Author Topic: Hillary LOL (f/k/a Hillary Clinton Indictment Watch f/k/a Hillary 2016?) (Read 393411 times)

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **on:** April 10, 2014, 02:19:34 PM »

I almost certainly wouldn't vote for her, but to those who would, I'm genuinely curious: what do you consider to be her accomplishments?

Again, I'm genuinely interested in hearing some pro-Hillary opinions. I don't intend for this to be a food fight. Thanks, and I'll listen off the air.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #1 on:** April 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM »

How could anybody know if they would vote for Hillary without knowing who she is running against? This question is very premature.

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #2 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:08:56 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM

How could anybody know if they would vote for Hillary without knowing who she is running against? This question is very premature.

Many people for D or R no matter what.

EllRobersonisInnocent · « **Reply #3 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:11:10 PM »

I don't think she'll run due to her health.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:11:56 PM »

not sure why anyone would vote for a d or r, they are same party

EllRobersonisInnocent · « **Reply #5 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:25:16 PM »

#GaryJohnson2016

star seed 7 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:25:47 PM »

Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 10, 2014, 03:25:16 PM

#GaryJohnson2016

puniraptor · « **Reply #7 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:29:33 PM »

i will probably continue to cast my symbolic 3rd or 4th party vote to protest the status quo

star seed 7 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:30:20 PM »

Quote from: puniraptor on April 10, 2014, 03:29:33 PM

i will probably continue to cast my symbolic 3rd or 4th party vote to protest the status quo

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #9 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:36:36 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM

How could anybody know if they would vote for Hillary without knowing who she is running against? This question is very premature.

I'm just asking for perceived accomplishments. Let's not get all semantical here.

CNS · « **Reply #10 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:37:54 PM »

I would love a strong challenger against her. Doubt it happens. pretty sure she is going to win.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:38:08 PM »

i don't think this thread is going how k-s-u wanted it to

0.42 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:38:14 PM »

Quote from: puniraptor on April 10, 2014, 03:29:33 PM

i will probably continue to cast my symbolic 3rd or 4th party vote to protest the status quo

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:44:06 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 03:36:36 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
How could anybody know if they would vote for Hillary without knowing who she is running against? This question is very premature.

I'm just asking for perceived accomplishments. Let's not get all semantical here.

Well, she cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, was the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation, and was the first female partner at Rose Law Firm. She served on the Board of Directors at Walmart. She was a US senator for 8 years, and was Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2014, 03:58:53 PM »

Laura Bush would be better.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #15 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:01:56 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 03:44:06 PM

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
How could anybody know if they would vote for Hillary without knowing who she is running against? This question is very premature.

I'm just asking for perceived accomplishments. Let's not get all semantical here.

Well, she cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, was the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation, and was the first female partner at Rose Law Firm. She served on the Board of Directors at Walmart. She was a US senator for 8 years, and was Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

Huh. Seems like most of this had more to do with her husband being AG/Governor of Arkansas, and then POTUS. I'm more interested in stuff she's actually accomplished - not positions she was elected/appointed to. Like, what did she do well as SOS? I see she got a law degree from Yale and was an undergrad commencement speaker, so I'm thinking she's pretty intelligent - I'm just trying to figure out what she's got to run on besides holding a lot of positions and being The First Woman President.

EllRobersonisInnocent · « **Reply #16 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:03:13 PM »

Elizabeth Warren should be the first woman prez.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #17 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:04:15 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 04:01:56 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
How could anybody know if they would vote for Hillary without knowing who she is running against? This question is very premature.

I'm just asking for perceived accomplishments. Let's not get all semantical here.

Well, she cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, was the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation, and was the first female partner at Rose Law Firm. She served on the Board of Directors at Walmart. She was a US senator for 8 years, and was Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

Huh. Seems like most of this had more to do with her husband being AG/Governor of Arkansas, and then POTUS. I'm more interested in stuff she's actually accomplished - not positions she was elected/appointed to. Like, what did she do well as SOS? I see she got a law degree from Yale and was an undergrad commencement speaker, so I'm thinking she's pretty intelligent - I'm just trying to figure out what she's got to run on besides holding a lot of positions and being The First Woman President.

