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New rules proposals…get rid of 15 yd penalty if targeting is overturned (good); force offenses to wait 10 seconds to snap ball (bad)


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that would be such a terrible rule
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would be horrible for basically everyone that enjoys football post 1990

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Awesome for us tho

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Awesome for us tho

Yes, should make it 30 seconds

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so if you complete a pass with 9 seconds and are trying to snap the ball to spike it you won't be able to with this new rule?

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Not unless you run short side option

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so if you complete a pass with 9 seconds and are trying to snap the ball to spike it you won't be able to with this new rule?

I assume it wouldn't apply in the last 2 minutes of the half and game

anyway, it likely won't pass because it's stupid
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Leach: "My suggestion is rather than spending a bunch of time coming up with a bunch of really stupid rules, spend that time coaching harder."

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Mike Leach: "That’s really insulting that they are hiding behind player safety just because somebody wants an advantage. That’s crazy."
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I imagine we could come up with some really neat rules proposals.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2014, 11:52:15 PM »
I imagine we could come up with some really neat rules proposals.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2014, 09:53:35 AM »
No more than 10 targets of any one receiver per game.

You can block in the back on kickoffs but not punt returns.

Lineman can move before the snap as long as they don't cross the line of scrimmage.

QB's have to personally attempt equal rushing plays as passing plays.

Karate kicks are acceptable tackles.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2014, 10:01:06 AM »
It would be a dumb rule, if teams want to play fast, then let them.

The real issue is the officials. They get caught up in fast paced games and its even worse in the Big 12 since the league added an additional official to just spot the ball. If officials were consistent in the methods/procedures they use for spotting the ball and getting into possession before they allow play to restart this wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal. However, they get caught up and often times they look like they are just running around crazy and often end up in poor position to make calls, see plays, and allow for substitutions (like they are supposed to already).

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2014, 10:16:50 AM »
Will they waive it when Saban wants to run hurry up like he did in the bowl game?

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2014, 10:25:08 AM »
If it helps the Cats, I love the rule.


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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2014, 10:25:48 AM »
10 seconds of game time? sounds like a great opportunity for waters to scream Omaha a few times before he throws it to lockett on the post route.
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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2014, 10:27:10 AM »
the Baylor ISU game would have only been like 45-7 with this rule.
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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2014, 10:32:46 AM »
If this rule goes into effect, it's unlikely that anyone will ever break the yards per game (614) Baylor put up last season, right _Fan?


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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2014, 10:35:28 AM »
They get caught up in fast paced games and its even worse in the Big 12 since the league added an additional official to just spot the ball.

Two things:

1) Leagues can just add/subtract officials at their whim?
2) Adding an official to spot the ball somehow makes the problems of fast play even worse?

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2014, 10:40:33 AM »
If it helps the Cats, I love the rule.

yeah, lots of rubes missing this.  this rule is great for us.   :billdance:

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2014, 10:41:55 AM »
They should increase the play clock to like 80 seconds

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2014, 10:46:26 AM »
They get caught up in fast paced games and its even worse in the Big 12 since the league added an additional official to just spot the ball.

Two things:

1) Leagues can just add/subtract officials at their whim?
2) Adding an official to spot the ball somehow makes the problems of fast play even worse?

1) I guess so.

2) I think they got even more caught up in the speed of the game because of the extra official, plus it changed the placement of officials.

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“The eighth official doesn’t impact us, because we’re going at the pace we chose to get at,” said Snyder, whose Wildcats don’t play a hurry-up style. “It impacts us defensively because … people are snapping the ball when officials have their backs turned to the ball trying to get out of the way.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/31/4590017/big-12-still-adjusting-to-eighth.html#storylink=cpy

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2014, 10:50:54 AM »
The Big12 added an official last year with a NCAA experimental waiver.  Not sure what's happening with in going forward.  The extra official was originally Bill's idea for an extra man to watch for substitution infractions and signal to hold the snap until the defense can match substitute.  From there into morphed into the extra official was just spotting the ball allowing other officials to watch substitutions.  Bill was not pleased.
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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2014, 11:04:39 AM »
The Big12 added an official last year with a NCAA experimental waiver.  Not sure what's happening with in going forward.  The extra official was originally Bill's idea for an extra man to watch for substitution infractions and signal to hold the snap until the defense can match substitute.  From there into morphed into the extra official was just spotting the ball allowing other officials to watch substitutions.  Bill was not pleased.

Yep, it turned out to work opposite that Bill thought. In Baylor and OSU games the officials just run around crazy trying to keep up. It gets ridiculous, I'm not saying they should intentionally slow the game down, but they have every right to pace the game in a way that the other officials can at least be in the correct position to make calls and allow for substitutions (which is also a rule), but most of the time that wasn't the case.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2014, 11:12:10 AM »
Refs are part of the field.  Game needs to ensure they are in place before snap just like down markers and other components of the field, imo.