Responsible gun owner protects personal property

[Emo EMAW]

Who are you talking to?  Handy quote feared is handy.

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[Emo EMAW]

If Adams is charged with 1st degree murder for his role in the death, and that is the correct application of the law, then it seems patently obvious to me that the law is unjust

Why?  He planned to do something inherently dangerous and illegal.   Someone died as a result.   Why is he not responsible for his bad decisions? 

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This isn't the case of an innocent bystander accidentally getting killed in the crossfire. This is a bloodthirsty old man deciding to kill someone who was no longer threatening him and was running away.  I think killers should be charged with crimes for killing people and non-killers shouldn't.

Would have been in that situaish without the burglar tho.

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[8manpick]

So if you are getting robbed, and you want to make sure your attackers get life in prison instead of just a few years, make sure to murder one of the robbers as they are running away

[Emo EMAW]

So if you are getting robbed, and you want to make sure your attackers get life in prison instead of just a few years, make sure to murder one of the robbers as they are running away

Yes.  But you'll probably be doing time too. 

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[Emo EMAW]

IMO its best just to kill everyone in your house.  Still not preferable though.

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[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If Adams is charged with 1st degree murder for his role in the death, and that is the correct application of the law, then it seems patently obvious to me that the law is unjust

1st degree and felony murder are not the same guys.

[Emo EMAW]

If Adams is charged with 1st degree murder for his role in the death, and that is the correct application of the law, then it seems patently obvious to me that the law is unjust

1st degree and felony murder are not the same guys.

Depends on the state?  Guy here in KS was charged with first under the same application.


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[sys]

This is a bloodthirsty old man deciding to kill someone who was no longer threatening him and was running away.

i assume that if greer ever hires a lawyer competent enough to keep him away from random reporters in his driveway, that lawyer will try to argue something like that because greer believed this couple had broken into his house multiple times, and this time threw him to the ground and broke his shoulder, that he believed the only way he could be safe was to ensure that they would not return.

the fact that he's a feeble old man who comes across as something like a cross between elwood and getoffmylawn clint eastwood will probably play well with most juries.  the fact that he killed the woman instead of the man will not.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If Adams is charged with 1st degree murder for his role in the death, and that is the correct application of the law, then it seems patently obvious to me that the law is unjust

1st degree and felony murder are not the same guys.

Depends on the state?  Guy here in KS was charged with first under the same application.


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No. It may be sentenced as such, but, by definition, is not premeditated

[Emo EMAW]

If Adams is charged with 1st degree murder for his role in the death, and that is the correct application of the law, then it seems patently obvious to me that the law is unjust

1st degree and felony murder are not the same guys.

Depends on the state?  Guy here in KS was charged with first under the same application.


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No. It may be sentenced as such, but, by definition, is not premeditated

Maybe KS is different?

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article745507.html




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[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Kansas has both.

That article is atrocious.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think this guy should be charged with manslaughter just like people who fail to adequately lock up their guns and have them used in crimes should be charged.

[eastcat]

I think this guy should be charged with manslaughter just like people who fail to adequately lock up their guns and have them used in crimes should be charged.

I understand liberal thoughts are often rooted in emotion, but what is the glom of logic behind this?

Are you saying non-gun owners behave like a bunch of children so we must protect them from our own belongings?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think this guy should be charged with manslaughter just like people who fail to adequately lock up their guns and have them used in crimes should be charged.

I understand liberal thoughts are often rooted in emotion, but what is the glom of logic behind this?

Are you saying non-gun owners behave like a bunch of children so we must protect them from our own belongings?

In most cases, they are your children.

[eastcat]

I think this guy should be charged with manslaughter just like people who fail to adequately lock up their guns and have them used in crimes should be charged.

I understand liberal thoughts are often rooted in emotion, but what is the glom of logic behind this?

Are you saying non-gun owners behave like a bunch of children so we must protect them from our own belongings?

In most cases, they are your children.

I don't have any kids, I should be facing pretty good odds then right?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think this guy should be charged with manslaughter just like people who fail to adequately lock up their guns and have them used in crimes should be charged.

I understand liberal thoughts are often rooted in emotion, but what is the glom of logic behind this?

Are you saying non-gun owners behave like a bunch of children so we must protect them from our own belongings?

In most cases, they are your children.

I don't have any kids, I should be facing pretty good odds then right?

Yes, unless you just have really shitty friends. Seriously, though, lock your guns up.

[eastcat]

I think this guy should be charged with manslaughter just like people who fail to adequately lock up their guns and have them used in crimes should be charged.

I understand liberal thoughts are often rooted in emotion, but what is the glom of logic behind this?

Are you saying non-gun owners behave like a bunch of children so we must protect them from our own belongings?

In most cases, they are your children.

I don't have any kids, I should be facing pretty good odds then right?

Yes, unless you just have really shitty friends. Seriously, though, lock your guns up.

Or what dad?

I leave them unlocked so they can serve their purpose. Protecting my castle. Don't like it? DGAF.

[DQ12]

I mean...they robbed the guy in his home 3 times. 

[Dugout DickStone]

I mean...they robbed the guy in his home 3 times.

Are we sure it was them?

Fsd is right about felony murder vs 1st

[sys]

I mean...they robbed the guy in his home 3 times.

Are we sure it was them?

in terms of greer's upcoming legal issues, if he believed it was them, and can convince a jury of that, does it matter if it actually was or not?

[Dugout DickStone]

I mean...they robbed the guy in his home 3 times.

Are we sure it was them?

in terms of greer's upcoming legal issues, if he believed it was them, and can convince a jury of that, does it matter if it actually was or not?

Everything matters to some degree but it won't make a difference in this case.  That's an insanely slippery slope

[michigancat]

It's such an odd story that I think it raises some suspicion about Greer. But it would probably affect the investigation more than the trial. If it didn't lead to any new info in the investigation, it wouldn't affect the jury much IMO.

[Dugout DickStone]

He will do time.

[8manpick]

He will do time.

An effective life sentence most likely, given his age

[SdK]

Good. He should rot.