Yeah. Mary Brownback has a similar resume. All wives of people in power rise to similar heights, really.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:04:31 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 04:01:56 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
How could anybody know if they would vote for Hillary without knowing who she is running against? This question is very premature.

I'm just asking for perceived accomplishments. Let's not get all semantical here.

Well, she cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, was the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation, and was the first female partner at Rose Law Firm. She served on the Board of Directors at Walmart. She was a US senator for 8 years, and was Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

Huh. Seems like most of this had more to do with her husband being AG/Governor of Arkansas, and then POTUS. I'm more interested in stuff she's actually accomplished - not positions she was elected/appointed to. Like, what did she do well as SOS? I see she got a law degree from Yale and was an undergrad commencement speaker, so I'm thinking she's pretty intelligent - I'm just trying to figure out what she's got to run on besides holding a lot of positions and being The First Woman President.

how blue were your balls since you had to wait 16 posts to pull this out

ChiComCat · « **Reply #19 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:07:15 PM »

As far as past experience, I think Secretary of State and Senator from NY are both bigger than a lot of former Governors or business leaders who run. International diplomacy experience and national politics experience are both big pluses. What did she do in those positions? Tough to say but I can't think of another Senator from NY or Secretary of State that just blew my socks off either.

I know people that would vote for her because of the role they think Bill would play in administration, whether official or not. If your point is that she is the D frontrunner largely due to her husband, I don't know many that would argue with you. She is qualified regardless of her husband though.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #20 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:09:34 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 04:04:15 PM

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 04:01:56 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
How could anybody know if they would vote for Hillary without knowing who she is running against? This question is very premature.

I'm just asking for perceived accomplishments. Let's not get all semantical here.

Well, she cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, was the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation, and was the first female partner at Rose Law Firm. She served on the Board of Directors at Walmart. She was a US senator for 8 years, and was Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

Huh. Seems like most of this had more to do with her husband being AG/Governor of Arkansas, and then POTUS. I'm more interested in stuff she's actually accomplished - not positions she was elected/appointed to. Like, what did she do well as SOS? I see she got a law degree from Yale and was an undergrad commencement speaker, so I'm thinking she's pretty intelligent - I'm just trying to figure out what she's got to run on besides holding a lot of positions and being The First Woman President.

Yeah. Mary Brownback has a similar resume. All wives of people in power rise to similar heights, really.

Some people have more ambition for political power than others, and I'm certainly not questioning her ambition, but did you just compare Sam Brownback to Bill Clinton?

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #21 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:13:36 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 04:09:34 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 04:04:15 PM
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 04:01:56 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2014, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
How could anybody know if they would vote for Hillary without knowing who she is running against? This question is very premature.

I'm just asking for perceived accomplishments. Let's not get all semantical here.

Well, she cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, was the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation, and was the first female partner at Rose Law Firm. She served on the Board of Directors at Walmart. She was a US senator for 8 years, and was Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

Huh. Seems like most of this had more to do with her husband being AG/Governor of Arkansas, and then POTUS. I'm more interested in stuff she's actually accomplished - not positions she was elected/appointed to. Like, what did she do well as SOS? I see she got a law degree from Yale and was an undergrad commencement speaker, so I'm thinking she's pretty intelligent - I'm just trying to figure out what she's got to run on besides holding a lot of positions and being The First Woman President.

Yeah. Mary Brownback has a similar resume. All wives of people in power rise to similar heights, really.

Some people have more ambition for political power than others, and I'm certainly not questioning her ambition, but did you just compare Sam Brownback to Bill Clinton?

Mary's husband as been senator/governor of Kansas for quite some time now. I'm sure she's on the board at Koch Industries or something by now. How could she not be?

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #22 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:28:34 PM »

What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #23 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:33:58 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 04:28:34 PM

What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

Successful 2 term governor of the most populous state in America?

Quote from: puniraptor on April 10, 2014, 03:29:33 PM

i will probably continue to cast my symbolic 3rd or 4th party vote to protest the status quo

This is how Obama was elected - twice.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #24 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:36:34 PM »

Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 10, 2014, 04:33:58 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 04:28:34 PM
What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

Successful 2 term governor of the most populous state in America?

How different is that from being a two term senator of New York?