Hillary LOL (f/k/a Hillary Clinton Indictment Watch f/k/a Hillary 2016?)

[puniraptor]

i will probably continue to cast my symbolic 3rd or 4th party vote to protest the status quo

This is how Obama was elected - twice.

how many states that went blue would have gone red if the 3rd party votes went to mitt? probably none.

[CNS]

What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

Successful 2 term governor of the most populous state in America?

i will probably continue to cast my symbolic 3rd or 4th party vote to protest the status quo

This is how Obama was elected - twice.

The 'pubs need to get serious about weeding out the crazies so that their guy doesn't get crazy rubbed all over him before the gen elect'n.

[star seed 7]

i will probably continue to cast my symbolic 3rd or 4th party vote to protest the status quo

This is how Obama was elected - twice.

and W... and clinton...

[Rage Against the McKee]

What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

Successful 2 term governor of the most populous state in America?

i will probably continue to cast my symbolic 3rd or 4th party vote to protest the status quo

This is how Obama was elected - twice.

The 'pubs need to get serious about weeding out the crazies so that their guy doesn't get crazy rubbed all over him before the gen elect'n.

They just need a likeable candidate.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

'pubs really need to change their stance on marijuana if they want to win the POTUS election.

[puniraptor]

'pubs really need to change their stance on marijuana if they want to win the POTUS election.

they really need to iron out their stances on which freedoms they want to protect and which freedoms they want to destroy

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

Successful 2 term governor of the most populous state in America?

How different is that from being a two term senator of New York?

Seriously, you can't really even compare the two.  It would be like comparing a CEO (governor) to a sales manager (senator). Sales manager probably has more responsibilities than a senator, so probably not the best example.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

Successful 2 term governor of the most populous state in America?

How different is that from being a two term senator of New York?

Seriously, you can't really even compare the two.  It would be like comparing a CEO (governor) to a sales manager (senator). Sales manager probably has more responsibilities than a senator, so probably not the best example.

Being governor of a state, especially of a populous state, is far more important, and far better experience for POTUS, than being 1 out of 100 votes in the Senate. It's not really even close. As governor, not only are you the head of the executive branch, you also have to make hard decisions like balancing a budget. How many balanced budgets (or budgets at all, for that matter) have come out of the Senate recently?

In terms of getting elected as an accomplishment, I would also give Ronnie the edge there. He won in CA as a Republican. Of course, those were different times back then and he was at least a semi-famous b movie actor, but Hillary's path to that Senate seat was gold paved.

[star seed 7]

good ol' bill clinton was governor, and he was probably the best president of the last 300 years

[star seed 7]

sebelius got elected gov in red state kansas, guess maybe she should be president too

(would support)

[wetwillie]

good ol' bill clinton was governor, and he was probably the best president of the last 300 years

12th amendment makes it kind of tricky but I would definitely vote for a Clinton/Clinton ticket in 2016

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

good ol' bill clinton was governor, and he was probably the best president of the last 300 years

12th amendment makes it kind of tricky but I would definitely vote for a Clinton/Clinton ticket in 2016

Bill would love that. They could never travel together. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

good ol' bill clinton was governor, and he was probably the best president of the last 300 years

Where to begin with this...

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

sebelius got elected gov in red state kansas, guess maybe she should be president too

(would support)

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/11/us/politics/sebelius-resigning-as-health-secretary.html?_r=0&referrer=

You're the best, seven. Never stop.

[star seed 7]

sebelius got elected gov in red state kansas, guess maybe she should be president too

(would support)

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/11/us/politics/sebelius-resigning-as-health-secretary.html?_r=0&referrer=

You're the best, seven. Never stop.

that's actually what made me think of her today

[ChiComCat]

What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

Successful 2 term governor of the most populous state in America?

How different is that from being a two term senator of New York?

Seriously, you can't really even compare the two.  It would be like comparing a CEO (governor) to a sales manager (senator). Sales manager probably has more responsibilities than a senator, so probably not the best example.

Being governor of a state, especially of a populous state, is far more important, and far better experience for POTUS, than being 1 out of 100 votes in the Senate. It's not really even close. As governor, not only are you the head of the executive branch, you also have to make hard decisions like balancing a budget. How many balanced budgets (or budgets at all, for that matter) have come out of the Senate recently?

