Responsible gun owner protects personal property

[CNS]

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-uber-driver-fatally-shot-2efec12816a9a40934a6a7524e20e613

81 yr old dude gets phone scammed and decides to shoot the Uber driver the scammer sent to collect the money

I'm not a regular Uber user, how did this scammer manage to get an Uber driver to go to a residence to "pickup a package"?

I feel old as I ask myself, "Is this how Uber works?"

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Have you heard of DoorDash?

fair, i guess for those types of services i think the scope is limited to a few specific things. pick up (from a verified grocery store) and deliver my groceries. pick up (from a verified restaurant) and deliver my food. Do that dabble in the nebulous stuff like "hey go to this address and pick up this thing and deliver it to here" i mean i would guess 19 times out of 20 that is moving drugs

full disclosure, i rarely use these types of services and i am very uneducated in what all is allowed.

[catastrophe]

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-uber-driver-fatally-shot-2efec12816a9a40934a6a7524e20e613

81 yr old dude gets phone scammed and decides to shoot the Uber driver the scammer sent to collect the money

I'm not a regular Uber user, how did this scammer manage to get an Uber driver to go to a residence to "pickup a package"?

apparently the passenger can be a parcel and the drop off destination can be the post office or ups store etc. Not sure if that's a common use for uber but man, if i was an uber driver i would absolutely decline what appears to be running someone's errands.

I view being a private postman as more dignified than chauffer.

[Spracne]

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-uber-driver-fatally-shot-2efec12816a9a40934a6a7524e20e613

81 yr old dude gets phone scammed and decides to shoot the Uber driver the scammer sent to collect the money

I'm not a regular Uber user, how did this scammer manage to get an Uber driver to go to a residence to "pickup a package"?

Uber has something that used to be called Uber Connect but is called something else now (Package?). It's basically a courier service. I've used it before.

[Dugout DickStone]

Don't you need to have a name/address to deliver a package?

[CNS]

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-uber-driver-fatally-shot-2efec12816a9a40934a6a7524e20e613

81 yr old dude gets phone scammed and decides to shoot the Uber driver the scammer sent to collect the money

I'm not a regular Uber user, how did this scammer manage to get an Uber driver to go to a residence to "pickup a package"?

apparently the passenger can be a parcel and the drop off destination can be the post office or ups store etc. Not sure if that's a common use for uber but man, if i was an uber driver i would absolutely decline what appears to be running someone's errands.

I view being a private postman as more dignified than chauffer.

I used to send and receive tons of stuff weekly from local private couriers.  Think crap box cars, members only style jackets, mustache w no beard, no name cigs, and dirty hair.  This was 20 yrs ago.  These guys were trailblazers for the current version of cool.

[Spracne]

Don't you need to have a name/address to deliver a package?

Yes. It's all tracked, not anonymous.

[star seed 7]

Am I to believe that "Big apple" cat has never seen a bike messenger?

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Am I to believe that "Big apple" cat has never seen a bike messenger?

a guy on a fixie w/ a tube slung over his shoulder weaving in and out of traffic had not even crossed my mind.

[star seed 7]

Don't you need to have a name/address to deliver a package?

Yes. It's all tracked, not anonymous.

Unless you're a scammer and use stolen credit cards

[Spracne]

Don't you need to have a name/address to deliver a package?

Yes. It's all tracked, not anonymous.

Unless you're a scammer and use stolen credit cards

The pickup and drop-off locations are still required.

[Dugout DickStone]

Don't you need to have a name/address to deliver a package?

Yes. It's all tracked, not anonymous.

Unless you're a scammer and use stolen credit cards

yeah but how do I get my scammed money?  No uber driver is going to do a ransom drop under a park bench.

[wetwillie]

I would think Uber might bear some legal culpability on this front if their medium was used as a mechanism for fraud that got someone killed.

[Spracne]

I would think Uber might bear some legal culpability on this front if their medium was used as a mechanism for fraud that got someone killed.

You might think that ...

[star seed 7]

Don't you need to have a name/address to deliver a package?

Yes. It's all tracked, not anonymous.

Unless you're a scammer and use stolen credit cards

yeah but how do I get my scammed money?  No uber driver is going to do a ransom drop under a park bench.

You mail it or something, I dunno. My specialty is getting away with murder, not scamming.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

I would think Uber might bear some legal culpability on this front if their medium was used as a mechanism for fraud that got someone killed.

independent contractor, etc etc

[catastrophe]

That’s an awful lot of responsibility to put on couriers. I don’t even know how that would work for things like UPS.

[CNS]

I would think Uber might bear some legal culpability on this front if their medium was used as a mechanism for fraud that got someone killed.

You might think that ...

A couple years ago Uber came out and said they would no longer be allowing their drivers to drop off and pick up kids for school if parents weren't in the car.  I always assumed this was for similar reasons.  Makes me think that Uber this they may share culpability as well. 

[wetwillie]

Another thing that kind of shocks me is that this Uber driver lady couldn't talk the old man out of shooting her.  Like here is my phone and my wallet I'm going to sit on the ground here and you can call the cops and we will figure this whole thing out.

[Spracne]

Another thing that kind of shocks me is that this Uber driver lady couldn't talk the old man out of shooting her.  Like here is my phone and my wallet I'm going to sit on the ground here and you can call the cops and we will figure this whole thing out.

Sir (coming to me with tears in his eyes) ...

https://youtu.be/VYOjWnS4cMY?si=y3WQ_UtSoPrcOaTG

[Brock Landers]

No need to invent Uber for scams, because they actually just use Uber.

[star seed 7]

Old men with guns are terrified of everything

[Dugout DickStone]

I would think Uber might bear some legal culpability on this front if their medium was used as a mechanism for fraud that got someone killed.

You might think that ...

A couple years ago Uber came out and said they would no longer be allowing their drivers to drop off and pick up kids for school if parents weren't in the car.  I always assumed this was for similar reasons.  Makes me think that Uber this they may share culpability as well.

Not to go all lawyer here but how does a ride share app have any culpability for the old man's killing/embarrassed for getting grifted boner?

[wetwillie]

Do they get held legally responsible when one of the independent contractors commits a crime? Was thinking they have in the past but I could be wrong. In this instance it appears they don't know who their customer is and allowed their service to be used in pursuit of fraud that resulted in one of their independent contractors getting killed.

[catastrophe]

Do they get held legally responsible when one of the independent contractors commits a crime? Was thinking they have in the past but I could be wrong. In this instance it appears they don't know who their customer is and allowed their service to be used in pursuit of fraud that resulted in one of their independent contractors getting killed.

I don’t know how any specific lawsuits have worked out, but I know Uber has said it is a technology company, not a service company. Basically their platform exists to put in touch people who need something with people who are willing to do it for a price. So they’d argue their culpability is the same as Facebook or Match if someone murdered a person they met on there.

It makes some sense but there’s clearly a “come on” factor.