Gooch, we may have a problem. Our girl has three years to clean this up

That article sort of glosses over her connection to that guy

[Mrs. Gooch]

Tulsi has some really strong Modi ties that are uncomfortable.  That dude literally leads ethnic cleansing riots.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/curious-islamophobic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard

Mrs. Gooch, we may have a problem. Our girl has three years to clean this up

  Back to the drawing board.

[CNS]

That article makes me think she will win in a landslide.  A right flanking dem who may hate muslims.  I mean, she would have  gotten the base, many moderates, and many independents in this election if running.  She would prob be pres elect right now.

[sonofdaxjones]

Why is the word, "pardon" even being brought up in regard HRCWP?   I thought she didn't do anything wrong. 

[ChiComCat]

Why is the word, "pardon" even being brought up in regard HRCWP?   I thought she didn't do anything wrong. 

I think just about everyone, including herself, has admitted that she did something wrong.

[renocat]

 Could you imagine being her cellmate?  She would cause a prison riot.  Bill is probably against a pardon.  I would laugh if the condition of the pardon was MG had to be Obama's maid and.fax retrieval assistant.

[420seriouscat69]

Wow

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[sonofdaxjones]

Wow

Probably enough stuff in her system to kill 3 normal people and a horse.

[star seed 7]

And she literally smells like sulfur!

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Wow