In terms of getting elected as an accomplishment, I would also give Ronnie the edge there. He won in CA as a Republican. Of course, those were different times back then and he was at least a semi-famous b movie actor, but Hillary's path to that Senate seat was gold paved.

Does Schwarzenegger winning kind of dampen your argument on how hard it is for an Repub actor to win in CA?

Honestly, I think both positions are really tough to win.  Both were probably won largely on name recognition and a lot of money (Schwarzenegger and Hillary that is, I don't know crap about how Reagan won).

[EMAWmeister]

 I really have no good reason, but I cannot stand Hilary Clinton.

[Headinjun]

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i will probably continue to cast my symbolic 3rd or 4th party vote to protest the status quo

 
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Did this last time.. Count me in.

I'm done with traditional parties and their people. 

I believe in ideas more than anything now.

[Headinjun]

What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

Successful 2 term governor of the most populous state in America?

How different is that from being a two term senator of New York?

Seriously, you can't really even compare the two.  It would be like comparing a CEO (governor) to a sales manager (senator). Sales manager probably has more responsibilities than a senator, so probably not the best example.

Being governor of a state, especially of a populous state, is far more important, and far better experience for POTUS, than being 1 out of 100 votes in the Senate. It's not really even close. As governor, not only are you the head of the executive branch, you also have to make hard decisions like balancing a budget. How many balanced budgets (or budgets at all, for that matter) have come out of the Senate recently?

In terms of getting elected as an accomplishment, I would also give Ronnie the edge there. He won in CA as a Republican. Of course, those were different times back then and he was at least a semi-famous b movie actor, but Hillary's path to that Senate seat was gold paved.

I'm willing to bet you never brought up the gold paths for W or silver one for his dad. 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

What were Ronald Reagan's accomplishments?

Successful 2 term governor of the most populous state in America?

How different is that from being a two term senator of New York?

Seriously, you can't really even compare the two.  It would be like comparing a CEO (governor) to a sales manager (senator). Sales manager probably has more responsibilities than a senator, so probably not the best example.

Being governor of a state, especially of a populous state, is far more important, and far better experience for POTUS, than being 1 out of 100 votes in the Senate. It's not really even close. As governor, not only are you the head of the executive branch, you also have to make hard decisions like balancing a budget. How many balanced budgets (or budgets at all, for that matter) have come out of the Senate recently?

In terms of getting elected as an accomplishment, I would also give Ronnie the edge there. He won in CA as a Republican. Of course, those were different times back then and he was at least a semi-famous b movie actor, but Hillary's path to that Senate seat was gold paved.

Does Schwarzenegger winning kind of dampen your argument on how hard it is for an Repub actor to win in CA?

Honestly, I think both positions are really tough to win.  Both were probably won largely on name recognition and a lot of money (Schwarzenegger and Hillary that is, I don't know crap about how Reagan won).

Arnold kind of won by default after Davis was recalled for rough ridin' up the state. It was anyone but another democrat, but ended up getting another democrat.

[Dugout DickStone]

Hillary is in an insanely strong position for 2016 but I hope that doesn't stay the case.  I do not want her to be the next pres.  Republicans need to find a candidate who isn't whacko stat.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Elizabeth Warren should be the first woman prez.

Probably the worst person on Earth

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Hillary is in an insanely strong position for 2016 but I hope that doesn't stay the case.  I do not want her to be the next pres.  Republicans need to find a candidate who isn't whacko stat.

The field still looks pretty thin right now, but I'm hoping for Scott Walker to make a serious run. He's the kind of guy we need to get out fiscal house in order.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Liz Warren is clinically insane, a bona fide lunatic. Whenever her name comes up as a potential presidential candidate I'm reminded at how rough ridin' off the farm nuts the left is. Find 5 minutes of her on YouTube that isn't completely nuts, not possible.  She is crazy on an ideological level, which is virtually impossible.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Liz Warren is clinically insane, a bona fide lunatic. Whenever her name comes up as a potential presidential candidate I'm reminded at how rough ridin' off the farm nuts the left is. Find 5 minutes of her on YouTube that isn't completely nuts, not possible.  She is crazy on an ideological level, which is virtually impossible.